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#1 User is offline   mervace 

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Posted 06 August 2006 - 03:32 AM

I have just updated to EMC 8 Deluxe to capture from our new DV Camera. EMC8 is running on a clean XP with sp2 and recent installer updates needed to get Roxio to install properly as per recent posts here. I am running Pentium 4 CPU 3.00Ghz ,1.00G RAM Radion9200 card. Import is great as is edit,then when copied to DVD the pic Quality is poor Like a strobe effect on panning moving shots. I have expermented for days with a 10 minute video ,AVI or Mpeg capture. Video captured via analogue scource has been acceptable . DV capture to DVD via a Stand alone DVD Recorder is fine. Then after importing this to roxio to edit and burn, the resulting pic is the same as Roxio Dv Capture. I have tryed using EMC7 on another computer with similar results. I had hoped my hard ware was up to the job?? A DVD Burn using an OEM Pinnical Program which I don.t like produced Smooth pictures. I do not want to go back to Capture using Analogue because of the lip sync issues. I,m not sure how to proceed. I have always liked roxio 7 and these fourms. Any sugestions would be welcome. I capture in PAL and Burn to PAL DVD
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Posted 06 August 2006 - 04:39 AM

View Postmervace, on Aug 6 2006, 06:32 AM, said:

I have just updated to EMC 8 Deluxe to capture from our new DV Camera. EMC8 is running on a clean XP with sp2 and recent installer updates needed to get Roxio to install properly as per recent posts here. I am running Pentium 4 CPU 3.00Ghz ,1.00G RAM Radion9200 card. Import is great as is edit,then when copied to DVD the pic Quality is poor Like a strobe effect on panning moving shots. I have expermented for days with a 10 minute video ,AVI or Mpeg capture. Video captured via analogue scource has been acceptable . DV capture to DVD via a Stand alone DVD Recorder is fine. Then after importing this to roxio to edit and burn, the resulting pic is the same as Roxio Dv Capture. I have tryed using EMC7 on another computer with similar results. I had hoped my hard ware was up to the job?? A DVD Burn using an OEM Pinnical Program which I don.t like produced Smooth pictures. I do not want to go back to Capture using Analogue because of the lip sync issues. I,m not sure how to proceed. I have always liked roxio 7 and these fourms. Any sugestions would be welcome. I capture in PAL and Burn to PAL DVD


Most of the time people do not give enough information :huh: In your case, perhaps too much.. :) I'm having trouble understanding it. :D You are importing a video file, doing some editing (?) in video wave (?), taking it into MyDVD and then burning it. When you play it, there are strobe effects around some (?) of the pan and zoom. Do you see the effects on the DVD when you play it on your computer and on the stand alone? Since you "tryed", I assume you are out of the US and in an area that uses PAL.

Are you burning to an iso file and then copying the file to the DVD? If you are, open DisckCopier and then do a preview of the iso file. Do you see the strobe effect in the preview ?

Are the drivers for your video card up to date? How about DirectX 9c ?
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Posted 06 August 2006 - 06:47 AM

View Postsknis, on Aug 6 2006, 10:39 PM, said:

Most of the time people do not give enough information :huh: In your case, perhaps too much.. :) I'm having trouble understanding it. :D You are importing a video file, doing some editing (?) in video wave (?), taking it into MyDVD and then burning it. When you play it, there are strobe effects around some (?) of the pan and zoom. Do you see the effects on the DVD when you play it on your computer and on the stand alone? Since you "tryed", I assume you are out of the US and in an area that uses PAL.

Are you burning to an iso file and then copying the file to the DVD? If you are, open DisckCopier and then do a preview of the iso file. Do you see the strobe effect in the preview ?

Are the drivers for your video card up to date? How about DirectX 9c ?

Yep a lot of info as i have tryed a lot of things yes yes & yes To give you some more info Re paning. Its all of the pic in the final DVD as the camera pans around ,Vertical lines in the picture seem to process too slow giving the very noticeable effect like a strobe or like a slow frame refresh rate. It is noticable when played on computer too. I have just finished the Radeon driver updates which amazingly switched on 3D transitions in Video wave. Running the Graphics test also stays on Hardware! It was going to soft ware . I think I have got direct X 9C installed ( how can I prove this?) I will try the ISO File burn first then use Disc Copy. The Previews are excelent compaired to EMC7 and Editing AVI files and final render is very fast (with only a 10 min video) The latest test has still got the same strobing effect. I am sure with the help of this board I will solve the problem
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Posted 06 August 2006 - 07:53 AM

Update
I have created the ISO File.Then it is previewed in Disc Copier it looks perfect. Still the final DVD product is dreadful. I don,t think it is a pal ntsc issue but I must be close to a fix or I will revert to Analogue capture from my nice new DV Camera :)
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Posted 06 August 2006 - 07:58 AM

HOW TO SHOW WHAT VERSION DIRECTX IS RUNNING ON YOUR COMPUTER:

Go to START--enter DXDIAG-- on the screen that comes up near the bottom you will see a line showing what version of DirrectX you have. It should be version 9.0c. If it's not you can download it from Microsoft's web site.

