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[Gary Lee]

Just picked up the downloadable version 8.  With Easy version 5 I could record tracks to cdrw's and choose not to finalize so that I could add more later.  Version 8 does not offer this option for some reason.  Version 8 appears to finalize all audio cd's when you close the project...actually rendering this version useless for my applications.  Can I record audio cuts and choose to finalize at a later date after adding more tracks?  If so, how?

Thanks

[T.O.T.G.]

Gary Lee, on Aug 25 2006, 11:29 AM, said:

Just picked up the downloadable version 8.  With Easy version 5 I could record tracks to cdrw's and choose not to finalize so that I could add more later.  Version 8 does not offer this option for some reason.  Version 8 appears to finalize all audio cd's when you close the project...actually rendering this version useless for my applications.  Can I record audio cuts and choose to finalize at a later date after adding more tracks?  If so, how?

Thanks

Depends on what program you are using.  In Creator Classic, there is a burn dialogue box.  In this burn dialogue box, there is an "Advanced General Options" section.  In this section, simply make sure that "Read-Only" is not checked off.  Next time you burn, you will need to import the previous files to be able to append data.

If you are strictly creating Audio CDs, using Music Disc Creator, I don't believe this is possible however... Post what kind of project you are trying to create (I.E. what your "applications" are).

edit: Is what I say

Edited by T.O.T.G., 31 August 2006 - 01:31 PM.

[Gary Lee]

I'm a radio commercial producer and keep a master cd of produced spots.  As I get them done, I add them to a master cd...so I might record 70 or 80 cuts on a cd...perhaps ten a day...until it's full...then finalize and file it away.  Just trying to figure out how to do that.

Thanks

[tbrewst]

Do they have to be in Audio cd format (.cda files)?If not and they are just wav files or something like that just do as T.O.T.G. says and make a data disc instead of an audio cd and uncheck read only under the options.Even if they are just on a data disc you should be able to go back and listen to them on a computer,just not an Audio CD player (home,car,etc..)

[d_deweywright]

tbrewst, on Aug 28 2006, 12:29 PM, said:

Do they have to be in Audio cd format (.cda files)?If not and they are just wav files or something like that just do as T.O.T.G. says and make a data disc instead of an audio cd and uncheck read only under the options.Even if they are just on a data disc you should be able to go back and listen to them on a computer,just not an Audio CD player (home,car,etc..)

From what I've seen, the option to record in TAO (Track-At-Once) mode has been removed, which means you can no longer leave an audio CD "open".  You're left with the options listed previously, of creating a Data CD, or collecting your files (on HD or CD) until you have a CD's full worth, and then writing them all to an Audoi CD at that time.

Edited by d_deweywright, 31 August 2006 - 10:39 AM.

[REDWAGON]

(T.O.T.G.--"General Options Section)

If you are using Creator Classic and want to have a burned disc that files can be appended to later, the attachment should show you what box to uncheck. This is for a "Data" Disc, not an Audio Disc.

Frank....

[Gary Lee]

That you all for great responses.  Yes, I believe the Track At Once option is no longer there and that's what I use Roxio for pimarily.  I appreciate all your expertice!

gary

[T.O.T.G.]

Gary Lee, on Sep 1 2006, 02:37 AM, said:

That you all for great responses.  Yes, I believe the Track At Once option is no longer there and that's what I use Roxio for pimarily.  I appreciate all your expertice!

gary

Come to think of it, you could try using Drag-to-Disc for this...

Be warned: Many users have had problems with D2D, so I recommend keeping a backup of anything you write to a D2D disc.  The best plan would probably be to use D2D throughout the day, and then at the end of the day, finalize it, and make another CD using all of those files, and creator classic (data CD).  I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that Drag-to-Disc will automatically create a CD that can be listened to in an audio CD player.  I'll test it out for you, and get back to you with the results.

[d_deweywright]

T.O.T.G., on Sep 1 2006, 09:21 AM, said:

Come to think of it, you could try using Drag-to-Disc for this...

Be warned: Many users have had problems with D2D, so I recommend keeping a backup of anything you write to a D2D disc.  The best plan would probably be to use D2D throughout the day, and then at the end of the day, finalize it, and make another CD using all of those files, and creator classic (data CD).  I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that Drag-to-Disc will automatically create a CD that can be listened to in an audio CD player.  I'll test it out for you, and get back to you with the results.

Umm... no, that's definitely not the case.  D2D uses a completely different file system, UDF, for writing discs.  It has never been usable in CD players.  It's also, as mentioned, considered unreliable by many folks, and in addition, the discs created by D2D cannot be read in older Windows systems without special drivers.

Personally, I wouldn't even consider it for this application.

[Sister Maria]

This has been my question all along too.  Had 6.  Called Roxio who said 8 would do it.  Bought 8.  As far as I can determine it does not.  Someone told me that Nero 6 does......

[d_deweywright]

Sister Maria, on Sep 4 2006, 10:28 AM, said:

This has been my question all along too.  Had 6.  Called Roxio who said 8 would do it.  Bought 8.  As far as I can determine it does not.  Someone told me that Nero 6 does......

To clarify, your question is what, "Can I create an Audio CD in Track At Once mode, and leave it open for adding more tracks later?"  If so, the answer is, "no".  But I would ask, why would you want to do that?  a) such a disc is only playable in a CD Writer until it finalized.  b ) you can collect your files on HD until you have a full discs worth and write it in Disc At Once mode at that time, and it'll be playable in any player.  c) you can write your files as data files to a multi-sessio Data CD and keep adding files to it until it is full, and the files will be playable on any PC as you add them.

I fail to understand the desire/need to create an unfinalized Audio CD.  Please make a compelling case for me.

Edited by d_deweywright, 04 September 2006 - 06:49 AM.

[gaper1]

don't think Nero would allow you to create an audio CD with Track at Once... with either Creator 8 or Nero, you could burn those audio files on Data Disc with Track at Once as WAV files... if it's created with Tack at Once, it is not an Audio CD since no CD player would play it...

[d_deweywright]

gaper1, on Sep 5 2006, 02:36 PM, said:

don't think Nero would allow you to create an audio CD with Track at Once... with either Creator 8 or Nero, you could burn those audio files on Data Disc with Track at Once as WAV files... if it's created with Tack at Once, it is not an Audio CD since no CD player would play it...

Earlier versions of Roxio's product did indeed allow writing Audio CDs in Track At Once mode.  The major difference between TAO and DAO is that in TAO, the laser is turned off between writing the tracks, so there is a lead-out and lead-in block for each track, and a resultant 2 second gap added.  Also, as the tracks are written, the table of contents information gets written in the PMA area temporarily.  After all the tracks are written, the PMA is read, and then the Table of Contents gets written.  

In DAO mode, the Table of Contents is written first, then all the tracks, with the laser never turned off between tracks.  No 2 second gap gets added.

I don't recall if EMC 7.5 allowed writing in TAO mode, but version 8 definitely doesn't.  

Audio CDs can be written in TAO mode.  If the session is not closed (finalized) more tracks can be written, but until it is closed, the disc cannot be played in anything except a CD writer on a computer.  If another session is written after the first session is closed, that session (and tracks) won't be seen by a regular CD player, only the tracks in the first session will play.

Hope that clears things up a bit.