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[essexmaverick]

I did start this topic as a tag on to a previous problem, but thought it best to bring it in the correct area.

My issue is this.

When I am trying to import my movie stuff from my Hitachi camcorder, all it imports is the very first chapter, then just 694kb of each of the next chapters however big they might be.

This means I have to download the first chapter (which always come in fine), then disconnect the camcorder, manualy delete the file from it, plug it back in, then import the next chapter, so, so on. Very time consuming, and am sure there is something wrong somewhere.

I have loaded Roxio onto my base station, but the same issue occurs, telling me it must be a camcorder issue, but wondered if there was anything I was not doing?

I have no problem in previewing all the chapters with Roxio, I just can not import them all in one go .

Any ideas?

Camcorder is a Hitachi DZ-HS300E which came with Imagemixer3 as the capture software (no longer available on the support site).

[essexmaverick]

Best Answer

Still did not sort this, but i put it down to an error withn the camera, as I have just used another camera and everything downloaded just fine....also got my VHS - DVD working as well, thanks to the tip about using a switchable SCART adapter...very useful, many thanks all.
I tried using Videowave to convert to DVD mpeg but the same issue.

PS...will try the split and delete method in videowave tonight, but I can live with the bits i wanted to edit out...thanks for all the great advice and help.

Edited by essexmaverick, 31 May 2011 - 12:17 PM.

[sknis]

essexmaverick, on 21 May 2011 - 08:03 AM, said:

I did start this topic as a tag on to a previous problem, but thought it best to bring it in the correct area.

My issue is this.

When I am trying to import my movie stuff from my Hitachi camcorder, all it imports is the very first chapter, then just 694kb of each of the next chapters however big they might be.

This means I have to download the first chapter (which always come in fine), then disconnect the camcorder, manualy delete the file from it, plug it back in, then import the next chapter, so, so on. Very time consuming, and am sure there is something wrong somewhere.

I have loaded Roxio onto my base station, but the same issue occurs, telling me it must be a camcorder issue, but wondered if there was anything I was not doing?

I have no problem in previewing all the chapters with Roxio, I just can not import them all in one go .

Any ideas?

Camcorder is a Hitachi DZ-HS300E which came with Imagemixer3 as the capture software (no longer available on the support site).

Too bad you chose NOT to anser the questions in the other post and start all over.

Are you recording to the Hard drive or to a DVD.  If to a DVD, then you are recording with the wrong options.

You canget imagemixer 3  off the  web (Google is your friend).

[myguggi]

essexmaverick, on 21 May 2011 - 08:03 AM, said:

I did start this topic as a tag on to a previous problem, but thought it best to bring it in the correct area.

My issue is this.

When I am trying to import my movie stuff from my Hitachi camcorder, all it imports is the very first chapter, then just 694kb of each of the next chapters however big they might be.

This means I have to download the first chapter (which always come in fine), then disconnect the camcorder, manualy delete the file from it, plug it back in, then import the next chapter, so, so on. Very time consuming, and am sure there is something wrong somewhere.

I have loaded Roxio onto my base station, but the same issue occurs, telling me it must be a camcorder issue, but wondered if there was anything I was not doing?

I have no problem in previewing all the chapters with Roxio, I just can not import them all in one go .

Any ideas?

Camcorder is a Hitachi DZ-HS300E which came with Imagemixer3 as the capture software (no longer available on the support site).

I don't understand what you mean by chapters. Chapters are subdivisions of a movie and are not separate clips.

Why are you trying to capture from that camcorder? You recorded to the camcorders hard drive or to a DVD or ?
If yes then simply use Windows explorer to copy to your system hard drive. You do not need to fool around with any capture program.

[essexmaverick]

[IMG]http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll168/stsmaverick/cap1.jpg[/img]

sknis, on 21 May 2011 - 08:19 AM, said:

Too bad you chose NOT to anser the questions in the other post and start all over.

Sknis, I was not aware I had not answered any of the questions in my previous post. ?

*Edit* Have gone back to the old post and realised you there was a second page where there had been a request for information...but I had started this thread before you left the comments so did not revisit it.

I started this thread as I thought it would be the correct thing to do, and place it in the correct section. No reference to this issue was mentioned until my final post where I said i would move it to the correct thread.

I do try to give as much information as possible, when asked for so appologies.

Thank you for the link, I will investigate.

Myguggi, yes I recorded them direct to the Camcorder hard drive. I was not aware you could use explorer to copy these to the hard drive. When i opened this up in explorer, all i can see is two folders DVD_RTAV, & RTR_EXTN. In the first is a folder called VR_MOVIE.VRO which is 2.5gb, so I assume these are the clips - but not in a format I can use?

As I have declared, I am not very technically minded here, so you will have to assume I know little about these.

HOW is this camcorder connected to the PC? - via USB

WHAT capture settings are you using? - MPEG

Do a 10 sec cap. - How do I do this? I have no option to change the duration, could you please explain how I would do this?

