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[the65gto]

New computer with emc8.05 installed.  Old computer with version 5 installed.  Tried to copy some of my data from Vr5 cd-rw disks to new machine and on two CDRW's and 2 CD-r's so far made them coasters.  Machine appears to hang with error #2002 (write error while making this disk comparable with other systems)  Cannot read disks, erase disk nor format, error msg said media damaged? (all 4 disks??)   Tried in both cd and DVD writers on new machine and old machine.  =COASTER!  On another attempt, copied music files on new computer and burned a cdr, was able to play music from the cdr, removed the cdr and placed it back in drive, all data gone.  I hate to install ver 5.0 back on my new machine.  Any help appreciated  TIA

[grandpabruce]

the65gto, on Jan 13 2006, 07:39 PM, said:

New computer with emc8.05 installed.  Old computer with version 5 installed.  Tried to copy some of my data from Vr5 cd-rw disks to new machine and on two CDRW's and 2 CD-r's so far made them coasters.  Machine appears to hang with error #2002 (write error while making this disk comparable with other systems)  Cannot read disks, erase disk nor format, error msg said media damaged? (all 4 disks??)   Tried in both cd and DVD writers on new machine and old machine.  =COASTER!  On another attempt, copied music files on new computer and burned a cdr, was able to play music from the cdr, removed the cdr and placed it back in drive, all data gone.  I hate to install ver 5.0 back on my new machine.  Any help appreciated  TIA

You didn't happen to use packet writing software to make those original disks, did you?

[the65gto]

I used Easy CD Creator Vr 5.  I believe that is 'packet writting" for the first 4 disks that I mentioned above.  The 5th disk was EMC8.05, blank new CD-R disk, that I copied the music on, chose eject to make compatable with other computers and that is the one that lost all data.  I now believe the problem came about because of the ejection method when EMC8 'fixed/trashed' the disk.  Any suggestions appreciated.  I have not yet understood the methods used to eject the disk, why is there a 1-4 minute time period to do that??  Version 5 just ejected the disk without all the fuss.

[grandpabruce]

the65gto, on Jan 14 2006, 03:46 PM, said:

I used Easy CD Creator Vr 5.  I believe that is 'packet writting" for the first 4 disks that I mentioned above.  The 5th disk was EMC8.05, blank new CD-R disk, that I copied the music on, chose eject to make compatable with other computers and that is the one that lost all data.  I now believe the problem came about because of the ejection method when EMC8 'fixed/trashed' the disk.  Any suggestions appreciated.  I have not yet understood the methods used to eject the disk, why is there a 1-4 minute time period to do that??  Version 5 just ejected the disk without all the fuss.

If you used Direct CD in version 5, to make those disks, you just learned a valuable lesson as to why not to use any packet writing software.  You may be able to recover some of the data with a program such as CD Roller, but you may have lost it all.

Use Creator Classic to do data disks/discs.  Use Music Disc Creator to make music CD's.  Never use Drag to Disc for anything.  Unfortunately, I think that you know why, now.  Packet writing software can be termed as unreliable, at best.

[cdanteek]

the65gto, on Jan 14 2006, 09:46 PM, said:

I used Easy CD Creator Vr 5.  I believe that is 'packet writting" for the first 4 disks that I mentioned above.  The 5th disk was EMC8.05, blank new CD-R disk, that I copied the music on, chose eject to make compatable with other computers and that is the one that lost all data.  I now believe the problem came about because of the ejection method when EMC8 'fixed/trashed' the disk.  Any suggestions appreciated.  I have not yet understood the methods used to eject the disk, why is there a 1-4 minute time period to do that??  Version 5 just ejected the disk without all the fuss.

