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Posted 18 September 2006 - 06:23 PM

I just bought a new external dvd burner made by Mad Dog. After several tries I am unable to create a dvd. I set up the project ok (nothing fancy, just video files) and early during the encoding process the system errors out and shuts down. I've gotten two errors, one a Dr Watson, another apologizing but saying Video Wave has to shut down. And then it does. I've tried to make the same dvd several times and it has crashed during the encoding of either the first, second or third file. Will this not work on my system? My HP Pavilion is a few years old. Here's the specs.

XP Home Edition (5.1 build 2600)
Processor - AMD Athalon XP 2600+, MMX, 3dNow, ~2.1ghz
448 gb ram
Directx 9.0c
Nvidia geforce4 mx integrated gpu 64.0mb
Integrated ramdac
Hard Drive 100 g with 55 g free.

Ok, if these specs are too weak to run Easy Media Creator 8.2, is there another peice of software available that will run on my system? I'm not looking to do anything fancy. Just burn some dvds. No real editing or fancy menus or anything like that.

Thanks!

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 06:54 PM

View Postzenner22, on Sep 19 2006, 02:23 PM, said:

I just bought a new external dvd burner made by Mad Dog. After several tries I am unable to create a dvd. I set up the project ok (nothing fancy, just video files) and early during the encoding process the system errors out and shuts down. I've gotten two errors, one a Dr Watson, another apologizing but saying Video Wave has to shut down. And then it does. I've tried to make the same dvd several times and it has crashed during the encoding of either the first, second or third file. Will this not work on my system? My HP Pavilion is a few years old. Here's the specs.

XP Home Edition (5.1 build 2600)
Processor - AMD Athalon XP 2600+, MMX, 3dNow, ~2.1ghz
448 gb ram
Directx 9.0c
Nvidia geforce4 mx integrated gpu 64.0mb
Integrated ramdac
Hard Drive 100 g with 55 g free.

Ok, if these specs are too weak to run Easy Media Creator 8.2, is there another peice of software available that will run on my system? I'm not looking to do anything fancy. Just burn some dvds. No real editing or fancy menus or anything like that.

Thanks!


Hi zenner22,
Although your computer is a few years old, it should run EMC8 ok, but there are a few items on your system you need to check,
has the computer got an on board video card? (ie: is the video port that your monitor plugs into in line on the back of the pc with the usb and lpt porrts , or is it located on the slots that run directly parral to these plugs?, see the attched picture)

If the video is onboard then you will have a hard time doing video editing or capture or the likes with the video card as they run at a limited speed and capabilities,
and also having 448 ram is a little weak to fully run the cashing of infomation in the memory before the DVD drive burns it.
its a hard call on your system im sorry, but in theory it should

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 07:04 PM

View PostDr Who, on Sep 18 2006, 06:54 PM, said:

Hi zenner22,
Although your computer is a few years old, it should run EMC8 ok, but there are a few items on your system you need to check,
has the computer got an on board video card? (ie: is the video port that your monitor plugs into in line on the back of the pc with the usb and lpt porrts , or is it located on the slots that run directly parral to these plugs?, see the attched picture)

If the video is onboard then you will have a hard time doing video editing or capture or the likes with the video card as they run at a limited speed and capabilities,
and also having 448 ram is a little weak to fully run the cashing of infomation in the memory before the DVD drive burns it.
its a hard call on your system im sorry, but in theory it should

Thanks for the reply, complete with a picture! My card seems to be integrated. You think if I added another 512 stick of ram it would do the trick or would I have to upgrade the video card too? Just trying to price things out. Wondering if it's worth it or if I need a new system...

And do you think I'd be able to use different video software and just not Creator 8.2? Or do I have to face facts that this system won't be able to record dvds?

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 07:15 PM

View Postzenner22, on Sep 18 2006, 11:04 PM, said:

Thanks for the reply, complete with a picture! My card seems to be integrated. You think if I added another 512 stick of ram it would do the trick or would I have to upgrade the video card too? Just trying to price things out. Wondering if it's worth it or if I need a new system...

And do you think I'd be able to use different video software and just not Creator 8.2? Or do I have to face facts that this system won't be able to record dvds?


