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#1 elcaminojoe

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 11:43 AM

Hi - I just got Easy Media Creator 8 set up on my computer and I'm trying to figure out how to force music to start somewhere in my video other than at the first clip - say, 5 seconds into the first video clip.  In EMC 7.5 there was a way to view the timeline and drag the music starting point to something other than the very first clip.  That doesn't seem to work in EMC 8.  Text in the EMC 8 help window says an audio editor exists and even provides a graphic with a nice looking slide bar, but I can't figure out how to get into it (the help text forgot to tell you how to open the audio editor - BAD DOCUMENTATION, Roxio!  :)  ).  I wasted two hours last night trying to figure it out.

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 12:27 PM

View Postelcaminojoe, on Sep 12 2006, 03:43 PM, said:

Hi - I just got Easy Media Creator 8 set up on my computer and I'm trying to figure out how to force music to start somewhere in my video other than at the first clip - say, 5 seconds into the first video clip. In EMC 7.5 there was a way to view the timeline and drag the music starting point to something other than the very first clip. That doesn't seem to work in EMC 8. Text in the EMC 8 help window says an audio editor exists and even provides a graphic with a nice looking slide bar, but I can't figure out how to get into it (the help text forgot to tell you how to open the audio editor - BAD DOCUMENTATION, Roxio! :) ). I wasted two hours last night trying to figure it out.

Are you talking about moving the "starting point of the native audio track"? If yes then that point cannot be moved but you can mute the the first 5 seconds. You cannot move the starting point of native audio in EMC 7.5 either.
If you are talking about moving the starting point of one of the audio tracks that you added theat is easily done by just dragging the audio clip until the starting point is where you want it.

There is a work-around to "move" the native audio.
1- extract the native audio to a wav file.
2- mute the native audio track
3- drag the extracted wav file to one of the audio tracks at the point where you want it.

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#3 elcaminojoe

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 01:47 PM

View Postelcaminojoe, on Sep 12 2006, 11:43 AM, said:

Hi - I just got Easy Media Creator 8 set up on my computer and I'm trying to figure out how to force music to start somewhere in my video other than at the first clip - say, 5 seconds into the first video clip.  In EMC 7.5 there was a way to view the timeline and drag the music starting point to something other than the very first clip.  That doesn't seem to work in EMC 8.  Text in the EMC 8 help window says an audio editor exists and even provides a graphic with a nice looking slide bar, but I can't figure out how to get into it (the help text forgot to tell you how to open the audio editor - BAD DOCUMENTATION, Roxio!  :)  ).  I wasted two hours last night trying to figure it out.

The native audio - I'm just going to mute that and/or overrun it with the music I dub in.  What I want to do is adjust the starting point for the audio (music) that I bring in.  When I do as you suggest, it only plays the audio during the single frame.  I want it to start in that second frame and then continue on through all subsequent frames.  There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that.

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Posted 12 September 2006 - 07:44 PM

View Postelcaminojoe, on Sep 12 2006, 05:47 PM, said:

The native audio - I'm just going to mute that and/or overrun it with the music I dub in. What I want to do is adjust the starting point for the audio (music) that I bring in. When I do as you suggest, it only plays the audio during the single frame. I want it to start in that second frame and then continue on through all subsequent frames. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that.


Switch to the timeline and simply drag the audio to one of the audio tracks where you can then move it to start at the 2nd panel.
Perhaps you are adding the audio to the internal track of the 1st panel in which case it will only play during the first panel.

Edited by myguggi, 12 September 2006 - 07:45 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2006 - 09:18 AM

View Postelcaminojoe, on Sep 12 2006, 01:47 PM, said:

The native audio - I'm just going to mute that and/or overrun it with the music I dub in.  What I want to do is adjust the starting point for the audio (music) that I bring in.  When I do as you suggest, it only plays the audio during the single frame.  I want it to start in that second frame and then continue on through all subsequent frames.  There doesn't seem to be an easy way to do that.

I think I figured out a rather brute-force solution to my problem.  Using the DVD recorder in my sterio system, I will record 10 to 20 seconds of silence on a CD.  Then I will download that "silence" to my computer, give it the title "silence", and then bring it in at the start of my video clips.  The next musical clip will start after that.  I know how to shorten the length of the audio at the start of a show, so I can adjust the length of the silence to whatever is necesary.

There has to be a more elegant way to handle this.  Anyone from Roxio reading these posts?

