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[gmacosko]

I would like to remove the voice completely from some songs on CDs, i.e. Dylan, Phil Ochs, The Beatles, and just use the instrumental as background for a slide show/video.  I tried WAV, MP3 and WMA copies of a few songs, but, unless I'm doing something wrong, the deVoicer leaves portions of the voice and sounds pretty awful.  (I found no references in the Roxio Community to deVoicer.)

Is there a way to copy just the instrumental track from the original recording, or lift the instrumental track from, say, an MP3 file?  Is anyone aware of another program that might do is?

[grandpabruce]

gmacosko, on Aug 20 2006, 07:40 PM, said:

I would like to remove the voice completely from some songs on CDs, i.e. Dylan, Phil Ochs, The Beatles, and just use the instrumental as background for a slide show/video.  I tried WAV, MP3 and WMA copies of a few songs, but, unless I'm doing something wrong, the deVoicer leaves portions of the voice and sounds pretty awful.  (I found no references in the Roxio Community to deVoicer.)

Is there a way to copy just the instrumental track from the original recording, or lift the instrumental track from, say, an MP3 file?  Is anyone aware of another program that might do is?

I have no clue what software you are using, but I didn't know there was a de-voicer in Roxio EMC 8.  What part of EMC 8 is it in?

Edited by grandpabruce, 20 August 2006 - 06:54 PM.

[myguggi]

gmacosko, on Aug 20 2006, 08:40 PM, said:

I would like to remove the voice completely from some songs on CDs, i.e. Dylan, Phil Ochs, The Beatles, and just use the instrumental as background for a slide show/video. I tried WAV, MP3 and WMA copies of a few songs, but, unless I'm doing something wrong, the deVoicer leaves portions of the voice and sounds pretty awful. (I found no references in the Roxio Community to deVoicer.)

Is there a way to copy just the instrumental track from the original recording, or lift the instrumental track from, say, an MP3 file? Is anyone aware of another program that might do is?

Like Bruce, I did not know that EMC 8 has such a thing as a "deVoicer". Did a google search and came up with a link to perhaps exactly what you are looking. A further search might also list programs that are able to do what you want



http://www.quepublis...i...453681&rl=1

Edited by myguggi, 20 August 2006 - 07:23 PM.

[d_deweywright]

myguggi, on Aug 20 2006, 11:20 PM, said:

Like Bruce, I did not know that EMC 8 has such a thing as a "deVoicer". Did a google search and came up with a link to perhaps exactly what you are looking. A further search might also list programs that are able to do what you want



http://www.quepublis...i...453681&rl=1

Umm... guys, check out the Sound Effects menu in Sound Editor.  (Where else would you look?)  Actually, I'd never tried it before now, and how well it works depends greatly on how the vocals have been processed.  If they're centered (as most are) and haven't had much reverb/echo applied, it seems to work remarkably well.  If you have Earth Wind and Fire's latest album, "Illumination", try the first track, the center vocals disappear almost entirely, but the chorus is left quite intact.

I also tried some Celine Dione, Basha, and Cat Stevens, and it didn't work nearly as well, though in all cases the vocals were reduced significantly.  

Now, as for a way to completely eliminate vocals from a song and leave the instruments intact?  You'll need to go back to the original master and re-master it without them.  Remember, once it's mixed and on a CD (or LP or tape) it's a single waveform, and to try and pull out "vocals" and not "instruments" is a guess job at best.  The instruments and vocals aren't "separate tracks" that can be eliminated or left.

Edited by d_deweywright, 21 August 2006 - 09:52 AM.

[grandpabruce]

d_deweywright, on Aug 21 2006, 06:09 AM, said:

Umm... guys, check out the Sound Effects menu in Sound Editor.  (Where else would you look?)  Actually, I'd never tried it before now, and how well it works depends greatly on how the vocals have been processed.  If they're centered (as most are) and haven't had much reverb/echo applied, it seems to work remarkably well.  If you have Earth Wind and Fire's latest album, "Illumination", try the first track, the center vocals disappear almost entirely, but the chorus is left quite intact.

I also tried some Celine Dione, Basha, and Cat Stevens, and it didn't work nearly as well, though in all cases the vocals were reduced significantly.  

Now, as for a way to completely eliminate vocals from a song and leave the instruments intact?  You'll need to go back to the original master and re-master it without them.  Remember, once it's mixed and on a CD (or LP or tape) it's a single waveform, and to try and pull out "vocals" and not "instruments" is a guess job at best.

Thanks, Dave.  I guess I never looked, before.

[myguggi]

d_deweywright, on Aug 21 2006, 07:09 AM, said:

Umm... guys, check out the Sound Effects menu in Sound Editor. (Where else would you look?) Actually, I'd never tried it before now, and how well it works depends greatly on how the vocals have been processed. If they're centered (as most are) and haven't had much reverb/echo applied, it seems to work remarkably well. If you have Earth Wind and Fire's latest album, "Illumination", try the first track, the center vocals disappear almost entirely, but the chorus is left quite intact.

I also tried some Celine Dione, Basha, and Cat Stevens, and it didn't work nearly as well, though in all cases the vocals were reduced significantly.

Now, as for a way to completely eliminate vocals from a song and leave the instruments intact? You'll need to go back to the original master and re-master it without them. Remember, once it's mixed and on a CD (or LP or tape) it's a single waveform, and to try and pull out "vocals" and not "instruments" is a guess job at best.

I don't have a need to eliminate vocals (well, maybe some of Celines "screaming" would be a candidate ). A search of the internet seems to show that most "deVoicers" do a poor job at best.!

Edited by myguggi, 21 August 2006 - 07:28 AM.

[jeanrosenfeld]

The help file does warn:

Devoicer: Lets you remove voice from music. This feature is most effective when removing a single voice. It may not be possible to remove highly produced and mixed vocals.

[gmacosko]

jeanrosenfeld, on Aug 22 2006, 12:39 PM, said:

The help file does warn:

Devoicer: Lets you remove voice from music. This feature is most effective when removing a single voice. It may not be possible to remove highly produced and mixed vocals.

Try removing Dylan's voice from what sounds like a guitar and one voice.  They were probably recorded on one track.
Dave, I figured that was the case, but thanks for making me certain of the possibility.

[sknis]

gmacosko, on Aug 22 2006, 03:45 PM, said:

Try removing Dylan's voice from what sounds like a guitar and one voice. They were probably recorded on one track.
Dave, I figured that was the case, but thanks for making me certain of the possibility.

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