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#1 phontonx

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:07 PM

I am using Videowave for my production. My production is in 16:9 format. My video file is created in 16:9 format. When I load my video into Videowave, it displays in 16:9 format. When I output my video, it is displayed 16:9 format, but my video itself is scrunched in 4:3 with black bars filling out the 16:9 format.

When I right click the video panel and select properties-->details tab of the video file I load in Videowave, it says it is 704x480, not 720x480. This is my only clue, but I don't know what to do. I am so frustrated with Roxio, anymore, I am seriously looking into another product.

Please help!

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:24 PM

Hi Scott,

I share your pain brother. I have encountered this problem every time I try to convert a 16:9 video and I've spent many frustrating hours trying to find a way around it. I will never buy Roxio again.

Sorry I couldn't help - at  least you know your not the only one having this problem.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:29 PM

View PostJon-D007, on 02 February 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Hi Scott,

I share your pain brother. I have encountered this problem every time I try to convert a 16:9 video and I've spent many frustrating hours trying to find a way around it. I will never buy Roxio again.

Sorry I couldn't help - at  least you know your not the only one having this problem.

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Convert 16:9 video to what? If you are trying to convert 16:9 to something then you have a completely different problem

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:33 PM

View Postmyguggi, on 02 February 2012 - 08:29 PM, said:

Convert 16:9 video to what? If you are trying to convert 16:9 to something then you have a completely different problem

I'm trying to convert a DVD chapter (16:9) into an MP4 (h.264) for web. As Scott described, it keeps adjusting the aspect to 4:3, even though I select 16:9 resolution.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 07:25 AM

View PostJon-D007, on 02 February 2012 - 08:33 PM, said:

I'm trying to convert a DVD chapter (16:9) into an MP4 (h.264) for web. As Scott described, it keeps adjusting the aspect to 4:3, even though I select 16:9 resolution.


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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:10 PM

View Postcdanteek, on 03 February 2012 - 07:25 AM, said:


It says 4:3, but that doesn't make sense, as I shot it in 16:9 and when that file is opened by itself, it displays widescreen. Is there anything I can do?

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:48 PM

View Postphontonx, on 03 February 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

It says 4:3, but that doesn't make sense, as I shot it in 16:9 and when that file is opened by itself, it displays widescreen. Is there anything I can do?

Could you post a 10-15 second clip to a website such as "UpForDown"  )or any other web hosting site) so that some of us can take a look at it?

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 04:30 PM

I really appreciate your fast help!

You should be able to download it here:
http://www.scottlytl...forDownload.htm

I am using a Panasonic SDR-S7 camcorder and I selected 16:9 aspect ratio for recording.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 05:08 PM

View Postphontonx, on 03 February 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

I really appreciate your fast help!

You should be able to download it here:
http://www.scottlytl...forDownload.htm

I am using a Panasonic SDR-S7 camcorder and I selected 16:9 aspect ratio for recording.

Sorry when I try to unzip the downloaded file it says that it is an invalid zip file.

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 05:31 PM

OK, not sure what happened.

Try this:
http://dl.dropbox.co...0203_191704.mpg

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 04:54 AM

View Postphontonx, on 03 February 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

OK, not sure what happened.

Try this:
http://dl.dropbox.co...0203_191704.mpg


3 frames is just not long enough but does show 4 by 3.

There was an issue capturing wide screen with certain Panasonic and JVC camocrders because they didn't set the 16 by 9 flag so Roxio could see it.   This was with earlier versions of Creator and Easy Media Creator.   The solution is to capture using a third party free capture program. The link to the discussion is here.

This issue should not be in Creator 2010 (where you posted).  You might want to try a capture with that third party capture to see if it sees the 16 by 9.

Note: Ar eyou using PAL or NTSC?  The video you posted is 704 by 480.  For 4 by 3 it should be 720 by 480.  -  That is just an aside and has nothing to do with the above.
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 08:05 AM

View Postphontonx, on 03 February 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Is there anything I can do?

