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[Artefact]

The new version offers 7.1 authoring from PCM files but this is all we know.
Have tried asking Roxio support for details about file compatibilty but haven't received a answer.
Does anyone know what the spec is for DVDitProHD legal PCM files?

[MPPais]

Artefact, on 23 March 2011 - 04:44 AM, said:

The new version offers 7.1 authoring from PCM files but this is all we know.
Have tried asking Roxio support for details about file compatibilty but haven't received a answer.
Does anyone know what the spec is for DVDitProHD legal PCM files?

No!!!! I tried with several codecs without success.Sorry!!!!

[Artefact]

Okay so I would be happy to buy the upgrade if we had some tech spec from Roxio/Sonic but who's going to spend $200+ without this information?

[MPPais]

Artefact, on 24 March 2011 - 02:56 AM, said:

Okay so I would be happy to buy the upgrade if we had some tech spec from Roxio/Sonic but who's going to spend $200+ without this information?

You are 100% right!!!! You must send a new e-mail to Support explaining your exact position about update. Support is not good like you can see about complaints at forum. If will be an answer...all is ok! If not, do a seach about others software. I can say you that I don´t know others softwares who accept this audio format. Only very professional and expensives authoring softwares.

Please lok at: http://www.videoprod...-structure.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray

I did an experience with AVS Audio Converter http://www.avs4you.c...-Converter.aspx and I obtained PCM Bit Rate 1536kbps;Sampling Rate 96.0 kHz; Sample Size 16bit; Channels 8 (7.1) that was initial accepted. But...for DVD or Blu-ray was trancoded....I will do more experiences!

Edited by MPPais, 24 March 2011 - 02:31 PM.

[MPPais]

I tried with another authoring software and I have a conclusion: together Video+Audio must respect limit 40000kbps.So PCM audio (Sample rate(kHz) 96; Sample size (bits)16; Bit rate (Mbps)1.6) produce a very large file with high kbps.This situation oblige to use a smaller video quality. Indeed to obtain a very good image .ac3 file is more advisable.
About 4m video (24996Kb/s CBR) with PCM 7.1 (12228kb/s)  give me 1363MB. With audio .ac3 5.1normal 384kbps I obtain 936MB.

Edited by MPPais, 25 March 2011 - 03:21 PM.

[MPPais]

The above mentionated authoring software is not expensive and it has two possibilies: 1. accept a file PCM stereo and than transcode it to 7.1; 2. accept an encoded file PCM 7.1.

Edited by MPPais, 30 March 2011 - 11:56 AM.

[plee]

Here is what I got from Scott about 6.4 way back when...

6.4 updates the Sony CMF output to version .92 for better replicator compatibility, permits you to pass through Blu-ray Disc legal elementary AVC and VC-1 streams and Multi-channel WAV PCM.  It also includes support for dual layer BD-50 discs and masters.

[MPPais]

When we read the site we know the possibilities and features of DVDit! HD Pro. Indeed we are not able to obtain compliant Multi-channel WAV PCM 7.1. Please tell us how we can obtain these compliant files. With others authoring softwares I know the solution. With this DVDit! HD Pro (I have the last version...) I am blind. I will apreciate your answer.

Edited by MPPais, 08 April 2011 - 05:13 AM.

[rexdigital]

I have successfully gotten dvditpro to accept a 5.1 pcm .wav surround file.

It will even properly build the blu-ray folder and you can hear the sound when previewing prior to the build.

Once Built....it goes silent on playback from a blu-ray player.
There is obviously a problem during the build process.

The compliant PCM .wav files have to be 16-bit 48khz.  
Thats all, no bitrate need be stated as .pcm is not a vbr codec.

It simply doesn't work and thats a bummer.

Edited by rexdigital, 12 April 2011 - 02:41 PM.

[MPPais]

OK! Indeed I use another software to do Blu-ray authoring and I have not this problem about PCM or .ac3 audio files because it works always correctly doing a very good transcoding job when needed.Generally I export compliant files and ther's no need to do so. PCM audio produce a very heavy file and video can not have so good quality because we must respect legal bitrate..ac3 file is light so we can produce high quality video.According page 66 of DVDit! User's Guide PCM audio must be 96kHz. I tried several solutions to obtain a PCM audio file compliant with DVDit! HD Pro Blu-ray spectrum but till this moment I was not able to produce such file. Always I obtain an error message when I import the audio file.I am curious about a solution to DVDit! HD Pro but indeed this subject is not a real problem for me only an "academic" question....

Edited by MPPais, 13 April 2011 - 10:16 AM.

[rexdigital]

What other software are you using?  I do use tmpgenc authoring occasionally and
it doesn't have the problem, but sometimes it won't import the full movie.


I wonder if the writers of the user guide and help file didn't work together.
in the help file it states:

Note: For best results, use 48 kHz, 16-bit audio.


oh well, it shouldn't make any difference really, it still doesn't work.


I wouldn't worry about the high bit rate of pcm .wav files.

I've done many 90 minute movies with video encoding set for 20-35mbps and none of
them came close to filling a 25GB BD-R disk.

There is plenty of room for .pcm uncompressed audio (if it actually did work)
Most of the initial blu-ray movie releases were all pcm audio on single 25gb media.

Edited by rexdigital, 13 April 2011 - 10:32 AM.

[MPPais]

OK! We are in the same boat...but my Blu-ray are normally 1H45m. I edit 1920x1080 50 interlaced and I export 24 progressive 35.000 or 39.580M.I must have care to avoid BD-R DL who are expensives....
I only use DVDit! when I want to obtain Blu-ray and DVD with the same project.

Edited by MPPais, 13 April 2011 - 11:28 AM.

[rexdigital]

You can easily set that 35-39 to 20-30 and it will look the same and leave
plenty of room for pcm audio, if it worked.

[MPPais]

OK!!! It's a very good solution because Tmpgenc Authoring transcode easily to 7.1.

Edited by MPPais, 13 April 2011 - 03:50 PM.

[rexdigital]

I finally found something that works.

PCM 5.1 surround sound on a blu-ray disc.

It can be 16-bit or 24-bit.....both work!


The solution is:  Toast 10

Create your HD video stream
Create your pcm surround sound stream.

Go to create a blu-ray disc, import the video stream, toast notices
there is no audio, and asks for you to browse for the audio file.

Select it and go.  It works.

Only thing is, you can't set custom chapter points.

[MPPais]

Try trial version of TMPGEnc Authoring Works 4 and you will be surprised with all features inside it!It transcodes video and audio files to all legal spectrum DVD or Blu-ray (.ac3 5.1; wave 7.1 with many possible birates)!

Edited by MPPais, 22 May 2011 - 10:42 AM.

[rexdigital]

MPPais, on 22 May 2011 - 10:41 AM, said:

Try trial version of TMPGEnc Authoring Works 4 and you will be surprised with all features inside it!It transcodes video and audio files to all legal spectrum DVD or Blu-ray (.ac3 5.1; wave 7.1 with many possible birates)!

I own it, the problem is, it does not always recognize the full length of the video file.

[MPPais]

My Experience: IT WORKS GREAT!!!!!! But we need know all features including hidden...