I think the fact that your integrated video controller has only 64MB might be causing you the problems.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 03:41 AM

View Postmyguggi, on Sep 18 2006, 07:15 PM, said:

I think the fact that your integrated video controller has only 64MB might be causing you the problems.


As a follow up, I installed Media Creator 8 on my laptop which is about a year old and plenty powerful to burn dvds. The laptop has a dvd burner and has successfully burned dvds in the past using sonic software. I run into the same problem: I start the project in My DVD, add files and burn. As soon as it starts encoding, the program freezes up and I have to hit End Task to get out of it. This happened several times. I don't have the specs of the laptop in front of me right now, but wanted to post my findings. I'm wondering there's a problem with the software.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 04:56 AM

View Postmyguggi, on Sep 18 2006, 10:15 PM, said:

I think the fact that your integrated video controller has only 64MB might be causing you the problems.
I think it's caused more by it being an onboard and not fully compatible with directx9. I have been using an Nvidia GeForce4 MX 440 video card with only 64mb and both V8 & V9 have worked for me (albeit slow). A new video card, at minimum, is needed for this OP's desktop. I don't think throwing more RAM in is going to help.

View Postzenner22, on Sep 19 2006, 06:41 AM, said:

As a follow up, I installed Media Creator 8 on my laptop which is about a year old and plenty powerful to burn dvds. The laptop has a dvd burner and has successfully burned dvds in the past using sonic software. I run into the same problem: I start the project in My DVD, add files and burn. As soon as it starts encoding, the program freezes up and I have to hit End Task to get out of it. This happened several times. I don't have the specs of the laptop in front of me right now, but wanted to post my findings. I'm wondering there's a problem with the software.
Could be the video on that laptop needs a driver update also.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 05:05 AM

View PostLarry, on Sep 19 2006, 04:56 AM, said:

I think it's caused more by it being an onboard and not fully compatible with directx9. I have been using an Nvidia GeForce4 MX 440 video card with only 64mb and both V8 & V9 have worked for me (albeit slow). A new video card, at minimum, is needed for this OP's desktop. I don't think throwing more RAM in is going to help.

Could be the video on that laptop needs a driver update also.

I actually checked that last night. It's an ATI Radeon xpress. The HP website had no update I hadn't already installed and I couldn't even find where to update drivers on the ATI website.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 06:21 AM

List the display adapter. Start, accessories, system tools, system information, click the + next to components, click display. On the right
should list all your display info and the driver version. Please post.

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 08:21 AM

View Postcdanteek, on Sep 19 2006, 06:21 AM, said:

List the display adapter. Start, accessories, system tools, system information, click the + next to components, click display. On the right
should list all your display info and the driver version. Please post.

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Ok here's the info... and there's a lot of it! This is for my laptop HP ZV6000. This is a good system. I wouldn't think it's abilities would be taxed too much by dvd Creator.

CPU - amd athalon 64 processor 3200+, mmx, 3dnow, ~2.0ghz
ram - 1022mb
directx 9.0c

Name ATI MOBILITY RADEON Xpress 200 Series
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_5955&SUBSYS_3085103C&REV_00\4&2C0D4F31&0&2808
Adapter Type ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M Series (0x5955), ATI Technologies Inc. compatible
Adapter Description ATI MOBILITY RADEON Xpress 200 Series
Adapter RAM 128.00 MB (134,217,728 bytes)
Installed Drivers ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.6561
INF File oem5.inf (ati2mtag_RS480M section)
Color Planes 1
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1280 x 800 x 60 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xC0000000-0xCFFFFFFF
I/O Port 0x00009000-0x00009FFF
Memory Address 0xB0100000-0xB01FFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 17
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\ati2mtag.sys (6.14.10.6561, 1.21 MB (1,273,344 bytes), 4/1/2005 5:02 AM)

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Posted 19 September 2006 - 12:56 PM

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I couldn't even find where to update drivers on the ATI website.


Your right they show no support for HP notebooks and 200m series.

