Ever since I went to Toast 11 there have been problems. Now I have a new one (problem that is). Since the latest update that was a total ball-ache to get installed, Toast 11 will not launch, and just hangs. I have to Force Quit. Toast 10 never gave me any real problems, and I've now gone back to using 10. I will do the usual trashing of prefs etc - I think I already did this actually - and report back. Will try the Safe Mode thing as well - forgot about that one - thanks.