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[the65gto]

Thanks for the info on 'iso buster', I will try it to see what happens.  Strangly, both my (new) cd-rw writters cannot 'see' the damaged disks.  However, one of my old DVD-rom readers can struggle with it for about 2-3 minutes and get the files up.  I immediately copied them to a temp holding place on my HDD.  I have experminted a little further mostly on a test basis, and found that if I check the box to 'leave alone' during ejection , I have not had any further instances of crashing the cd/dvd.      Short rant follows:  IF the packet writing is so bad, why does Roxio even support it or include it with this program.  rant ends

[grandpabruce]

the65gto, on Jan 21 2006, 07:25 PM, said:

Thanks for the info on 'iso buster', I will try it to see what happens.  Strangly, both my (new) cd-rw writters cannot 'see' the damaged disks.  However, one of my old DVD-rom readers can struggle with it for about 2-3 minutes and get the files up.  I immediately copied them to a temp holding place on my HDD.  I have experminted a little further mostly on a test basis, and found that if I check the box to 'leave alone' during ejection , I have not had any further instances of crashing the cd/dvd.      Short rant follows:  IF the packet writing is so bad, why does Roxio even support it or include it with this program.  rant ends

I don't know why they include it, but other software companies do it, too.  Once a person gets  burned, by using packet writing software, they usually learn their lesson and never use it again.  I was fortunate.  I  loaded it way back in the Platinum 5 days, saw that it took total control of my CD burner, uninstalled it, and never looked back.  Creator Classic is the way to go.

[cdanteek]

the65gto, on Jan 22 2006, 01:25 AM, said:

Thanks for the info on 'iso buster', I will try it to see what happens.  Strangly, both my (new) cd-rw writters cannot 'see' the damaged disks.  However, one of my old DVD-rom readers can struggle with it for about 2-3 minutes and get the files up.  I immediately copied them to a temp holding place on my HDD.  I have experminted a little further mostly on a test basis, and found that if I check the box to 'leave alone' during ejection , I have not had any further instances of crashing the cd/dvd.      Short rant follows:  IF the packet writing is so bad, why does Roxio even support it or include it with this program.  rant ends

Roxio is not alone Nero and InCD, and Sonic DLA I think a packet writing program is just as bad! It is the worst program you could install on your system. DVD+-R at $0.30 usa and 160GB hard drives at $69.00, if you want to drag and drop that's the way to go! Phase change media CDRW DVDRW is garbage and should never be trusted with anything that can't be replaced. Good question after 5 upgrades to easycd creator, the God's must think we want it!  But they decided to wipe out the old boards and replace it with a new powerfull search engine with few post's to search! It has been stated don't argue with them!


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[Larry]

the65gto, on Jan 21 2006, 07:25 PM, said:

Thanks for the info on 'iso buster', I will try it to see what happens. Strangly, both my (new) cd-rw writters cannot 'see' the damaged disks. However, one of my old DVD-rom readers can struggle with it for about 2-3 minutes and get the files up. I immediately copied them to a temp holding place on my HDD. I have experminted a little further mostly on a test basis, and found that if I check the box to 'leave alone' during ejection , I have not had any further instances of crashing the cd/dvd. Short rant follows: IF the packet writing is so bad, why does Roxio even support it or include it with this program. rant ends

Well, like the others also noted, because the competition has one. You can blame the ones (whover they were) who had this 'bright idea', back in the day when cd burning technology was just getting started. It was thought that they could make cd's behave like great big floppy disks. Of course, as most have found out once they have a bad experience with it, it was a bad idea. And now that it's gone this far, no one seems willing to just stop developing it.

[james_hardin]

lbissonette, on Jan 22 2006, 01:12 AM, said:

Well, like the others also noted, because the competition has one. You can blame the ones (whover they were) who had this 'bright idea', back in the day when cd burning technology was just getting started. It was thought that they could make cd's behave like great big floppy disks. Of course, as most have found out once they have a bad experience with it, it was a bad idea. And now that it's gone this far, no one seems willing to just stop developing it.

Packet Writing is what many if not most Backup Programs use! Some won't even work because they don't include one and rely on you having one installed.

I find it ironic that folks bash packet writers yet fully trust their backup program because they don't realize it uses packet writing…

My own opinion is that it is useful to transfer files from one PC to another when no other means of transfer exists.