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#1 tomatospice

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:16 AM

I am running Creator  2012 on Windows 7.  I have been using the creator series for several years, but have had a problem with Creator 12 making iso files that are too large for the disc. I am making an AVCHD DVD. I realize there is a difference between the disc saying there are 4.7 GB available when there is really only 4.3, and likewise with a DL only having room for about 7.9 instead of 8.5. My question is how do I make it fit to the disc?

I have tried saving the iso file, then opening it in roxio video copy and convert. My iso file shows up in my directory, but doesn't show up in the right hand screen for me to select. I made the file in MyDVD as just a regular DVD instead of AVCHD and then burned an iso file and that iso file will show up in copy & convert. However, I want the AVCHD, that is why I bought a new video camera. Why won't the iso for the AVCHD DVD show up and yet the regular DVD iso file will?

I have also tried selecting SP or LP mode instead of fit to disc in MyDVD. SP is generally too large, but LP will fit, however it is really too small and it is only using part of the DVD and I don't want the quality to go down that far. Why can't they make the fit to disc actually fit to the disc?

Any suggestions out there?

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:24 AM

Because the AVCHD disc is high definition, you can only put about 45 minutes on a disc; double that for a double layer. Are you making a true AVCHD disc?  It is one with high definition (720 or 1080)  but must be played on a blu ray player that will play that kind of disc.

Fit to disc is the absolute worst selection you can make.  Select the best quality and make the ISO .  Use the copy ISO to Disc application that is on the Home page under Data.  It should compress the project to fit.  Of course, if you try to compress it too much, it will turn out looking like an old 8mm film DVD or worse

How much time are you trying to put onto that AVCHD disc?   Ignore the amount of gigs available.  That is probably just good for data; it is not for video.

Edited by sknis, 04 January 2013 - 11:30 AM.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:39 AM

I am not sure what you mean by a true AVCHD disc....I am burning to a DVD-R, but selecting AVCHD on MyDVD since my videocamera is HD. The resulting disc will not play in my regular DVD player, but will play on my blu ray player.

I am putting our high school basketball games on the DVD. Most are right about 45 minutes long. I did not ever have this fit to disc problem with Creator 2009, but do have it with 2012. I usually burn about ten copies of each DVD for the coaches and players. This problem is really putting me behind.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 11:46 AM

Also, I see that you had anotehr suggestion for me once you edited your post....about using the burn disc image application. That is the one I always use (other than trying copy and convert since someone said it would compress the file). However, when I use that burn disc image application, it tells me the iso file is too large for the disc.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

1) AVCHD disc is  a video disc burned with a standard .burner on a standard optical burner,  You can put about 45 minutes of Video on a AVCHD disc.  It can be played on some but not all blu ray players.  It is high definition (720 or 1080).

You can compare this with a blu ray disc for the same resolution .  You need a blu ray burner and a blu ray blank media to burn the disc.  You can have several hours of video on it.

2)  If you do not want high definition on a DVD, you can start with ANY resolution video including your high definition AVCHD format.  The program will down convert the resolution to 720 by 480.   You can get about one hour of best quality video on that single layer disc.  Much more than that you will lose quality.  You have to decide what is good enough for you.

There are some other types of video disc (like DivX) but those are special and again, not all DVD players can play them.

Burn ISO to a disc will do some down converting but you are still limited to the approximate sizes discussed above.

Perhaps I missed something in your original post.  Are you trying to make a 1) AVCHD disc or 2) A standard video DVD but starting with a high definition video file.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:36 PM

I'm starting with HD video file and making an AVCHD disc. It sounds like my options are just to chose LP instead of fit to disc and go with a lesser quality...or change programs. I have not been impressed with Creator 2012 to say the least. Thanks so much for your help.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:11 AM

Just wonder why you are ignoring my question about how much time you are trying to put on the type of disc you are trying to make.

naother edit:  The information I gave you about the discs are standards in the industry so not other program will do much more than this for quality.  Why would you want to make a disc where you can't tell who is who?

Edited by sknis, 05 January 2013 - 04:14 AM.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 05:14 PM

If you look back up to my second post, I did answer your question about how much time I am trying to put on the disc....each basketball game is approximately 45 minutes. Thanks again for your help.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:20 PM

View Posttomatospice, on 05 January 2013 - 05:14 PM, said:

If you look back up to my second post, I did answer your question about how much time I am trying to put on the disc....each basketball game is approximately 45 minutes. Thanks again for your help.

Are you trying to put each 45 min. game on separate discs, or are you trying to put more than one on a disc?  Your second post did not answer sknis's question.
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Posted 06 January 2013 - 01:58 PM

I am having alot of issues as well. I've been using Roxio for a very long time. Recently, my discs are coming out quite different than the quality I used to burn using Fit To Disc. I try burning the exact same media that I have before and it compresses to EP quality when I use Fit To Disc. It used to fill the whole disc but now compresses to half.

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 02:07 PM

View PostNiniannebast, on 06 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

I am having alot of issues as well. I've been using Roxio for a very long time. Recently, my discs are coming out quite different than the quality I used to burn using Fit To Disc. I try burning the exact same media that I have before and it compresses to EP quality when I use Fit To Disc. It used to fill the whole disc but now compresses to half.

Not much information in your post other then "it used to work now it doesn't work"

How do you know it compresses to EP quality? The few times I used Fit2Disc it always filled only half the DVD and that is why I dumped it. It never filled the whole disc and that is going back for or five versions.

It is a useless option which gives terrible results.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:50 AM

View PostNiniannebast, on 06 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

I am having alot of issues as well. I've been using Roxio for a very long time. Recently, my discs are coming out quite different than the quality I used to burn using Fit To Disc. I try burning the exact same media that I have before and it compresses to EP quality when I use Fit To Disc. It used to fill the whole disc but now compresses to half.

This post is about AVCHD discs and blu ray.  Are you making those or are you making a standard definition disc?  If standard definition, stay with your other thread !
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:27 PM

View PostNiniannebast, on 06 January 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

I am having alot of issues as well. I've been using Roxio for a very long time. Recently, my discs are coming out quite different than the quality I used to burn using Fit To Disc. I try burning the exact same media that I have before and it compresses to EP quality when I use Fit To Disc. It used to fill the whole disc but now compresses to half.
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