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#1 g5 kidd

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 01:08 PM

hi im new to toast and was just wondering wats the best way 2 burn a avi file 2 dvd to get the best quality
ive including a link to the information i get in quictkime in the show info menu any help would be much apprecited

http://img130.imagev...2_122_362lo.jpg

thanx in advance

im using single layer discs if that helps

ive tried the automatic encoding option and the results werent that great

any ideas ?

Edited by g5 kidd, 17 August 2006 - 01:11 PM.


#2 tsantee

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 08:33 PM

The problem is that the resolution of your AVI is 528x218 which is substantially less than the 720x480 NTSC or 720x576 PAL full DVD resolution. When Toast re-encodes the AVI it is having to interpolate the additional pixels which creates a softening of the image. Basically what you have is source video that is not suitable for reasonable quality video DVD.
I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

#3 g5 kidd

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:28 AM

so if i was to change the vid using quicktime pro to 720x576 in the show movie properties menu would that improve the quality ?

also wat resolution is it best for me to use being that im in the uk and we use pal(720x576) but im looking to get the best quality possible  does ntsc (720x480) offer ant benifits over pal

Edited by g5 kidd, 19 August 2006 - 12:35 AM.


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Posted 19 August 2006 - 08:14 AM

View Postg5 kidd, on Aug 19 2006, 01:28 AM, said:

so if i was to change the vid using quicktime pro to 720x576 in the show movie properties menu would that improve the quality ?

also wat resolution is it best for me to use being that im in the uk and we use pal(720x576) but im looking to get the best quality possible  does ntsc (720x480) offer ant benifits over pal
Stick with PAL if possible.

Here are the PAL video DVD specs:
720 x 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called Full-D1)
704 x 576 pixels MPEG2
352 x 576 pixels MPEG2 (Called Half-D1, same as the CVD Standard)
352 x 288 pixels MPEG2
352 x 288 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
25 fps*
16:9 Anamorphic (only supported by 720x576)

Toast's PAL encoder is limited to 720x576. To encode at one of the lower resolutions you'd need to use different MPEG encoding software. As for using a different application to upscale the resolution of your AVI, the problem remains the same. The software has to invent (interpolate) the additional pixels. This means making a guess that the missing pixel is an average of the ones surrounding it. This makes edges soft. With your video there would be more invented pixels than defined ones.

With a different MPEG encoder you could choose one of the lower resolutions in the above list. Toast will use those MPEGs without re-encoding to burn your video DVD. Check the Mac forum at videohelp.com for information about using other encoders.

Something you might look into is DivX. If your AVI is DivX then you can burn it directly to CD-R (see Toast Help) and play it on a DivX-capable DVD player (these are cheap). There would be no need for re-encoding in that case and the DivX circuitry makes the picture look much better than if it is re-encoded to full resolution.

Edited by tsantee, 19 August 2006 - 08:15 AM.

I'm just a fellow Toast-user so please don't blame Roxio for any misguidance I may provide. And do let me know if your issue gets solved. Cheers from Eugene, Oregon!

#5 nolemming

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 01:21 AM

View Postg5 kidd, on Aug 17 2006, 02:08 PM, said:

hi im new to toast and was just wondering wats the best way 2 burn a avi file 2 dvd to get the best quality
ive including a link to the information i get in quictkime in the show info menu any help would be much apprecited

http://img130.imagev...2_122_362lo.jpg

thanx in advance

im using single layer discs if that helps

ive tried the automatic encoding option and the results werent that great

any ideas ?

Try it anyway. You might be satisfied with the results.

#6 g5 kidd

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 11:34 PM

View Postnolemming, on Aug 21 2006, 01:21 AM, said:

Try it anyway. You might be satisfied with the results.

try what anyway ?

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 11:53 PM

View Postg5 kidd, on Aug 22 2006, 12:34 AM, said:

try what anyway ?

Oops. Sorry about that. Somehow I deleted part of my response when I posted it. I was suggesting that you might want to try ffmpegX. Use the DVD (ffmpeg) setting with the "High Quality" and "Decode with Quicktime" options enabled. Then burn the Video_TS folder it creates. ffmpegX produces better quality mpegs compared to Toast. I love Toast, but you can often see vertical lines in the mpeg-2 files produced from DivX or Xvid avis.

You can download it here:
http://homepage.mac.com/major4/

Edited by nolemming, 21 August 2006 - 11:53 PM.





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