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Hi all, I have worked with Videowave before but not in depth. I am just now starting to work with a number of home videos. I noticed that in the latest version, NXT Pro 2, that stabilization and rotation were available so I upgraded from the 2010 version. In any tutorial I find it clearly tells me how to add the stabilization and then double click on the "stabilize video" in the timeline to get to the settings. So, when I do that I get nothing. Not sure if this is related, but if I close the Media selector, Effect selector, and Settings in the top right portion of the Videowave window and then double click the "stabilize video" in the timeline the settings window appears but says "There are no settings available for this object." In the tutorials the settings show up in a totally separate window like what happens if you double click on the video in the timeline. I saw in online help under stabilization: "Note: Depending on the software version you are running, some of the features described above may not be available. For information about upgrading to take full advantage of all the features described in the online Help" but I assume the newest pro version would have this feature. It is a 16:9 production, not 3D. Can anyone shed any light on this? Thank you in advance!!!

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Go here (link) and scroll down to video stabilization and watch the tutorial. Is that the process you used?

 

There are several things that you have to remember:

 

1) The stabilization works only like a zoom so depending on how much you stabilize, you will lose some of the edges of the video . Note all programs with stabilization work this way.

2) It is not a cure all; it reduces the shakiness but it will not eliminate all of it (see 1 above)

3) Make sure that the effect extends for the entire duration of the area you want to fix. It usually shows up in the timeline for a short period (10 seconds/), you can select that track, place you cursor over the end and in the center part until you get a double headed arrow and drag it to the right (or left).

4) You have to be running the program at high enough resolution to display the setting window.

5) You have to make sure that the video clip section is selected. There should be a box and color change on the selected section. If you don;t have the selection, you can't do anything.

 

Let us know if any of the above helps.

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sknis, thanks for your reply. The link you provided was the tutorial that I watched. I will attach a screen shot of the window that I don't get when I double click on the stabilization in the timeline. As far as the rest of your points 1,2, &3 I understand and have done. 4 I am running at 1920x1080 so I would assume that is plenty. 5 I am not real clear about what you mean by "make sure that the video clip section is selected" but I think I have done that. When I choose stabilize to begin with I see the FX1 track appear and also see an orange section appear under the preview image pane which I can then adjust to the whole image or just part of it. But no matter what I do, when I double click on the stabilization track in the timeline like is done in the tutorial I get no settings window (see attached file for what should happen according to the tutorial) Note the position of the hand mouse pointer is where I am double clicking.

 

I also have tried uninstalling all the Roxio programs as I did have 2010 installed originally. Then I re-installed just the NXT Pro 2 version and tried again with the same results. I also tried a 4:3 production just out of curiosity.

 

Any other ideas?

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Unfortunately you didn't show that the video track was selected (in the background). I see music and the FX1 track. What do you have in the timeline above the Music track? Is that selected (it doesn;t look like it).

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Is 2 out of 3 OK???

 

I get the Settings as I would expect with Creator 2011 and with NXT, But NOT with NXT 2 Pro :huh:

 

So we are on the same base - the video does not have to be selected. If you click on "Stabilize Video" in the Fix section, it will be inserted on the Fx1 Track at the location of the scrubber! (Fx2 is something is already there)

 

If you click on the Stabilize Video effect, and the Settings window or tab is open, it is supposed to show the settings for that as Dave indicated with his picture from the Tutorial in Post #3... It does NOT in NXT 2 Pro!

 

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Please try it and see if it does work on any others???

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I went back and looked at the tutorial (which is where I got the image from) and it appears that the author scrolls the timeline down right before he double clicks the Stabilize Video in the timeline which is why you don't see the video track selected, but it is selected. I went back and double checked what I am doing and I definitely have it selected as it has a blue dot. That is what you mean correct? It sounds like Jim is confirming that it doesn't work in NXT Pro 2. I guess maybe a call to support is in order if no one happens to know the answer. Other than the NXT Pro 2 I only have 2009 & 2010 which didn't have the stabilization feature I don't believe.