I don't have 10 installed, but I just tried the file in VW9 and was able  to add it as an overlay and manually stretch it to 16:9. Maybe that can help get the project you are in the middle of finished anyway.
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 08:44 AM

View Postphontonx, on 03 February 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

It says 4:3, but that doesn't make sense, as I shot it in 16:9 and when that file is opened by itself, it displays widescreen. Is there anything I can do?

Where was the camera purchased?

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 09:02 AM

Jon D007 by thread jacking this thread,  you created some confusion on the responses.  This was Photonix thread and some people are replying to him and some are replying to you.  Please don't threadjack again to minimize confusion.

I recently had to read the small print on capturing HD-DVI files from a Canon comcorder via firewire.  Regardless of how I set the camcorder, I always got 1440 by 1080 video capture.  A friend reminded me that 1440 by 1080 is actually 4 by 3 ratio.  In Video Wave, they always came in as 1920 by 1080.:blink:

In looking at the manual, the text said that capture via fire wirs would always come in as 1080 (lines high) but never said anything about with 1440 or 1920 (width)

I'm not sure you are suffering a similar issue.

Photonix, can you simply take the memory card from that camcorder and put it into a reader on our computer?  What do you get.

As  cd said , if you are capturing as PAL, the ration should be 704 by 567.  Yours is:

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 09:49 AM

View Postsknis, on 04 February 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

Jon D007 by thread jacking this thread,  you created some confusion on the responses.  This was Photonix thread and some people are replying to him and some are replying to you.  Please don't threadjack again to minimize confusion.

I recently had to read the small print on capturing HD-DVI files from a Canon comcorder via firewire.  Regardless of how I set the camcorder, I always got 1440 by 1080 video capture.  A friend reminded me that 1440 by 1080 is actually 4 by 3 ratio.  In Video Wave, they always came in as 1920 by 1080.:blink:

In looking at the manual, the text said that capture via fire wirs would always come in as 1080 (lines high) but never said anything about with 1440 or 1920 (width)

I'm not sure you are suffering a similar issue.

Photonix, can you simply take the memory card from that camcorder and put it into a reader on our computer?  What do you get.

As  cd said , if you are capturing as PAL, the ration should be 704 by 567.  Yours is:

I think Photonix has the NTSC camcorder and the manual states a picture size of 704x480

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:25 AM

I am transferring from the SD card using the software that came with the camera, called SD Studio. Interestingly, I just downloaded the trial version of PowerDirector 10, inserted a clip from my video camera and then exported it to mpeg-2. The results were in widescreen format!

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 10:29 AM

View Postmyguggi, on 04 February 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

I think Photonix has the NTSC camcorder and the manual states a picture size of 704x480


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Posted 04 February 2012 - 11:45 AM

I believe I bought it at best buy. It is probably 3-4 years old.

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 11:48 AM

View Postphontonx, on 04 February 2012 - 11:45 AM, said:

I believe I bought it at best buy. It is probably 3-4 years old.

Best Buy USA?

Des your manual page #30 read like the pic I posted 625 lines 50 field Pal?
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Posted 04 February 2012 - 12:04 PM

View Postphontonx, on 04 February 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

I am transferring from the SD card using the software that came with the camera, called SD Studio. Interestingly, I just downloaded the trial version of PowerDirector 10, inserted a clip from my video camera and then exported it to mpeg-2. The results were in widescreen format!

According to the Motion Studio PDF, there are 2 settings to output mpeg2 files:

One is 16:9 (Use with Motion SD Studio) and "may not be displayed correctly on other editing software"

AND

a 16:9 (Use with other software) which they say, should be compatible with other software, but not MotionSD.

Did you choose the second 16:9 option?


Also, isn't Power Director 10 newer software than Roxio Creator 10 2010 (a couple years old?)? The file loads OK in C2012 VW, except for those few missing pixels on either side, but the aspect ratio would be off due to the odd 704px width.

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