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[neophyte7]

Hi Everyone

I am in the process of converting music recorded on VHS tape to digital files with the Sound Editor accompanying Easy VHS to DVD.  When I am in the process of copying, I can hear two distinct renditions of it, one just slightly behind the other, which creates a very annoying echo.  When I play the digital file the echo is totally absent, but hearing it while in the copying process itself makes it rather difficult to pick spots to start and stop the recordings.

Does anyone know of any way  I prevent this from happening?  Many thanks in anticipation.

[Jim_Hardin]

I thought we had laid this to rest in your other Topic (HERE)

Describe, in detail, how you are wired to your PC...

Do you have a Microphone? if yes, DISABLE it!

Also try a short test using the Video Capture... Is the 'echo' present when you capture that way???

[neophyte7]

Jim_Hardin, on 08 February 2012 - 04:48 AM, said:

I thought we had laid this to rest in your other Topic (HERE)

Describe, in detail, how you are wired to your PC...

Do you have a Microphone? if yes, DISABLE it!

Also try a short test using the Video Capture... Is the 'echo' present when you capture that way???

Hi Jim...No...my last posting concerned silence when recording music from VHS tapes to Wave or MP3 files and I finally realized that both wav and mp3 files had limits to how much they could contain before they just kakked out. :-))  

THIS post has to do with the sound of an echo while recording (capturing) audio from those same VHS tapes that have ONLY audio on them in the form of great music that I collected over the years.  It actually sounds to me as if I'm hearing the sound of both the VHS tape in the VCR and also the mp3 file that is being recorded, and it seems that one lags behind the other, thus creating an echo sound.  To be honest, I don't recall that being a problem when I first began recording these tapes.  It seems to me that the lag has gradually increased over the last few days to the point where it is now VERY audible, and annoying.

I did the video capture test that you requested, and heard no echo at all in that  test.

My set up is as demonstrated in the Roxio set up instructions.   The Roxio capture device inserted into a USB port on my computer, then it connected to the back of the VCR with the connecting cable they supply.  For audio, I only have the audio red and white cables connected.

I also tried recording the music from the VHS tapes via the video capture, but the end product is an mpeg file...NOT an mp3 audio file, and so that is not a solution.

Thanks so much Jim for your time and trouble trying to help me with these arcane problems I seem to encounter.  Any help is very much appreciated.  Oh...and NO...I have NO microphone connected at all.  :-)

Reg

[Jim_Hardin]

neophyte7, on 08 February 2012 - 07:12 AM, said:

Hi Jim...No...my last posting concerned silence when recording music from VHS tapes to Wave or MP3 files and I finally realized that both wav and mp3 files had limits to how much they could contain before they just kakked out. :-))  

THIS post has to do with the sound of an echo while recording (capturing) audio from those same VHS tapes that have ONLY audio on them in the form of great music that I collected over the years.  It actually sounds to me as if I'm hearing the sound of both the VHS tape in the VCR and also the mp3 file that is being recorded, and it seems that one lags behind the other, thus creating an echo sound.  To be honest, I don't recall that being a problem when I first began recording these tapes.  It seems to me that the lag has gradually increased over the last few days to the point where it is now VERY audible, and annoying.

I did the video capture test that you requested, and heard no echo at all in that  test.

My set up is as demonstrated in the Roxio set up instructions.   The Roxio capture device inserted into a USB port on my computer, then it connected to the back of the VCR with the connecting cable they supply.  For audio, I only have the audio red and white cables connected.

I also tried recording the music from the VHS tapes via the video capture, but the end product is an mpeg file...NOT an mp3 audio file, and so that is not a solution.

Thanks so much Jim for your time and trouble trying to help me with these arcane problems I seem to encounter.  Any help is very much appreciated.  Oh...and NO...I have NO microphone connected at all.  :-)

Reg

I know it was a different problem, I just meant that I was hoping it all over then  

Don't be so sure about that... It is part of a 'solution', on the back burner for now

I can't say I have ever tried to capture audio from a VHS tape, so I want to TRY it for myself too!

You didn't tell me about the Mic I asked about

[neophyte7]

LOL< yes I did Jim...read the LAST line again!

Reg

[Jim_Hardin]

neophyte7, on 08 February 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

LOL< yes I did Jim...read the LAST line again!

Reg

Drat!!! I missed that

[neophyte7]

Well...on thinking about things, and especially the fact that the echoing seemed to be a progressive thing (the two renditions becoming farther apart each time I used the program, and that I hadn't noticed it at all when I first began using the program) I decided to try UNinstalling the program totally, then REinstalling it...for a "fresh" start.

(   Nope!   That didnt work either!  

I"m back to square one again.  Still very happy to hear any solutions anyone might have.  Too back Roxio won't let me phone them to see what they say about it.

Reg

[Jim_Hardin]

Of course my VCR has decided to play dead...

I also have to run out for a 4 day weekend (class) so maybe one of the other Guru's can help you out with this...

My ONE alternative would be to capture as Video, then use an extraction program to extract the Audio from the mpeg file.

I don't think Sound Editor will do this, but I am sure you can search and find one that will, probably for free

FYI: in the early days of computing (80's) there was a proposal to use VCR's as a storage media for computers   Actually it was done a little and was a great improvement over the capacity of Audio Tapes!

Lucky for us HDD's came along about that time - My first was a whooping 10 MB Atari HDD which I partitioned into 2, 5 MB drives so I could run Atari or MSDOS

These were not, the good old days

Edited by Jim_Hardin, 09 February 2012 - 12:59 PM.

[neophyte7]

Jim_Hardin, on 09 February 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

Of course my VCR has decided to play dead...

I also have to run out for a 4 day weekend (class) so maybe one of the other Guru's can help you out with this...

My ONE alternative would be to capture as Video, then use an extraction program to extract the Audio from the mpeg file.

I don't think Sound Editor will do this, but I am sure you can search and find one that will, probably for free

FYI: in the early days of computing (80's) there was a proposal to use VCR's as a storage media for computers   Actually it was done a little and was a great improvement over the capacity of Audio Tapes!

Lucky for us HDD's came along about that time - My first was a whooping 10 MB Atari HDD which I partitioned into 2, 5 MB drives so I could run Atari or MSDOS

These were not, the good old days

Laughing....yup, the "good old days".  They're easy to remember....there weren't too many of 'em!

[neophyte7]

neophyte7, on 09 February 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Laughing....yup, the "good old days".  They're easy to remember....there weren't too many of 'em!

P.S.  I discovered how excellent VHS tapes were for recording and preserving music back in the days when cassette players first came out.  With a normal "120 VHS tape, you could use it at slowest speed (extended play) and record 6 hours of music, IN THE FINEST HI FIDELITY QUALITY POSSIBLE, which far exceeded what you could do recording on a cassette player.  Unfortunately, you can't buy a VCR player these days, and they were subject to parts wearing out and drying out so that eventually, it would "eat" your tape.  I'm hoping to avoid this eventuality by converting to digital.  :-)