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Hdmi To Dvi Problems

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Hi. I'm pretty new to all this so it might just be me...but... I just got the hd pro capture card today and I hooked it all up using only hdmi cables. Xbox > HDMI > Capture card > HDMI/DVI cable so that it can be used in my PC monitor (no hdmi input - just DVI). I have always just used xbox > HDMI/DVI cable > PC Monitor and it works perfectly. Once I put the capture card in, the screen is all red and no amount of changing the xbox settings and/or monitor settings is fixing it? It appears perfectly on my capture preview on my other pc screen (except for a little lag) so I don't know what is happening? Any suggestions? I've spent ages trying to work out what I'm doing wrong.

 

Thanks.

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Heisenberg    0

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Sorry I should clarify "all red". The screen is actually a red tone (i.e. no colour) but the sharpness of the images/menus, etc is fine. When I pull the capture card out and put my HDMI/DVI cable directly into my xbox again, it works perfectly as always.

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Jim_Hardin    418

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Hard to guess without a better picture of what is going on???

 

Can you post a picture or 3 of the wiring and maybe a screen cap?

 

Posting info, HERE

 

ALSO... did you install the Roxio Software before you ever plugged in the capture device?

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If your preview is working (lag is normal) then your output should also be fine.

 

I expect the issue is with the HDMI to DVI conversion.

 

Try using a normal HDMI output cable to a different target? Like say a TV in the house? This will at least tell us where the problem lies.

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^^^ Yeah OK, I'll try it all on a tv. The HDMI to DVI conversion works perfectly when the capture card is not used however.

 

ALSO... did you install the Roxio Software before you ever plugged in the capture device?

 

From memory I plugged it all in while the software was installing but the instructions didn't say otherwise (i.e. there was no order stipulated). Should I have installed the software after plugging in all the cables, etc? If so, should I un-install everything and start again?

 

Thankyou both for your help.

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Jim_Hardin    418

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^^^ Yeah OK, I'll try it all on a tv. The HDMI to DVI conversion works perfectly when the capture card is not used however.

 

 

 

From memory I plugged it all in while the software was installing but the instructions didn't say otherwise (i.e. there was no order stipulated). Should I have installed the software after plugging in all the cables, etc? If so, should I un-install everything and start again?

 

Thankyou both for your help.

 

Generally speaking... You NEVER insert a USB Device into a PC until the Software has been installed :o

 

This prevents Windows from misidentifying the device and installing and assigning the wrong drivers for it ;)

 

But try out what Embalmer suggests before we start chasing our drivers tail :lol:

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Jim_Hardin    418

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I'm having the same problem :( It seems like the card doesn't work with HDMI to DVI Adapters...

Here is a picture:

https://www.dropbox....nr/IMG_0234.JPG

Spell Out exactly what 'the same' is...

 

Unless you are running exactly the same PC and TV and Game Console, it is only 'similar'... ;)

 

Is there anyway you can test using just an HDMI without any adapter???

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Sorry for that. I'm not a native speaker, but thanks for pointing it out. I'll try to get it right in the future.

 

I'd really like to try it out with a HDMI port but sadly I don't have a TV that has one. Until now I thought HDMI is just DVI with added sound and a different connector. (That's why there are those passive adapters) I guess I'm wrong there...

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Jim_Hardin    418

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Sorry for that. I'm not a native speaker, but thanks for pointing it out. I'll try to get it right in the future.

 

I'd really like to try it out with a HDMI port but sadly I don't have a TV that has one. Until now I thought HDMI is just DVI with added sound and a different connector. (That's why there are those passive adapters) I guess I'm wrong there...

Oh, did not realize that, my wife is from Luneburg ;)

 

I DO NOT KNOW as far as adapters go... I know several years ago I tried a an HDMI to VGA so I could run my laptop on an older (VGA) monitor but it did not work!

 

I suspect (and I reiterate that I do not know!) that the DVI to HDMI works but not when going from HDMI to DVI???

 

Can anyone else speak to that?

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Daku93    0

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Well since the Adapter does work, when connecting my XBox directly to my TV (XBox-> HDMI Cable -> DVI Adapter -> TV) and when connecting my TV to the HDMI port of my graphics card (where I normaly use the DVI port of course), and Wikipedia says "Because HDMI is electrically compatible with the CEA-861 signals used by digital visual interface (DVI), no signal conversion is necessary, nor is there a loss of video quality when a DVI-to-HDMI adapter is used." I'd assume that there is a problem with the way HDMI functionality is implemented in the Game Capture HD Pro... But maybe it's just the adapter I'm using... It came with my graphics card. I'll just order a HDMI -> DVI cable and see if it works then.

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I think I know where the problem is. Even when I set my XBox to RGB Color Space the Game Capture outputs the video in YCbCr color space, which is not supported by DVI... My last option seems to be a adapter with one HDMI in and 2 out. so I can connect my XBox to the Adapter and the Card and my TV to it, so I don't have to plug my TV into the capture card.

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I'm having the same problem :( It seems like the card doesn't work with HDMI to DVI Adapters...

Here is a picture:

https://www.dropbox....nr/IMG_0234.JPG

 

Yes, the photo you put up is the same colour issues I'm having. I tried so many different settings and got nowhere. I've ordered a RCA to DVI cable and am just waiting to see if that works. Fingers crossed.

 

Let us know how your adapter works for you if you get he chance?

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Well... I just got my HDMI splitter, and surprise: it does not work... My TV receives a correct signal now, and the image looks great, but the capture card doesn't get one... I just sent it back and will order another, cheaper, passive one. (The one I had now was active and activated one or both ports only, when a device was connected there. I don't think it recognized the capture card.) Since a passive one passes the signal to both ports no matter if a device is connected or not, I think that might actually work. Will keep you updated.

 

I also think that RCA to DVI does not work, because if you connect the XBox to the HDMI port of the Roxio it only passes the image to the output HDMI port and not the other ones...

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Jim_Hardin    418

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What are you fellows talking about when you say "RCA"???

 

I see many for DVI to composite but few that do DVI to component...

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Well Well. I just got the new cable and it works perfectly :D I get perfect images and sound on both my GameCap and the TV (Well no sound there because DVI doesn't support it)

Here is an image of the cable and how I connected it:

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Jim_Hardin    418

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Daku93: Is that a passive splitter??? I don't see any place for power...

 

Heisenberg: You cable looks good too, I see it is intended for Component signal. (RCA is name for that style of plug and a little too 'generic' for me ;) )

 

By the way, that is one scary icon you have there :lol: (I watched the TV series so I know who he (you?) is)

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Yes it is passive. The one I had before was active but it didn't work. This one only works when both the TV and the Roxio are connected because otherwise I get lines all over the image and it flickers.

 

P.S. When I wanted to look in this forums earlier yesterday I just got an animated message with music and stuff, that it was hacked and all data including passwords (hashes I hope) was dumped... What was it?

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Jim_Hardin    418

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Yes that was a hack on Invasion sites.

 

Was fixed later in the day. For those that missed it the screen went to this:

 

 

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Heisenberg    0

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Anyone reading this - just go with the splitter that Daku purchased. It works perfectly, is cheap and saves mucking around trying to get the right dvi/hmdi cable etc. The component/dvi cable I purchased was the wrong DVI input :angry: (DVI-D) so I just bought the splitter instead. It's perfect.

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Jim_Hardin    418

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That is GREAT to hear!!!

 

Can you or Daku93 supply a link to one that worked for you?

 

Might help others stumbling down this path :lol:

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