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I have exactly the same issue in Roxio Creator NXT Pro 2. The stabilization settings do not appear when double click on the effect. Any solution?

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Jim, has there been any update on the video stabilization issue? It doesn't work in my NXT 2 Pro, and I only have partial success with NXT Pro.

 

As you can see in the screenshot, I do not have a Picture Quality field - only stringRef.Names.Locked. Any experience with this?

 

Brian

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I just spent more money upgrading from NXT to NXT Pro so I would have access to these stabilization options, but they don't appear.

NXT did not have these stabilization options, and based on the "Note:" at the bottom of this stabilizing video help page I decided I must need to get NXT Pro to get these options.

Note: Depending on the software version you are running, some of the features described above may not be available. For information about upgrading to take full advantage of all the features described in the online Help, visit www.roxio.com.

The NXT Pro marketing page linked to the video on how to set these options, so I bought Pro.

After further investigation, I think in fact both versions are the same, and neither have these options, but perhaps should?

The "why to upgrade to NXT Pro" page suggests stabilization options are the same:

Stabilize shaky videos shot with cell phones, digital cameras and other handheld devices NXT NXTPRO

I'm quite disappointed that this bug exists, and that I was mislead on functionality, and I will cancel my order.

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Hi mzettler. Welcome to the forum.

 

Yes the base programs are the same in NXT and NXT Pro; what is different are the add-in programs. Some of which are very useful. As discussed above,,for some people there is a problem which will probably never be fixed. I have Creator 2012 Pro on my computer and it works as advertized. - Just remember to read everything with a grain of salt. The people who write the descriptions have probably never even seen the program and they just embellish to make it sound better without crossing the line of non-existant features.

 

A couple of comments

 

1) Stabilize video just zooms in on the video so you may lose the edges.(That is the way almost all of them work except for a few high priced video stabilizers)

2) They only work with slightly shaky video something like a shaky pan or small vibrations like riding a bus. They do not work well with a person jogging, trying to use a cell phone for video, etc.

3) When you are working in Video Wave do you have the stabilize video button on the left? When you press it does a effects (fx) track appear with the stabilization on it. Remember that you have to move/stretch it to cover that part of the video that needs to be stabilized. Once you have applied the stabilization you then need to select setting and you should get just a couple of options for the stabilization.

4) The controls that people are looking for are the amount of stabilization (read zoom amount). or are for other functions of the editor (see edit below).

 

As I said above, there are other programs that will do a better job of stabilizing video. When you cancel your order and with the above knowledge and with very shaky videos, look for a standalone program like this (link). I have not used it but I have used other programs from this developer. There is a 14 day trial. I think that the price is reasonable should you decide to buy it.

 

Edit: The program does not have the ability to do key frames and that is why that is greyed out. Perhaps it was something that the engineers wanted to do but were no able to. Look in the help files and there is nothing there. You can sort of do some key framing with pan and zoom.

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Thanks for the quick response sknis!

 

To be clear I am referring to Roxio Creator NXT2 and Roxio Creator NXT 2 Pro

 

1) I was expecting/willing to give up some edge real estate to stabilize the clip

2) Even with a short test clip, I can't be sure the stabilization algorithm is doing anything.

3) Yes the stabilize video option is available on the left side of the interface, and the effect does show up in FX1 line at bottom, just as shown here:

http://img.roxio.com/enu/roxiocentral/creator2011/tutorials/video/stabilizing-rotating-video.html

It seams this tutorial is for creator 2001, but has been linked to Roxio Creator NXT 2 and NXT2 Pro.

Somebody in sales/marketing messed up here.

Everything works the same, except double-clicking in the FX gives an empty settings dialog.

4) I was hoping to gain access to the stabilize video setting: stabilize rotation, type, picture quality, and zoom level

 

I will give the tool you recommend (NewBlue Stabilizer plugin) a try via 14-day trial.

Do you know if they are partnered with Roxio/Corel?

If they are, I am unlikely to purchase, for obvious reasons.

 

Cheers

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Ignore what I said above re: stabilization and options It worked in Creator 2013 but not in NXt2 Pro.

