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[elcaminojoe]

I have a video presentation that I want to accompany with music.  When I import the music in the story line mode, its start defaults to the start of the first video clip.  I want the music to start 5 seconds into the first clip when I burn everything to a DVD.  However, when I go into timeline mode, and I put the cursor over the little circle marking the start of the music, I can only drag the music over in very slow time increments, on the order of .05 seconds.  I have to repeatedly attempt to drag the starting point - something like 30 or 40 times - just to get it 2 seconds over.  This doesn't seem to be working right - in EMC 7.5, I just had to click on the start of the music once, hold down the mouse button, and I could promptly drag it anywhere I wanted.

[grandpabruce]

elcaminojoe, on Sep 14 2006, 11:51 AM, said:

I have a video presentation that I want to accompany with music.  When I import the music in the story line mode, its start defaults to the start of the first video clip.  I want the music to start 5 seconds into the first clip when I burn everything to a DVD.  However, when I go into timeline mode, and I put the cursor over the little circle marking the start of the music, I can only drag the music over in very slow time increments, on the order of .05 seconds.  I have to repeatedly attempt to drag the starting point - something like 30 or 40 times - just to get it 2 seconds over.  This doesn't seem to be working right - in EMC 7.5, I just had to click on the start of the music once, hold down the mouse button, and I could promptly drag it anywhere I wanted.

I think that with all the troubles you are having, you need to post your computer specs, in your signature.  It sounds like old horses to me.

[elcaminojoe]

grandpabruce, on Sep 14 2006, 09:08 AM, said:

I think that with all the troubles you are having, you need to post your computer specs, in your signature.  It sounds like old horses to me.

Sounds like a good idea.  I'll try to do it tonight.  After I get the specs posted, any recommendations for upgrades would be welcome.

I do know that my home machine is a Dell Dimension 4600 with 512 meg SDRAM and it's only 2 years 10 months old.  I recently updated my hard drive to a Seagate 250 gig hard drive   It may be that my graphics card is a bit out of date.

[sknis]

elcaminojoe, on Sep 14 2006, 12:59 PM, said:

Sounds like a good idea. I'll try to do it tonight. After I get the specs posted, any recommendations for upgrades would be welcome.

I do know that my home machine is a Dell Dimension 4600 with 512 meg SDRAM and it's only 2 years 10 months old. I recently updated my hard drive to a Seagate 250 gig hard drive It may be that my graphics card is a bit out of date.

Wow, that model Dell could have any one of about 10 video devices so it will be difficult to point you to the right place without more information.

Go to Windows> Start> Run and type in dxdiag and then click on run.  On the first tab, what do you see for DirectX should be version 9 with a letter and a bunch of numbers.  Now go to the display tab and post here what it says about your video set up. Look at this image.

[elcaminojoe]

sknis, on Sep 14 2006, 10:17 AM, said:

Wow, that model Dell could have any one of about 10 video devices so it will be difficult to point you to the right place without more information.

Go to Windows> Start> Run and type in dxdiag and then click on run.  On the first tab, what do you see for DirectX should be version 9 with a letter and a bunch of numbers.  Now go to the display tab and post here what it says about your video set up. Look at this image.

Thanks - I remember the video device that I got was pretty cheap, but I'll check as you said.  BTW - I've located where the signature is and this is the first post I have with something in it.  We'll see if it works.

[elcaminojoe]

sknis, on Sep 14 2006, 10:17 AM, said:

Wow, that model Dell could have any one of about 10 video devices so it will be difficult to point you to the right place without more information.

Go to Windows> Start> Run and type in dxdiag and then click on run.  On the first tab, what do you see for DirectX should be version 9 with a letter and a bunch of numbers.  Now go to the display tab and post here what it says about your video set up. Look at this image.

I made a text file of the information.  I may have copied too much here, but I figured too much was better than too little.
------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 9/14/2006, 21:15:39
       Machine name: TIM-M6RTF8HT4HU
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
       System Model: Dimension 4600              
               BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A06
          Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.66GHz
             Memory: 510MB RAM
          Page File: 339MB used, 909MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce FX 5200
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0322&SUBSYS_01B910DE&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 128.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0001.4354 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/24/2003 17:58:00, 3119466 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 4/24/2003 17:58:00, 1271706 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4062-11CF-6C62-B82100C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0322
        SubSys ID: 0x01B910DE
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
                   {212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
                   {212DC722-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,2) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {212DC723-3235-44A4-BD29-E1652BBCC71C}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_MedianFiltering
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

[Larry]

elcaminojoe, on Sep 14 2006, 08:24 PM, said:

I made a text file of the information....................
---------------
Display Devices
---------------
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce FX 5200
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0322&SUBSYS_01B910DE&REV_A1
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0001.4354 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/24/2003 17:58:00, 3119466 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 4/24/2003 17:58:00, 1271706 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4062-11CF-6C62-B82100C2CB35}

That's an extremely old driver. You need to update it. Either go to the Dell site and download an updated one, or go direct to the Nvidia site and get the latest one. Remember to follow the install instructions.