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 09:23 AM

View Postelcaminojoe, on Sep 13 2006, 01:18 PM, said:

I think I figured out a rather brute-force solution to my problem. Using the DVD recorder in my sterio system, I will record 10 to 20 seconds of silence on a CD. Then I will download that "silence" to my computer, give it the title "silence", and then bring it in at the start of my video clips. The next musical clip will start after that. I know how to shorten the length of the audio at the start of a show, so I can adjust the length of the silence to whatever is necesary.

There has to be a more elegant way to handle this. Anyone from Roxio reading these posts?

I described a very simple way to do it? Did you even try it?
Or perhaps I can't understand what you are really trying to do.

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 01:07 PM

View Postmyguggi, on Sep 13 2006, 09:23 AM, said:

I described a very simple way to do it? Did you even try it?
Or perhaps I can't understand what you are really trying to do.

I assume you're referring to when you said "that is easily done by just dragging the audio clip until the starting point is where you want it."  The thing is, in the video assembly mode (when you have all the thumbnails and transitions showing), there isn't anything in the display that you can drag.  Nothing shows to indicate an audio clip.  The only way I know an audo clip is there is to play the video, then you can hear the music.  Do you know how to click on some button or item in a drop menu which will cause something to appear which shows where the music starts?

In the timeline mode, you can see little circles connected by a line which indicates where the music audio starts and ends, but you can't drag it to change where the music starts like you could in EMC 7.5

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 02:49 PM

View Postelcaminojoe, on Sep 13 2006, 05:07 PM, said:

I assume you're referring to when you said "that is easily done by just dragging the audio clip until the starting point is where you want it." The thing is, in the video assembly mode (when you have all the thumbnails and transitions showing), there isn't anything in the display that you can drag. Nothing shows to indicate an audio clip. The only way I know an audo clip is there is to play the video, then you can hear the music. Do you know how to click on some button or item in a drop menu which will cause something to appear which shows where the music starts?

In the timeline mode, you can see little circles connected by a line which indicates where the music audio starts and ends, but you can't drag it to change where the music starts like you could in EMC 7.5


You can only move the audio clip when you are in the timeline mode. Can you see the various audio tracks in the timeline mode? Have you added your audio to one of these audio tracks?

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Posted 13 September 2006 - 05:08 PM

View Postmyguggi, on Sep 13 2006, 02:49 PM, said:

You can only move the audio clip when you are in the timeline mode. Can you see the various audio tracks in the timeline mode? Have you added your audio to one of these audio tracks?

Thanks - I only have one track added at this time.  Yes, I can see it - it's called 04 Water.wma.   I just tried repeated clicks on the small circle that marks the start of "04 water.wma" and it seems to only want to move in increments of what is about only 0.1 seconds.  In other words, I would have to repeat this attempt to drag it to the right something like 50 times to get it to move f seconds from the start of the video.  Seems pretty inefficient - I would probably give myself carpel tunnel syndrome if I wanted to move it 20 seconds!  In EMC 7.5, all it took was one drag and it moved anywhere I wanted it.  I wonder if I have insufficient RAM memory in my machine - I only have 512 meg.  I've been thinking about increasing the memory.

I'm going to check the Roxio updates section to see if maybe I need a software patch.  Will check for your response soon.

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 02:58 AM

View Postelcaminojoe, on Sep 13 2006, 05:08 PM, said:

Thanks - I only have one track added at this time.  Yes, I can see it - it's called 04 Water.wma.   I just tried repeated clicks on the small circle that marks the start of "04 water.wma" and it seems to only want to move in increments of what is about only 0.1 seconds.  In other words, I would have to repeat this attempt to drag it to the right something like 50 times to get it to move f seconds from the start of the video.  Seems pretty inefficient - I would probably give myself carpel tunnel syndrome if I wanted to move it 20 seconds!  In EMC 7.5, all it took was one drag and it moved anywhere I wanted it.  I wonder if I have insufficient RAM memory in my machine - I only have 512 meg.  I've been thinking about increasing the memory.

I'm going to check the Roxio updates section to see if maybe I need a software patch.  Will check for your response soon.
Typo in what I wrote above instead of " attempt to drag it to the right something like 50 times to get it to move f seconds from the start of the video "  it should have said "attempt to drag it to the right something like 50 times to get it to move five seconds from the start of the video."




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