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I guess I am now waiting to be contacted by someone from Roxio/Corel to make this right.

Otherwise I will need to cancel my order of NXT 2 Pro :-(

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Don;t wait for them ! You need to be proactive in cancelling your order with he company you placed your order. Do it now !

 

I was playing around with the pan and zoom editor since that is basically what the stabilizer does. I don't have a video where it would show. You might try that or you could try posting a 5 second video to an online sharing site so we can play with it. You can zoom in just a couple of percent to see if it does anything for you.

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Zooming in does not seem to make any difference.

 

And after installing the other stabilizer as a trial, it does not seem to be avail in roxio videowave.

There are no installation instructions on the "Corel Video Studio** X3+" compatibility.

Have you installed this tool into NXT Pro?

I am asked where to install, and have tried several obvious choices in Roxio disk tree, but to no avail.

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Zooming in does not seem to make any difference.

 

And after installing the other stabilizer as a trial, it does not seem to be avail in roxio videowave.

There are no installation instructions on the "Corel Video Studio** X3+" compatibility.

Have you installed this tool into NXT Pro?

I am asked where to install, and have tried several obvious choices in Roxio disk tree, but to no avail.

 

The NewBlue Stabilizer plugin does not work with Roxio. The NewBlue website lists the programs that accept the plugin , look under specifications

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Sorry, I thought that there was a standalone version. Lo9oks like there is a plug in for certain Corel and Pinnacle versions. FYI both Roxio and Pinnacle are owned by Corel who also has video editing programs.

 

Try this one. It is a standalone version that does have a free trial and is cheap ! It is from ProDAD in Germany but available from Amazon. ProDAD is a well known video effects developer (VitaScene).

 

I'm trying it now but I really don't have any shaky videos so I don't know how much improvement there will be. I downloaded, installed and started to stabilize a video. It works very well but it is slow!

 

Let us know if you try it and how you like it. Note: Since VideoWave in NXT 2 Pro doesn;t work, it is permissible to post information on this program on these forums.

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I gave up on the proDAD stabilizer. It asked for codec that I installed and then it worked. Any output from either the free version or the V3 trial resulted in a pink "X" across the saved video.

 

Note: If you are running Windows 8 or after, Microsoft has added a video stabilizer to the free Windows Movie Maker. I haven't tried it on my laptop.

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Hey sknis,

 

Mercalli recommendation was a good one!

Mercalli free trial installed itself and 3rd party codecs, and ran the first time.

It works really well to stabilize my test video, and my live band videos too (except of course the X watermark on the output video).

This stabilization tool live up to my (at this point relatively naive) expectations.

It is brilliantly simple to use. it auto starts when a file is dragged into it, loops the stabilized video once it is available, and allow split screen before/after while looping.

You don't have to mess with zoom levels, or any other algorithm controls, it just seems to work as-is.

I did not find the tool slow at all on my brand new i5 3.4 GHz PC - in fact I was impressed with how fast it analyzed and then stabilized.

When the video is very shaky, the stabilized version is stable but overall sometimes loses a bit of clarity, which might be expected due to missing raw video data required to do perfect correction (but I'm no expert).

 

I think this tool is well worth the $20.

 

Corel tech support has been very helpful today, offering a refund, and asking my permission to send my case to the software engineering folks to help troubleshoot the missing video stabilization parameters in NXT2 and NXT2Pro. Hopefully they can figure out what went wrong a provide a fix for folks - these parameters look like they will give users the flexibility and control they need to fix shaky video.

 

mzettler

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Hi have the same issue. This "upgrade" I purchased "Roxio Creator NX Pro 2" claimed to have this stabilization feature yet it does not. I'm calling them today to get my money back. What a rip off this "Roxio Creator NX Pro 2" is.

 

As Digital Guru suggested, I could go out and buy better software, that does more, for less money! Heck, even FREE youtube will stabilize your uploaded videos. Roxio Creator NX Pro 2 is a huge disappointment. Even the music tracks that come with are lame and cheesy. Free youtube has a lot better music tracks.

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