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Posted 06 August 2006 - 08:02 AM

View Postmervace, on Aug 6 2006, 11:53 AM, said:

Update I have created the ISO File.Then it is previewed in Disc Copier it looks perfect.
What program are you using to view the final DVD? If you are using Windows Media Player, that isn't a very good test. The ONLY real test is to view the final DVD on a set top DVD player connected to a TV. If the ISO previews fine in Disc Copier, it's rather a puzzle that it wouldn't view fine on a TV.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 04:54 AM

Go Figure this Work around!!!! I installed my Winfast Tv analogue Capture card. After manually setting Audio Rec Levels etc,The S Video Capture (Mpeg2 Best Quality) was Perfect on final DVD disc. . I then Added the short Analogue capture with the short AVI Firewire capture (the one giving the original DVD problems) and :huh: a perfect DVD. the last experment was to once more burn the Firewire captured AVI file only, to DVD and the original symptoms returned. I am resigned to do furture captures Via SVHS. and hope Lipsync faults will be kept to a mininum. I would like to hear anyones thoughts on this work around. Perhaps my NEC Firewire card is poor quality(costing $30.00 AU) though it worked with the Pinnical Software. Or My entry level JVC camera is not up to the job Via DV (Firewire) capture.( though DV Capture to a stand alone DVD Recorder is perfect but with limited editing options ofcourse) Thanks to everyones suggestions so far I now have Direct X 9 and the latest Video Card drivers My system is running well with only 60 % CPU use during DVD creation. anyway upgrading from EMC7 to 8 did not solve the problem I do like 8s options though.
Perhaps its only me who after much trial and error gets a fix without really solving the problem :)
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 05:08 AM

Sounds rather odd. Personally, I've never had any problem capturing via firewire to DV AVI. Any chance that you have tried other tapes or other portions of the same tape? Seems like you keep referring to a specific AVI file which could have a problem.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 05:26 AM

View Postggrussell, on Aug 7 2006, 11:08 PM, said:

Sounds rather odd. Personally, I've never had any problem capturing via firewire to DV AVI. Any chance that you have tried other tapes or other portions of the same tape? Seems like you keep referring to a specific AVI file which could have a problem.

Yes I have tryed other parts of the tape and multiple short captures.The recording should be fine as it alays plays good, straight to TV. With careful inspection of the same scene in SVHS and DV capture the SVHS has better quality on the final edited DVD output. Ggrussell, Have you found EMC8 OK with Lipsync or do you have to capture short movies ? Thanks for your help sofar.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 06:27 AM

View Postmervace, on Aug 6 2006, 10:53 AM, said:

Update
I have created the ISO File.Then it is previewed in Disc Copier it looks perfect. Still the final DVD product is dreadful. I don,t think it is a pal ntsc issue but I must be close to a fix or I will revert to Analogue capture from my nice new DV Camera :)


If the iso file preview looks perfect, I would start looking at your burner and the DVD blanks you are using. There is no logical reason that the burned disc should be poorer quality than the original. How long is the production?

You might want to mount a virtual drive , copy that iso to that drive, and then use Cineplayer to watch it. That would separate out the actual burn and bad discs.from a bad encode.
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Posted 07 August 2006 - 07:32 AM

View Postsknis, on Aug 7 2006, 06:27 AM, said:

If the iso file preview looks perfect, I would start looking at your burner and the DVD blanks you are using. There is no logical reason that the burned disc should be poorer quality than the original. How long is the production?

You might want to mount a virtual drive , copy that iso to that drive, and then use Cineplayer to watch it. That would separate out the actual burn and bad discs.from a bad encode.


It sounds like I have a similar issue. I had Roxio DVD Creator from Roxio 6, things worked fine, and the final quality of the DVD (as played on my DVD player) was good. Then I installed EMC 8. Everything looks fine until I burn the DVD and play it on my DVD player. Now it looks like every other line is out of sync. When the picture is relatively still, straight lines have a very pronounced sawtooth pattern. Horizontal lines are even worse - they appear twice in the picture (for example, a light switch plate looks like it ends with a line on the top, then there's one line of the wall above the plate, and then a line above that that is the top of the plate again).

This is truly horrible - I'm ready to pitch this and go back to Roxio 6. I have tried this multiple times - encoding from scratch each time - and I saw the problem every time. Any ideas how to fix this?

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