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#1 Big_Dave

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Posted 08 September 2011 - 01:51 PM

I noticed that Cineplayer 2012 doesn't have Blu-Ray play back support for commercial Blu-Ray disks.

To get around this short coming I installed the Blu-Ray plug in for Cineplayer 2011 and then the April 2011 update and life is now good. :D   I don't know for how long.:unsure:
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 04:10 PM

There won't be (from what I've heard) a Blu-Ray playback plugin for 2012 but, as you found out, the one from Creator 2011 will install as a standalone app.
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Posted 08 September 2011 - 07:16 PM

View PostBig_Dave, on 08 September 2011 - 01:51 PM, said:

I noticed that Cineplayer 2012 doesn't have Blu-Ray play back support for commercial Blu-Ray disks.

To get around this short coming I installed the Blu-Ray plug in for Cineplayer 2011 and then the April 2011 update and life is now good. :D   I don't know for how long.:unsure:

Have a read of the following thread, Dave.  The answer is in Post #8.  It is a sad state of affairs.  :angry:

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Posted 09 September 2011 - 04:15 AM

Yes the 2011 Player plug-in works just fine!
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 12:58 PM

View PostJim_Hardin, on 09 September 2011 - 04:15 AM, said:

Yes the 2011 Player plug-in works just fine!

I'm looking at a possible upgrade from Roxio Creator 2009 to the 2012 version and am confused about the packaging. Both versions of 2012 claim to support Blu Ray on their web page if you go and look at the product descriptions. The Pro version adds the ability to burn Blu Rays and the standard version mentions Blu Ray, presumably playback only. There is also a "plug-in" version which costs $19.99. Looking at this thread, it makes me wonder what the real story is. If marketing has decided to drop Blu Ray support, they should not be misleading people by stating it is supported in Creator 2012. Dropping support for it seems counter intuitive. There are lots of Blu Rays out there and you don't have to buy them. Rental is an option or you might borrow them from a friend.

I'll be contacting Roxio to get the real story before deciding whether or not to upgrade.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 02:02 PM

View Postjimboden, on 24 September 2011 - 12:58 PM, said:

I'm looking at a possible upgrade from Roxio Creator 2009 to the 2012 version and am confused about the packaging. Both versions of 2012 claim to support Blu Ray on their web page if you go and look at the product descriptions. The Pro version adds the ability to burn Blu Rays and the standard version mentions Blu Ray, presumably playback only. There is also a "plug-in" version which costs $19.99. Looking at this thread, it makes me wonder what the real story is. If marketing has decided to drop Blu Ray support, they should not be misleading people by stating it is supported in Creator 2012. Dropping support for it seems counter intuitive. There are lots of Blu Rays out there and you don't have to buy them. Rental is an option or you might borrow them from a friend.

I'll be contacting Roxio to get the real story before deciding whether or not to upgrade.


C2012 Pro includes the Blu-ray author plugin C2012 doesn't and that is what costs $19.99.

C2010 and C2011 had a Blu-ray Play Back Plugin that Roxio choose not to have/support in this version.

You can ask Roxio why but my guess would be $$ that would have to be paid to the Blu-ray consortium!

Isn't it a wonderful and expensive format with all the DRM encryption key changes and updates that will never stop bringing the Blu-ray consortium $$... ;)
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Posted 24 September 2011 - 05:37 PM

View Postcdanteek, on 24 September 2011 - 02:02 PM, said:

C2012 Pro includes the Blu-ray author plugin C2012 doesn't and that is what costs $19.99.

C2010 and C2011 had a Blu-ray Play Back Plugin that Roxio choose not to have/support in this version.

You can ask Roxio why but my guess would be $$ that would have to be paid to the Blu-ray consortium!

Isn't it a wonderful and expensive format with all the DRM encryption key changes and updates that will never stop bringing the Blu-ray consortium $$... ;)

Thanks for the reply. I realize that 2012 Pro has what they call "authoring" Blu Ray support, which I take to mean you can burn Blu Rays. What I don't understand is whether or not the Blu Ray support in either the standard or pro versions actually will play a Blu Ray movie disc. The starter of this thread said that neither will play what he described as "commercial" Blu Ray discs. I assume commercial means any Blu Ray that you might buy or rent.

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Posted 24 September 2011 - 06:39 PM

View Postjimboden, on 24 September 2011 - 05:37 PM, said:

I assume commercial means any Blu Ray that you might buy or rent.

That's the case unfortunately. So long as the studios keep changing the encryption system, all software (computer) playback systems will have problems.

Think back to the Sony Celine Dion CD that actually locked up the CD tray
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Posted 25 September 2011 - 02:24 PM

View Postgi7omy, on 24 September 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

That's the case unfortunately. So long as the studios keep changing the encryption system, all software (computer) playback systems will have problems.

Think back to the Sony Celine Dion CD that actually locked up the CD tray


That only happened on a MAC. :)
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 05:12 AM

It happened on PCs as well Bruce but at least we could open the tray with a paperclip - the poor Mac users had to lug theirs to the service agents :lol:
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Posted 27 September 2011 - 05:18 AM

View Postgi7omy, on 27 September 2011 - 05:12 AM, said:

It happened on PCs as well Bruce but at least we could open the tray with a paperclip - the poor Mac users had to lug theirs to the service agents :lol:

Thanks, Daithi.  Yes, that is what I remember them saying about the poor Mac users.  I did not remember the problem being with the PCs, too.
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Posted 20 February 2012 - 09:02 PM

Why do I get the message that the cineplayer in my 2012 Pro has the ability to play Bluray but it won't?!

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 03:06 AM

List your PC specs - specifically your optical drives.

What BD are you trying to play?

What happens?

Any specific error message?
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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:10 AM

purchased the blu-ray plugin for the horribly expensive $21.83 in Wa state - computer crashed and I needed to reinstall plugin -
Digital River R says - tuff - it's past 30 days  - ARRGGHHHH!  
Of course it's more than 30 days from original download - but what other softwatre isn't yours -PERMANENTLY!

How can I find a source for this file - I am registed and have receipts w/ DR and it shows on the Roxio registered prods -  on line - dated june 4 2011 in DR.

Any help appreciated

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:41 AM

Contact Roxio  Customer Service on Monday and see if they can help you.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:55 PM

View Postbillretno, on 12 January 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

purchased the blu-ray plugin for the horribly expensive $21.83 in Wa state - computer crashed and I needed to reinstall plugin -
Digital River R says - tuff - it's past 30 days  - ARRGGHHHH!  
Of course it's more than 30 days from original download - but what other softwatre isn't yours -PERMANENTLY!

How can I find a source for this file - I am registed and have receipts w/ DR and it shows on the Roxio registered prods -  on line - dated june 4 2011 in DR.

Any help appreciated

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