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#1 User is offline   Kevin Sharp 

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Posted 17 July 2006 - 06:56 PM

I've done this before on version 7 - except now I can't remember how (after playing around w/ 8 for an hour).

I am trying to create a rolling credit list. The whole list is longer than any single frame in the production. I obviously need to string several frames together, each with a portion of the credits.

My question is: how do I do this w/o it looking sloppy as one frame ends and the credit is 1/2 way up the screen, then it disappears suddenly as the new frame starts??
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 10:30 AM

View PostKevin Sharp, on Jul 17 2006, 10:56 PM, said:

I've done this before on version 7 - except now I can't remember how (after playing around w/ 8 for an hour).

I am trying to create a rolling credit list. The whole list is longer than any single frame in the production. I obviously need to string several frames together, each with a portion of the credits.

My question is: how do I do this w/o it looking sloppy as one frame ends and the credit is 1/2 way up the screen, then it disappears suddenly as the new frame starts??

Why not just extend the duration of the frame (panel) untill the text has scrolled of the screen. I have not tried it in EMC 8 but thats how it works in EMC 7.5

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 12:28 PM

View Postmyguggi, on Jul 18 2006, 01:30 PM, said:

Why not just extend the duration of the frame (panel) untill the text has scrolled off the screen. I have not tried it in EMC 8 but thats how it works in EMC 7.5


Works the same way in V 8. What flavor of Creator do you have - essentials, suite or deluxe?

Just drag the credits text to the preview panel, delete what they have as an example and start typing away. If you have the deluxe, you can adjust to slow scroll; if you can't find that option in your flavor, just put in some blank lines. With a slow scroll, 15 lines took 20 seconds.

If you want the text to overlay your background, make sure the text track is showing and set the cursor to where you want the text to start Drag the credits text to the preview window. The text will actually be slightly below where you can see it so run the preview so that it moves on screen. Caution: Editing the text may drive you to drink but play around it does work. Delete as much as you can and then start typing using enter to go to the next line. If the credits end too early, they may move back onto the preview screen
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 03:53 PM

View Postsknis, on Jul 18 2006, 01:28 PM, said:

Works the same way in V 8. What flavor of Creator do you have - essentials, suite or deluxe?

Just drag the credits text to the preview panel, delete what they have as an example and start typing away. If you have the deluxe, you can adjust to slow scroll; if you can't find that option in your flavor, just put in some blank lines. With a slow scroll, 15 lines took 20 seconds.

If you want the text to overlay your background, make sure the text track is showing and set the cursor to where you want the text to start Drag the credits text to the preview window. The text will actually be slightly below where you can see it so run the preview so that it moves on screen. Caution: Editing the text may drive you to drink but play around it does work. Delete as much as you can and then start typing using enter to go to the next line. If the credits end too early, they may move back onto the preview screen



I have Suite. I added a long panel that could fit all the credits- my new problem is that once I type a certain amount of lines the program crashes (EVERY time I hit a certain point).
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 04:38 PM

View PostKevin Sharp, on Jul 18 2006, 06:53 PM, said:

I have Suite. I added a long panel that could fit all the credits- my new problem is that once I type a certain amount of lines the program crashes (EVERY time I hit a certain point).


Did you read your other thread?

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 05:26 PM

View Postgrandpabruce, on Jul 18 2006, 05:38 PM, said:

Did you read your other thread?

http://forums.suppor...?showtopic=7019



Yes, I read it. I understand the video card may not be ideal, but as I stated in the original post (this thread), I've made the credits work w/ version 7 running this same equipment. Does the upgrade really leave me out of luck?
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Posted 18 July 2006 - 06:09 PM

View PostKevin Sharp, on Jul 18 2006, 08:26 PM, said:

Yes, I read it. I understand the video card may not be ideal, but as I stated in the original post (this thread), I've made the credits work w/ version 7 running this same equipment. Does the upgrade really leave me out of luck?


It looks like it does, with respect to your video card. Version 8 depends on the video card far more than Version 7 and 7.5 did. I certainly don't have a top of the line card, but it uses all of the DirectX functions needed for EMC 8.

you can pick up an AGP card, really cheap. You should do it, and hopefully, you machine won't give you anymore grief.

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 06:57 PM

View PostKevin Sharp, on Jul 18 2006, 07:53 PM, said:

I have Suite. I added a long panel that could fit all the credits- my new problem is that once I type a certain amount of lines the program crashes (EVERY time I hit a certain point).


How many lines of text are you adding, perhaps there is a limit?

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 08:35 PM

I just pasted about 1100 characters from Notepad into a scrolling text block with no problems.

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 10:06 PM

View Postggrussell, on Jul 19 2006, 12:35 AM, said:

I just pasted about 1100 characters from Notepad into a scrolling text block with no problems.

Did you mean 1100 lines?
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 05:25 AM

No, I meant 1100 characters. I didn't count the lines. I reduced the font size so the screenshot would show a bunch of lines. An 'end of line' is just another ASCII character code.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 05:42 PM

Well, I definitely had less than 1100! Maybe I should try cutting & pasting (I was typing them in before). My latest strategy has been to break it up into a series of shorter panels, with the ending credit from panel #1 at the top of #2 and so forth.
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Posted 19 July 2006 - 07:32 PM

View PostKevin Sharp, on Jul 19 2006, 08:42 PM, said:

Well, I definitely had less than 1100! Maybe I should try cutting & pasting (I was typing them in before). My latest strategy has been to break it up into a series of shorter panels, with the ending credit from panel #1 at the top of #2 and so forth.


Did you pay any attention to the posts about your video card not cutting the mustard?
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 12:03 PM

View PostKevin Sharp, on Jul 18 2006, 03:53 PM, said:

I have Suite. I added a long panel that could fit all the credits- my new problem is that once I type a certain amount of lines the program crashes (EVERY time I hit a certain point).


Are you typing into the little popup text editor?

I had exactly the same problem. The crash came after less than 1000 characters. Every time. I solved it by not using the text editor, and simply typing into the preview screen. It is very slow and kludgey, but then, the text editor isn't a lot better. In the end, I was able to complete my credits that way.

(I also found that pasting in from Notepad didn't work too well, unless I did it just a few lines at a time.)

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 07:32 PM

View Postgrandpabruce, on Jul 19 2006, 08:32 PM, said:

Did you pay any attention to the posts about your video card not cutting the mustard?


Yes, I did pay attention. Unfortunately I'm stuck with this video card to finish this particular project.


View Poststarrigger, on Jul 24 2006, 01:03 PM, said:

Are you typing into the little popup text editor?

I had exactly the same problem. The crash came after less than 1000 characters. Every time. I solved it by not using the text editor, and simply typing into the preview screen. It is very slow and kludgey, but then, the text editor isn't a lot better. In the end, I was able to complete my credits that way.

(I also found that pasting in from Notepad didn't work too well, unless I did it just a few lines at a time.)


Thanks for the tip, but I already was typing in the preview screen when all the problems occurred.
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Posted 24 July 2006 - 08:09 PM

View PostKevin Sharp, on Jul 24 2006, 07:32 PM, said:

I already was typing in the preview screen when all the problems occurred.


I'm sorry to hear that. I strongly suspect that this is a genuine software bug (though my query to tech support a month ago went unanswered). I thought I'd found a reliable workaround.

But maybe the difference between your situation and mine is that there really is a hardware limit (video card? RAM? who knows?), and you reached the limit sooner.

If you really can't fix it another way, you might try this--it was going to be the next thing I tried. Create your credits in Windows Moviemaker, then save to an .avi file and import it into Videowave. (I personally find WMM better for creating rolling credits, anyway.)
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