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[scottlamers]

I've just purchased an external dual layer drive in order to up my videos from the 1 hour limit to 2 hours. Some searching has brought up some issues related to defining a transition point between the data burned on the two layers - such that the disruption to the person watching the video is minimized.

Does EMC7 allow you to define how to split up your video in order to 'eliminate' seeing the transition point?

Thanks!

[cdanteek]

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Does EMC7 allow you to define how to split up your video in order to 'eliminate' seeing the transition point?

I assume your referring to the layer break! In 7.5 no setting I have found, but most don't. Some software does it better than others. I use the Free ISO Builder and Burn tool, Imgburn Current version: 2.0.0.0.
ImgBurn will try its very best to burn your DVD-Video double layer images using the layer break you've specified in the IFO files, but it can also calculate the best place for you, to save you the trouble.
http://www.imgburn.com/


If that new burner supports it. Then use the booktype field (bitsetting) and change to DVD-ROM, then DVD players are fooled and will think the user has put in a DVD-ROM disc instead of a DVD+R or +R DL disc and will read it accordingly. This results in an increased chance that the player is able to read the disc and that’s why the ability to change the booktype field (bitsetting) is essential to a lot of users.


I would suggest Verbatim DVD +R DL disc's #95166.

cdanteek

[myguggi]

scottlamers, on Sep 9 2006, 07:18 AM, said:

I've just purchased an external dual layer drive in order to up my videos from the 1 hour limit to 2 hours. Some searching has brought up some issues related to defining a transition point between the data burned on the two layers - such that the disruption to the person watching the video is minimized.

Does EMC7 allow you to define how to split up your video in order to 'eliminate' seeing the transition point?

Thanks!

I don't think there is any way to "eliminate" the transition point (layer break) on DL DVDs. Even commercial DL DVDs have it and I would think they would have eliminated  it if it were possible.

[scottlamers]

Its not so much that I was trying to eliminate the setting, but to instead define where I wanted the tranition point.

I may give this other software a try... In fact I might just give up on Roxio. I can't seem to generate my MPG file with the audio and video in synch.

Thanks.

[myguggi]

scottlamers, on Sep 9 2006, 03:30 PM, said:

Its not so much that I was trying to eliminate the setting, but to instead define where I wanted the tranition point.

I may give this other software a try... In fact I might just give up on Roxio. I can't seem to generate my MPG file with the audio and video in synch.

Thanks.

Why are you trying to generate a mpg file? The audio/video sync promlem does not occur only with Roxio, most video software seems to have the problems at some point.

[scottlamers]

I scanned my videos in as MPG (could have done AVI, but wanted to save on disk space), so prior to generating my DVD file, I output my production to MPG. Is there a better or more preferred way to prep for DVD builder?

[myguggi]

scottlamers, on Sep 9 2006, 03:43 PM, said:

I scanned my videos in as MPG (could have done AVI, but wanted to save on disk space), so prior to generating my DVD file, I output my production to MPG. Is there a better or more preferred way to prep for DVD builder?

I prefer to capture my video into avi especially if I want to do any editing in Videowave. Some posters have noted that they have the audio/video sync problems if they capture to mpg format but not for avi. I have never captured to mpg so cannot comment on that. I am assuming that you are using Videowave when you are outputting your production to mpg. There is really no need to output in Videowave since you can go directly from Videowave to DVD Builder to author the DVD. Another way is to save your production to a dmsm file (simply a list of editing instruction applied to your production) using Videowave, then close Videowave and launch DVD Builder where you can load the dmsm file using Add New title.

[ml]

scottlamers, on Sep 9 2006, 02:43 PM, said:

I scanned my videos in as MPG (could have done AVI, but wanted to save on disk space), so prior to generating my DVD file, I output my production to MPG. Is there a better or more preferred way to prep for DVD builder?

Don't prep it (output production...) for DVD Builder. Just hit the Burn button in VideoWave as Walt suggested.

I that doesn't work, some people have found that they can eliminate the sync problem by doing an Output Production to a DV AVI file and taking that into DVD Builder.   That takes up a lot of space though.

Edited by mlpasley, 09 September 2006 - 05:24 PM.

[scottlamers]

Thanks for all the great info. Hadn't thought of those things.

I'm currently moving my files to my main hard drive (off my secondary) to see if that improves the performance.

I may also try the suggestion you made about loading the dmsn file directly into builder. I had always pre-done it in order to make sure things were in good shape before making my ISO file (which I did check before actual burning to a disk).

Thanks again all!

[scottlamers]

Well, I've tried to skip the intermediate step. My native MPG files are in synch, but the resulting direct DSMN to DVD ISO still has a lag.

Back to the drawing board. I am going to scan them all in as AVI and start over. (5 hours of tape.) I thought I was being smart by converting to MPG on the way in since the software would have to convert to MPG on its way to the DVD authoring format.

Any more thoughts before I restart this effort?

Thanks again! (At least I've learned I can skip the few hours it took to render the intermediate step.)

[ml]

scottlamers, on Sep 11 2006, 08:47 PM, said:

Any more thoughts before I restart this effort?

Yes.   I'm not certain that redoing in AVI is going to help.   It's eventually going to be encoded into an mpeg2 video.

I think the transition point is another issue.

You could do a File\ Output production to.... and make a new movie file.   Then follow the advice to use another program which allows you to select the transition point to burn that file to a dual layer DVD.

Comments, cdanteek?  You obviously have more experience than I in this matter.

[cdanteek]

mlpasley, on Sep 12 2006, 09:18 AM, said:

Yes.   I'm not certain that redoing in AVI is going to help.   It's eventually going to be encoded into an mpeg2 video.

I would try Walt and ml's suggestion.

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I think the transition point is another issue.

I agree ml, the video project has to be working first. Then the layer break issue could be a
older player that don't handle them well or media issue. Bit setting +R DL media to DVD Rom in Imgburn
might help.
I would output a smaller project from these files and make sure it's working first. That way we aren't wasting DL disc's.

You need a ISO for Imgburn, I would let it choose the layer break first. Use the test mode and verify. It will
take some time but worth it.

This program has worked good for me with 30+ burns on Verbatim #95166 +R DL disc's, Book Type Bit setting to DVD Rom. A four and a half year old JVC set-top plays with no pause at the layer break, a one year old Sony upconverting player will too.

Moving the files to the operating system drive, I would question! Any video work on that drive will fragment the heck out of it and might cause other problems.
I output to a raid stripe array. My C drive only has Microsoft programs and Anti Virus Fire Wall program.

If I missed it what media are you using and the make and model of the drive?

cdanteek