Does it go into VideoWave OK? will try when I have accomplished above

screen shot of what I can see on my screen, hopefully this will help?

http://i288.photobuc...verick/cap1.jpg

Edited by essexmaverick, 22 May 2011 - 01:34 AM.

[Jim_Hardin]

Thanks! Getting a better ‘picture’ of things now      

I looked through the Camcorder Manual,  HERE, so my first question is if you are tranfering your movies from the camcorder's HDD or Mini DVD Disc?

You DO have your AC Power attached to the camcorder and are not trying to do this on its’ battery?

If the HDD, have you tried simply using Windows Explorer to Copy the files onto your PC? This is a screen cap of my camcorder and you can see it mounts as 2 drives (CANON (M:) & CANON (N:)) on my PC when attached with USB…


(mine is a little different structure since it is HD)

I do not normally use Roxio Media Import but rather stick to just Copy & Paste from Windows Explorer…

If you are working from you camcorder’s HDD, then give this a try to see how it works.

But if you are using a Mini DVD in your camcorder, we need to use a little different procedure  

Edited by Jim_Hardin, 22 May 2011 - 03:24 AM.

[sknis]

Are the movies on the DVD in your camera or the internal hard drive?  If the DVD, read your camcorder manual; you may have to finalize the disc to be able to use the files properly.  See your manual page 26, and 27.; page 80, pages 121, 123 at least.

Also from the manual:  

USING DISC IN DVD DRIVE BUILT INTO PC

If you have a PC with the drive conforming to the disc used, and the application software, you can directly insert the disc into the drive to use it.   (My Note: Don't worry about the software).

Whether a disc conforms to the DVD drive will depend on the DVD drive: Use a DVD drive that conforms to each disc.

Finalised DVD-RW/DVD-R/+RW can be used with DVD-ROM drive (reading only).

[essexmaverick]

I am not using the DVD disc facility, as I prefer to record direct to the camera hard drive.

I have the camera plugged into a direct power source, not using the battery.

I have tried to copy these direct but here is what I have when opened up in explorer

http://i288.photobuc...ick/import2.jpg



You will see also that aside from the very first chapter which is 24sec long (and works fine), all the following imports are 1s long (even though they are a lot longer on the origional) and are just 694kb.

http://i288.photobuc...ick/import3.jpg


Edit: added pics

Edited by Jim_Hardin, 22 May 2011 - 06:13 AM.

[Jim_Hardin]

So we don’t have to bounce all over the internet, HERE is a posting on how to post pictures on the forums  

Unrelated to your problem: I noticed that your Total Bitrate in picture 2 is lower than expected??? You should be doing all your recordings at an HQ setting.

Never had a HDD camcorder and I am a little bit stumped with this  

We know in troubleshooting, if you keep repeating the very same steps, you get the very same results  

Have you tried importing just the ‘Movie 1’ or ‘Movie 2’ and not selecting the individual chapters???

The Second Approach, working directly with the HDD in the camcorder… Your picture appears to be Exploring the DVD contents, and not the HDD???

[essexmaverick]

I have tried importing the movie complete - yes, here is where I am stumped too, as it takes around 23 minutes to import the whole thing, however - the result is the same, just 1 secons of each of the rest of the chapters. You watch it import, and everything seems to be working as it should until you view your import and see it is a fraction of the chapter.

Movie 1 also had chapters, but my camera has a merge facility, which I though would be the answer so i merged all the clips into one, thus negating the chapters of this movie...same result, it only imported the very first origional chapter...and again 1 sec of each of the others even though it was all merged.

With regards to the DVD/HDD, this is what comes up in Explorer...there is no DVD in the camcorder as i do not use them. I can not find anything else relating to the camera in Explorer.

[Jim_Hardin]

I did not read the whole manual... Does it have the ability to put a movie from the HDD onto a mini DVD RW?

That might be the way to go.

Then there would be the option to contact Hitachi and see if they have any suggestions

[essexmaverick]

Jim_Hardin, on 22 May 2011 - 10:49 AM, said:

I did not read the whole manual... Does it have the ability to put a movie from the HDD onto a mini DVD RW?

That might be the way to go.

Then there would be the option to contact Hitachi and see if they have any suggestions

I will have another read of the manual and see if that is possible.
Thanks for the advice Jim.

[Jim_Hardin]

Keep us informed as well as keep checking back here...

Weekends can be a little slow so it is likely someone with more experance, knowledge and good looks than I have may weigh in on this

[essexmaverick]

I will do that...here is another clue to pehaps what is wrong?

When I import them (using the painful process) they come is as a movie clip file type....which for some strange reason I am unable to edit in the trim window of video wave, i just get a black screen...now if I then save this as a new file ...but this time as a wmav. file, and then bring that one back into video wave, I can trim it as normal???

I prob made that sound more complicated than it need be...but i wondered if the two problems were connected in any way?

