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#1 BrianR

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 05:40 PM

I am probably doing something basically wrong in the process of building movies from Canon camcorder to BD-R. Please come along with me and point out my folly. :unsure:

Edit - cant get my screenshots to appear in the correct order!

1. My source files are in .mts format. I built two Vwave projects, one for each .mts file.

2. I created the MyDVD project in the first screenshot below - the second screenshot shows it to be a Bu-ray project. I have not tried the VCHD setting because I don't know what this format supports.

3. I burned the project to a .iso file as shown in the third screenshot. It completes with no problems as shown in the 4th screenshot

4. I use Burn Disk Image (shown in 5th screenshot) to create the movie on the BD-R.

5 The sixth screenshot shows the folder structure created.

6 Finally, we see that the BD-R can't be read (7th screenshot). This also happens on by Blu-ray player. I'm seeking alternate answers before tossing 25 Memorex BD-Rs and going to Verbatim.

What am I doing wrong and how do I correct it? Also, how do I get my images to appear inline instead of at the bottom??? How about just getting them into the correct order???

Thanks for your help!

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Edited by BrianR, 13 June 2014 - 05:45 PM.

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#2 sknis

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 01:19 AM

How did you burn the disc if the burn dialog screen says that no burners are available?

Before you tear out your hair, try playing that DVD on your computer using the free VLC player. That Corel DVD player is limited. Is your blu ray player firmware up to date? Have you ever burned and played a blu ray that worked?

Memorex blu ray discs are nowhere near as bad a Memorex DVDs, They may not be top of the line but there are fewer manufacturers to chose from. You may want to invest in one re-writable blu ray disc for testing purposes.

Edit: By the way, when you go to add the images, one they are added, put your cursor where you want that image to be placed and select the option to add to post (to the right of the image name).

Edited by sknis, 14 June 2014 - 01:22 AM.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:14 AM

I created the .iso file in NXT Pro (on a laptop without blu-ray burner). I transferred the .iso file to my desktop (has NXT 2 Pro on it) and used the Burn Disk Image app to create the blu-tray.

I don't have the VLC player but will locate it and download. Other posts have mentioned it so I'll update when I have installed and tested.

BTW, I have had problems with this blu-ray writer in the past, but have always been able to use my (other) DVD writer to create DVDs.

Blu-ray NO, DVD YES. Sounds like I need a new Blu-ray writer...

Thanks for the help with posting pics - I'll use that next time.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 06:45 AM

How did you transfer to your desktop? Did you then copy the ISO to your desktop or run from the transfer device (whatever that was).

VLC here (link)

Edited by sknis, 14 June 2014 - 06:47 AM.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 07:44 AM

Simple file transfer of the .iso file from laptop to desktop.

To emphasize the point in case it's the wrong thing to do:

1. Wrote .iso using NXT Pro on laptop.

2. Transferred NXT Pro-generated .iso file to desktop running NXT 2 Pro

3 Used NXT 2 Pro on desktop, ran Burn to Disk app to burn blu-ray disk with no errors reported

Thanks for the VLC link!

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 08:26 AM

Brian,

many of us here use the free utility ImgBurn to burn iso files, Video_TS folders, etc to discs. This way you do not even need to use NXT 2

Link to ImgBurn

Edited by myguggi, 14 June 2014 - 08:27 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 09:35 AM

Okay, VLC is able to play back my burned Blu-ray disk. Neither WinDVD nor my Panasonic Blu-ray player can read the disk.

Do you think I may have an encoding issue? IOW, a setting that is not supported by my Panny or WinDVD?

What settings info do you need to see in order to check this out?

Thanks!
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Posted 15 June 2014 - 04:16 AM

Sorry to butt in... -_-

I feel it is sounding more like a Media or Burner issue.

Burner is probably OK so tell us about the media. Hint ~ if it doesn't say Verbatim (Singapore) orTaiyo Yuden (JVC), DON'T let it in your home :lol:

If you don't have any BD-RE media (re-writable) on hand, and you are willing to waste a disc for testing, slap together a quick project on your PC that mimics your desired project and burn it.

Don't bother trying to make win an Oscar this is just to test your current Burner and Media against your Players ;)

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:48 AM

Jim, please feel welcome to add your knowledge to the problem solution!

I have burned a Memorex Blu-ray and found that it is unreadable on my Panasonic player (~ 3-5 years old).

WinDVD does not recognize the disk when placed in the same burner, but VLC does recognize and play it.

I have ordered an external Samsung Blu-ray burner and should have test results by mid-week.

If the problem is not with the burner, then I would think that the settings are wrong somehow. IOW, VLC recognizes the encoding or something similar, whereas WinDVD does not.

What info do you all need to go down this path while I wait on the new burner??

Thanks for your help!
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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:15 AM

WinDVD that comes with the program is severely limited ( as I mentioned above). It is practically useless except for basic playing of home build standard definition discs.

Edited by sknis, 15 June 2014 - 08:17 AM.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 10:10 AM

Sknis (did I see that your name is Steve?), my bet is that getting a fresh blu-ray burner can alleviate the problem. I need one for my laptop anyway so we'll see.

I'm still wondering, though, whether this experience has been resolved with alternate settings in MyDVD? I'm ding a new test burn as an experiment and will repot out.
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Posted 15 June 2014 - 10:46 AM

Update - I used the following Project Settings for creating my .iso file in NXT Pro:



This plays in VLC but my Blu-ray player states that he "Disc is Incompatible".

Please note that I selected "High Quality HQ)" for my encoding preset as well as the "two-pass encoding - still the same disc incompatibility problem.

Any thoughts?

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 11:20 AM

Hmm, still can't get the image to show up where I want it. :glare: Left a hole for it in the latest post, then uploaded the image, then clicked on the line where it should go, and finally clicked on "Add to Post".

What am I doing wrong?

Finally, I have lots of trouble typing posts and losing many of the typed letters. Is this a known issue?

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#14 sknis

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 04:02 PM

Try selecting mpg2 as the video output. It seems that :
1) We know that WinDVD will not play that blu ray (or any other)
2) VLC plays the blu ray correctly.
3) You seem to have the correct file structure on the disc.
4) We don't know if your blu ray player will play that blu ray perhaps because of the quality. of the media. Did you update the firmware on the player?

Can you take the disc to a neighbor or to a big box store to see if it will play at one of those places.

Exactly what Panasonic blu ray player do you have? What firmware version?

I can't think of anything else at this point. Perhaps others have a suggestion.

Edited by sknis, 15 June 2014 - 04:05 PM.

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Posted 17 June 2014 - 06:47 AM

Nothing more to ADD but as Steve is aiming, often the 'better' Players have more trouble with burned media :o

You should get an RE Disc if you don't have one already... I have never had any issues with the RE's in my 3 Players but it is possible they are harder to read due to the erasable dye they use ;)

(NEVER use them for anything you value as they do fade and become unreadable)

And as Steve noted, 'WinDVD' will not Play any BD Movies or any Commercial DVD's! I didn't even bother to install it...




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