From HP website
HP Pavilion zv6000 CTO Notebook PC

ATI Radeon Xpress 200M Series Graphics Driver

09-2005 8.162-050803a2-025906C A » Version
37.66M

HP Pavilion zv6000 Notebook PC

ATI Radeon Xpress 200M Series Graphics Driver

09-2005 8.162-050803a2-025906C A » Version
37.66M

Here is a old post regarding the 200 Series Graphics Driver.
His was a Desk Top PC and a different problem. After a long fight
HP found him a older driver that worked.

I agree with the folks above the onboard integrated graphics seem to cause users here most problems.

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...0\.0\.

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Posted 23 September 2006 - 08:53 PM

Ok here's a follow up. After installing Easy Media Creator 8 on a year old HP laptop which has recorded dvds in the past, the same errors happened during encoding. Frustrated, I took the Mad Dog drive with EMC 8 back and purchased a HP external dvd recorder which came with Nero. Nero works perfectly in both my old and new systems, no problems. Whether it's HP or video card incompatibility, EMC failed to work in my systems. However, Nero works fine. This isn't a bash on EMC, just something that may help people with similar problems. Thanks for the quick replies. Everyone here was extremely helpful.
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 08:44 PM

:) Roxio EMC 8 is CRAP !
Crashes all the time and is a huge resource hog.

I got suckered into upgrading from 6 which worked ok for what I was using it for. I wanted double layer burning which 6 didn't support.

I have installed EMC 8 on both AMD 2.4Ghz Athlon, 1 gig ram, ATI and Dual (dual) Xenon3.0 Ghz, 2gig ram, Nvidia. The program brings both boxes to it knees. I watch the resources disappear and performance hit the floor. It's not anything specific about the computer that's for sure.

Wished I had tested this before....
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Posted 24 September 2006 - 09:18 PM

View Posttpm, on Sep 25 2006, 12:44 AM, said:

:) Roxio EMC 8 is CRAP !
Crashes all the time and is a huge resource hog.

I got suckered into upgrading from 6 which worked ok for what I was using it for. I wanted double layer burning which 6 didn't support.

I have installed EMC 8 on both AMD 2.4Ghz Athlon, 1 gig ram, ATI and Dual (dual) Xenon3.0 Ghz, 2gig ram, Nvidia. The program brings both boxes to it knees. I watch the resources disappear and performance hit the floor. It's not anything specific about the computer that's for sure.

Wished I had tested this before....


Perhaps if you at least try to tell us what problems you are having, someone might try to help you.

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 10:06 PM

View Postmyguggi, on Sep 24 2006, 09:18 PM, said:

Perhaps if you at least try to tell us what problems you are having, someone might try to help you.


Just did.... read the previous post. I was looking for solutions, but after reading all the problems everyone else is having, it's like re-living the frustrations.

Granite EMC is fairly easy to understand how to use, but it is not the same as "easy to use". The programs are so slow and instable you may end up doing a project over many times (or a lot of Saves) before completing like I have in audio and video.

The workstation I am on now is a screamer HP xw8000 3Ghz, 2gig ram, high end Nvidia 128meg video, 4 scsi 75Gig 15K harddrives in raid. Still EMC 8 makes it hang.

Hahahaha... you can tell others it's their hardware, but we know the real truth eh?
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Posted 25 September 2006 - 04:38 AM

View Posttpm, on Sep 25 2006, 01:06 AM, said:

Just did.... read the previous post. I was looking for solutions, but after reading all the problems everyone else is having, it's like re-living the frustrations.

Granite EMC is fairly easy to understand how to use, but it is not the same as "easy to use". The programs are so slow and instable you may end up doing a project over many times (or a lot of Saves) before completing like I have in audio and video.

The workstation I am on now is a screamer HP xw8000 3Ghz, 2gig ram, high end Nvidia 128meg video, 4 scsi 75Gig 15K harddrives in raid. Still EMC 8 makes it hang.

Hahahaha... you can tell others it's their hardware, but we know the real truth eh?


We don't work for Roxio. We are only users who are trying to help other users.

Turn off RoxWatch, first. You can do that by going to Start/Run and type in msconfig. On the startup tab, uncheck every Roxio service, including Drag to Disc, if you installed it. Reboot, and see if things are better.
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