[myguggi]

essexmaverick, on 23 May 2011 - 09:45 AM, said:

I will do that...here is another clue to pehaps what is wrong?

When I import them (using the painful process) they come is as a movie clip file type....which for some strange reason I am unable to edit in the trim window of video wave, i just get a black screen...now if I then save this as a new file ...but this time as a wmav. file, and then bring that one back into video wave, I can trim it as normal???

I prob made that sound more complicated than it need be...but i wondered if the two problems were connected in any way?

Have you tried this?
1-copy the vro file to your hard drive using Windows Explorer
2-change the vro extension to mpg
3-add the renamed file in Videowave and try the Trim

If it doesn't work change the mpg extension back to vro.

Another option.
Download the free video play/convert utility VLC (www.videolan.org) and use it to convert the vro file to something useable in Videowave.

What kind of trimming are you trying to do in the video, ie. how much are you trying to remove from the start and/or end of the video?

Edited by myguggi, 23 May 2011 - 11:04 AM.

[essexmaverick]

well myguggi........that certainly got round the issue of importing!

Edited by essexmaverick, 24 May 2011 - 11:20 AM.

[essexmaverick]

This gets freakier by the minute...you guys will get sick of me real soon i am sure, but here goes...

If i play the now converted mpg file direct in media player it plays the whole thing no problem, ...however...if i load it into videowave it only plays 23secs of it then stops.

When watching it in media player, the progress bar along the bottom times out at 23 secs too....but it does keep playing....this is really bizzare,

Edited by essexmaverick, 24 May 2011 - 01:54 PM.

[myguggi]

essexmaverick, on 24 May 2011 - 11:17 AM, said:

well myguggi........that certainly got round the issue of importing!

What "got round the issue of importing"? You have to tell us what you did.

How about answering my other question regarding the trimming?

[essexmaverick]

myguggi, on 24 May 2011 - 12:02 PM, said:

What "got round the issue of importing"? You have to tell us what you did.

How about answering my other question regarding the trimming?

I was coming back to this with a full note but got a bit involved...

OK, your suggestion of copying from the camcorder to the desk top and renaming it worked a treat, this was my first problem solved. Now at least I had a file on my lap top to work with.

However, it would not trim, when I opened the file in the trim window I just got the black screen. To get round this i exported the file from video wave...it gave me the option to save file type as 'same as origional' but i changed this to the very last option of Windows media video 9 , 640x480 VBR which is what I have always used before.........I then used this new file in video wave and it works fine, I can trim it.

The issue I now have is probably linked to my camcorder, and nothing to do with roxio.
The file plays for the full length when played in media player (didnt time it but around 13 mins i think)...but only 23 seconds when trying to edit in videowave. I have also tried to edit in Movie maker, and Sony Vegas Pro 9 but the problem is the same...the timer stops at 23 seconds. The data file says it is 23 secs long as well...yet it is 1.6gb...the size of the full file when played in a media player.

I am trying to trim a chunk from the start, some bad cam work in the middle, and then splitting the end to another disc I want to burn, so all n all I really need to trim this quite a bit.
I can screen dump if you think it might help.

Edited by essexmaverick, 24 May 2011 - 01:56 PM.

[myguggi]

essexmaverick, on 24 May 2011 - 01:53 PM, said:

I was coming back to this with a full note but got a bit involved...

OK, your suggestion of copying from the camcorder to the desk top and renaming it worked a treat, this was my first problem solved. Now at least I had a file on my lap top to work with.

However, it would not trim, when I opened the file in the trim window I just got the black screen. To get round this i exported the file from video wave...it gave me the option to save file type as 'same as origional' but i changed this to the very last option of Windows media video 9 , 640x480 VBR which is what I have always used before.........I then used this new file in video wave and it works fine, I can trim it.

The issue I now have is probably linked to my camcorder, and nothing to do with roxio.
The file plays for the full length when played in media player (didnt time it but around 13 mins i think)...but only 23 seconds when trying to edit in videowave. I have also tried to edit in Movie maker, and Sony Vegas Pro 9 but the problem is the same...the timer stops at 23 seconds. The data file says it is 23 secs long as well...yet it is 1.6gb...the size of the full file when played in a media player.

I am trying to trim a chunk from the start, some bad cam work in the middle, and then splitting the end to another disc I want to burn, so all n all I really need to trim this quite a bit.
I can screen dump if you think it might help.

Obviously your camcorder is creating some strange video if Movie Maker and Sony Vegas have the same problems. It seems to be related to the "chapter" setting created by the camcorder (23 secs for the first chapter where each software package stops).

Have you tried using Videowave to convert to DVD mpeg, best quality. This is the format that is required for DVDs  if that is what you are eventually want to create.

Have you tried the split and delete method in Videowave? If you want to remove chunks from the middle (since you can't use trim there anyway, at least not directly) you will want to use that method anyway.