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#1 dusty sweep

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 06:06 AM

I have 2 dvd players at home. One is a pioneer blue ray (but also plays standard dvd's). The other is a just your standard sony dvd player.

If I burn my movie  in the video setting using "High definition - DVD-video" it works in my pioneer blue ray player but will not work in my sony standard dvd player

If I then burn the same move in the video setting using "DVD-video" It will work in the sony standard dvd player but I loose a lot of the quality.

I am trying to burn movies that I can give out to friends but some of them have blue ray set top boxes and some just your standard dvd set top box.

I am burning it too dvd-r dvd's. What format do I need to burn them to that they can play in both and not loose the quality.

I am using the latest version of toast 11.

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 06:29 AM

A standard-definition video DVD does not look as good as a high-definition DVD and nothing can be done to change that reality. High-definition DVDs do not play on standard-definition players. That, too, is a given. If you don't want to lose any quality you can burn the videos as a data disc and tell your friends to play them on their computer rather than on their TV. If you do need to make a standard-definition video DVD for compatibility with regular DVD players, either choose Best with the Quality button or click Customize... and the Encoding tab and Custom button to enter the custom encoder settings window. Move the average bit rate to about 7 and the maximum to about 8.5. Check the Half-Pel box and make sure motion estimation is set to Best. Click Okay. When you are ready to burn the disc choose Save as Disc Image from the File menu. I suggest this because I don't know how long your movie is. With these settings it may not fit the DVD disc. By choosing Save as Disc Image you can take advantage of Roxio's Fit-to-DVD feature (if necessary) when you burn the disc image using the Image File setting in the Toast Copy window.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 12:47 PM

View Posttsantee, on 06 April 2011 - 06:29 AM, said:

A standard-definition video DVD does not look as good as a high-definition DVD and nothing can be done to change that reality. High-definition DVDs do not play on standard-definition players. That, too, is a given. If you don't want to lose any quality you can burn the videos as a data disc and tell your friends to play them on their computer rather than on their TV. If you do need to make a standard-definition video DVD for compatibility with regular DVD players, either choose Best with the Quality button or click Customize... and the Encoding tab and Custom button to enter the custom encoder settings window. Move the average bit rate to about 7 and the maximum to about 8.5. Check the Half-Pel box and make sure motion estimation is set to Best. Click Okay. When you are ready to burn the disc choose Save as Disc Image from the File menu. I suggest this because I don't know how long your movie is. With these settings it may not fit the DVD disc. By choosing Save as Disc Image you can take advantage of Roxio's Fit-to-DVD feature (if necessary) when you burn the disc image using the Image File setting in the Toast Copy window.

Thanks for that. I get the sd hd thing and the sd hd dvd thing. I need the movies to be hd.(no point to sd quality. Its just kills the effort that went into the making the movie.) They also need to be played on a dvd/ TV. I am not interested in playing them on a computer. Some of the movies that I have made are more than 5GB.  I have had a friend who has final cut burn a movie in hd (not blue ray) that I have made and it works in both my blue ray and my normal dvd play. Toast 11 does not seem to be able to do that. I am trying to make dvd's that can be played on various dvd players (just as you would buy a dvd from the store). Is this possible with toast 11

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 02:11 PM

View Postdusty sweep, on 06 April 2011 - 12:47 PM, said:

Thanks for that. I get the sd hd thing and the sd hd dvd thing. I need the movies to be hd.(no point to sd quality. Its just kills the effort that went into the making the movie.) They also need to be played on a dvd/ TV. I am not interested in playing them on a computer. Some of the movies that I have made are more than 5GB.  I have had a friend who has final cut burn a movie in hd (not blue ray) that I have made and it works in both my blue ray and my normal dvd play. Toast 11 does not seem to be able to do that. I am trying to make dvd's that can be played on various dvd players (just as you would buy a dvd from the store). Is this possible with toast 11
There are some DVD players that can play DivX video as well as video DVDs. A DivX video is an MPEG 4 format burned as a data disc. I'm unaware of those players being able to play a HD DivX video.