[elcaminojoe]

Larry, on Sep 14 2006, 05:51 PM, said:

That's an extremely old driver. You need to update it. Either go to the Dell site and download an updated one, or go direct to the Nvidia site and get the latest one. Remember to follow the install instructions.

I did an overnight download of the drivers (darn that slow dial-up internet!).  I installed the drivers this morning - the screen said the update was successful but I did get one error message that one .dll file was missing.  I'm assuming it's not essential since the screen menu said the update was successful.  I didn't have time to see if the video editor was any faster - I'll check that out tonight.

I wasn't aware that the drivers for graphics cards could get out of date.  I wonder if this is a well -publicized fact.

[sknis]

elcaminojoe, on Sep 15 2006, 09:23 AM, said:

I did an overnight download of the drivers (darn that slow dial-up internet!). I installed the drivers this morning - the screen said the update was successful but I did get one error message that one .dll file was missing. I'm assuming it's not essential since the screen menu said the update was successful. I didn't have time to see if the video editor was any faster - I'll check that out tonight.
I wasn't aware that the drivers for graphics cards could get out of date. I wonder if this is a well -publicized fact.

On this site it is ! Many people cannot run V 8 at all with old drivers and many people don't believe us when we tell them how important they are. Now go to VideoWave and select tools (along the top), then options and run the rendering test. If the little dot was next to software, it should have moved to hardware. If it stayed in hardware, that is OK. Good luck; things should go faster now.

Just a general note for best practices.  Video work takes a lot of CPU energy so don't have anything else running when you are doing videos - that includes anti-spy ware and anti-virus (disconnect from that slow dial up before you do that).  Make sure that you have plenty of defragged free space on you hard drive.  Use Windows to set your computer to best performance and not best appearance and set you virtual memory correctly (one times you actual memory to 1 1/2 to 2 times your actual at the high end.

Edited by sknis, 15 September 2006 - 02:39 PM.

[elcaminojoe]

elcaminojoe, on Sep 15 2006, 06:23 AM, said:

I did an overnight download of the drivers (darn that slow dial-up internet!).  I installed the drivers this morning - the screen said the update was successful but I did get one error message that one .dll file was missing.  I'm assuming it's not essential since the screen menu said the update was successful.  I didn't have time to see if the video editor was any faster - I'll check that out tonight.

I wasn't aware that the drivers for graphics cards could get out of date.  I wonder if this is a well -publicized fact.

O.k. - I installed the new drivers, and a much newer date shows when I run dxdiag.  Here's the specs:

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce FX 5200
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0322&SUBSYS_01B910DE&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 128.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9147 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/11/2006 21:42:52, 4496128 bytes

However, dragging the starting point for the music is still slower than molases!  Just for kicks, I started EMC 7.5 and started the Video Wave application.  I went into the timeline mode and I could easily drag the little circle marking the start of the music to anywhere I wanted.  Something is fishy here.  Why woudl the feature work in 7.5 and not 8?  I wonder if my EMC 8 software is missing a subroutine or two?  Should I try reloading the entire program?

Interesting thing here that supports the idea that my software is bad  is that there was at least one capability in 7.5 that I don't have in 8 - editing native audio.  In Video Wave 7.5, there's a little icon over the story line that looks like a pencil drawing on a frame of film, and the caption says "Select an Editor to Modify the Selected Item".  When I click on it, three options appear: Adjust, Edit native audio, and Motion pictures.  In Video Wave 8, when I have a clip of original video in the story line and I click on the same icon, the following caption appears: "View Settings to Modify the Selected Item" and only one option appears: "pan and zoom editor."  What happened to edit native audio?  In 7.5, editing native audio had all kinds of neat features like displaying the sound grapically, adjusting the volumes at various frequencies, etc.  I thought EMC 8 was supposed to have all the features of 7.5?

Maybe if I just go ahead and buy EMC 9, the problems will go away, but I kind of hate to do that since I just bought EMC 8 a month or two ago.  Also, will EMC 9 have the same bugs?

[grandpabruce]

elcaminojoe, on Sep 15 2006, 05:41 PM, said:

O.k. - I installed the new drivers, and a much newer date shows when I run dxdiag.  Here's the specs:

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce FX 5200
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0322&SUBSYS_01B910DE&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 128.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9147 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/11/2006 21:42:52, 4496128 bytes

However, dragging the starting point for the music is still slower than molases!  Just for kicks, I started EMC 7.5 and started the Video Wave application.  I went into the timeline mode and I could easily drag the little circle marking the start of the music to anywhere I wanted.  Something is fishy here.  Why woudl the feature work in 7.5 and not 8?  I wonder if my EMC 8 software is missing a subroutine or two?  Should I try reloading the entire program?