You are wanting to have HD video playing on DVD video and Blu-ray disc players without having the video in either the DVD video or Blu-ray formats. I don't have any advice for this. You may notice that the convert window has DivX Plus HD as an option. You could do a test exporting in that format and burning it as a DVD-Rom (UDF) disc in the Data window. What your friend has accomplished is beyond my knowledge.

Edited by tsantee, 06 April 2011 - 02:12 PM.

I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 06 April 2011 - 09:14 PM

View Posttsantee, on 06 April 2011 - 02:11 PM, said:

There are some DVD players that can play DivX video as well as video DVDs. A DivX video is an MPEG 4 format burned as a data disc. I'm unaware of those players being able to play a HD DivX video.

You are wanting to have HD video playing on DVD video and Blu-ray disc players without having the video in either the DVD video or Blu-ray formats. I don't have any advice for this. You may notice that the convert window has DivX Plus HD as an option. You could do a test exporting in that format and burning it as a DVD-Rom (UDF) disc in the Data window. What your friend has accomplished is beyond my knowledge.

Just had a look at the info on the dvd my friend burnt using final cut studio. Looks like the format is: MPEG-2 5.0 Mbps 2-pass.m2v  

This disk plays on my blue ray and normal dvd, with no lose in quality from the original. Also plays on my mac book pro.

The problem that I am having is that Toast titanium 10 or 11 does not allow you to choose the output that you would like. If I choose hd DVD-video the format that toast uses is MPEG-4 AVC, 8 Mbps. Is there anyway of changing the output format for the file you want to burn.

Thanks for you help this far. Maybe someone else may have and idea

Edited by dusty sweep, 06 April 2011 - 09:17 PM.


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Posted 06 April 2011 - 09:40 PM

View Postdusty sweep, on 06 April 2011 - 09:14 PM, said:

Just had a look at the info on the dvd my friend burnt using final cut studio. Looks like the format is: MPEG-2 5.0 Mbps 2-pass.m2v  

This disk plays on my blue ray and normal dvd, with no lose in quality from the original. Also plays on my mac book pro.

The problem that I am having is that Toast titanium 10 or 11 does not allow you to choose the output that you would like. If I choose hd DVD-video the format that toast uses is MPEG-4 AVC, 8 Mbps. Is there anyway of changing the output format for the file you want to burn.

Thanks for you help this far. Maybe someone else may have and idea
A 5 Mbps MPEG 2 file sounds like standard definition to me. How does Toast describe its resolution. Is it 720x480 or is it larger than that?

For a Blu-ray disc Toast lets you choose either MPEG 4 or MPEG 2 as the format. That is in the custom encoder settings window. Toast does not encode to MPEG 2 format unless you are authoring a video DVD or Blu-ray disc in the Video window.

I'm still scratching my head about how a standard DVD player can play a .m2v file that is not authored into a VIDEO_TS folder. Also, .m2v is video only. There needs to be an audio stream, too. Are you sure there isn't a VIDEO_TS folder on that disc?
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

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Posted 07 April 2011 - 02:59 AM

View Posttsantee, on 06 April 2011 - 09:40 PM, said:

A 5 Mbps MPEG 2 file sounds like standard definition to me. How does Toast describe its resolution. Is it 720x480 or is it larger than that?

For a Blu-ray disc Toast lets you choose either MPEG 4 or MPEG 2 as the format. That is in the custom encoder settings window. Toast does not encode to MPEG 2 format unless you are authoring a video DVD or Blu-ray disc in the Video window.

I'm still scratching my head about how a standard DVD player can play a .m2v file that is not authored into a VIDEO_TS folder. Also, .m2v is video only. There needs to be an audio stream, too. Are you sure there isn't a VIDEO_TS folder on that disc?

He has done the audio as a separate file.

I may get him to look at this thread and he can then shed some more light on the subject. He makes movies for a living so he knows what he is doing. Obviously I don't but  I am trying to learn




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