Interesting thing here that supports the idea that my software is bad  is that there was at least one capability in 7.5 that I don't have in 8 - editing native audio.  In Video Wave 7.5, there's a little icon over the story line that looks like a pencil drawing on a frame of film, and the caption says "Select an Editor to Modify the Selected Item".  When I click on it, three options appear: Adjust, Edit native audio, and Motion pictures.  In Video Wave 8, when I have a clip of original video in the story line and I click on the same icon, the following caption appears: "View Settings to Modify the Selected Item" and only one option appears: "pan and zoom editor."  What happened to edit native audio?  In 7.5, editing native audio had all kinds of neat features like displaying the sound grapically, adjusting the volumes at various frequencies, etc.  I thought EMC 8 was supposed to have all the features of 7.5?

Maybe if I just go ahead and buy EMC 9, the problems will go away, but I kind of hate to do that since I just bought EMC 8 a month or two ago.  Also, will EMC 9 have the same bugs?

What monitor do you have?  My monitors have an .inf file available to work properly with any video card.  Some say that an .inf file is not necessary, but I found that to not be true.

If you are having problems of the nature that you have posted, then EMC 9 will not cure them.  EMC 8 and EMC 9 both rely on the video card, heavily, in many of the programs.  If there is a problem with 8, there will more than likely be a problem in 9.

Edited by grandpabruce, 15 September 2006 - 02:52 PM.

[elcaminojoe]

grandpabruce, on Sep 15 2006, 02:52 PM, said:

What monitor do you have?  My monitors have an .inf file available to work properly with any video card.  Some say that an .inf file is not necessary, but I found that to not be true.

If you are having problems of the nature that you have posted, then EMC 9 will not cure them.  EMC 8 and EMC 9 both rely on the video card, heavily, in many of the programs.  If there is a problem with 8, there will more than likely be a problem in 9.

Like my signature file says, I have a 19" monitor.  It's made by Dell.  Don't know why that would matter - the fact that the drag feature works in 7.5 and not in 8 would indicate that it's something other than the monitor.  I've never heard of a .inf file - how do I find out what I have?

When you say video card, is that the same as a graphics card?  The graphics card in my computer looks pretty primitive.  I went to the Crucial web site and it says there are three upgrades that would work for me - the two best are a Radeon x1300 256MB AGP and a Radeon x1600 512 AGP.  I'm thinking about ordering the 256 MB one tomorrow.  I already ordered a GIG of additional SDRAM - maybe that will help me too.

[myguggi]

elcaminojoe, on Sep 17 2006, 12:32 AM, said:

Like my signature file says, I have a 19" monitor. It's made by Dell. Don't know why that would matter - the fact that the drag feature works in 7.5 and not in 8 would indicate that it's something other than the monitor. I've never heard of a .inf file - how do I find out what I have?

When you say video card, is that the same as a graphics card? The graphics card in my computer looks pretty primitive. I went to the Crucial web site and it says there are three upgrades that would work for me - the two best are a Radeon x1300 256MB AGP and a Radeon x1600 512 AGP. I'm thinking about ordering the 256 MB one tomorrow. I already ordered a GIG of additional SDRAM - maybe that will help me too.

There is nothing wrong with the video card you have, I have the same one in an even slower DELL system and everything works fine. There has to be something else on your system that is causing your problems.

[elcaminojoe]

myguggi, on Sep 17 2006, 06:49 AM, said:

There is nothing wrong with the video card you have, I have the same one in an even slower DELL system and everything works fine. There has to be something else on your system that is causing your problems.

O.k. - I see it now in your system description - it shows you have the same graphics card as I do.  Maybe it has to do with this .inf file you mentioned in a previous post.  How do I go about finding out more about .inf files?  How do I check if my system has one?

elcaminojoe, on Sep 17 2006, 04:47 PM, said:

O.k. - I see it now in your system description - it shows you have the same graphics card as I do.  Maybe it has to do with this .inf file you mentioned in a previous post.  How do I go about finding out more about .inf files?  How do I check if my system has one?

I just thought about something else to add which may be pertinent - my video wave 8 program keeps hanging up when I am editing a video and I have a media palette displayed above.  I can drag a video or photo down into the video I'm composing, but if I try to move the slider up or down to the right of my video, the whole program hangs up and the only way to get out of it is to push the off button on my Dell.  Cntl Alt Del has no effect.