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  1. So my .toast image mounted is no longer playing in Vlc. It just crashes. I have the in the converted items folder an mv2 which plays the video quit nicely, and is I assume in the ntsc format I desire. Can I extract the audio from the mpeg file, and combine the two so that sound is in synch? I have no idea how to do that and whether toast will do it, or quicktime, or what other program I would need, and to what format I should write it too. This is really pushing the envelope.
  2. Hi Tsantee, I have been away for a few days, and so I have not had the chance to thank you for all the help you have given me so far. I do appreciate it and it is valuable. I am fooling around with the files and will let you know if I have any success. If you find something, please let me know.
  3. I tried to add that codec, but I must be doing something wrong, because there is still no sound. Do you drop the whole folder in there suggested destinations, or do you unpack the contents and add one thing and then a folder? What sound could I use that streamclip would create and quicktime can use? aiff? You are right the sound file from mpeg is much larger than the m2v from converted items, in terms of duration. Pretty much hopeless, but I have not stopped trying yet. CAn't I uncompress them and change them to match?
  4. Thanks for getting back to me. Is there something I can use to make the audio fit the video? Where can I get what I need to make quicktime play ac3 and what is it that I am looking for?
  5. Weirder and weirder. The icon for the converted items file does indeed say mp2 but extension is m2v. And its size surely indicates it would be both sound and video. Size in finder is 7.64 gigs. Here are its details from streamclip: Type: MPEG elementary stream Duration: 3:14:04 Data Size: 8.17 GB Bit Rate: 6.02 Mbps Video Tracks: 224 MPEG-2, 720 × 480, 4:3, 29.97 fps, 6.50 Mbps, upper field first Audio Tracks: Notice the difference in data size and the size of the file listed in finder. I wonder if I change the extension to mp2 it will turn into an audio file? I am thinking of using streamclip to demux the .toast file to an ac3, and then using that and the converted items m2v file (because that one plays steady) and putting them together somehow. But I can not let toast just do it, or it will be out of synch. I also need to cut out the first vob, and part of the next, as they are relics of a menu which does not work. I imagine that then I would have to cut part of the audio, also. To accomplish all this I am going to need room. I have an external drive which was DOS and the file structure seems to have been lost to the point where OSX can not read it. ( Seems to be a recurring problem with usb devices) There is data on it that I want, but I want to finish this nightmare. So I am anxious to hear your advice, before I continue.
  6. Forgot the other info of what I have now. I noticed the bit rate is different on these. Duration: 0:25:10 Data Size: 1008.28 MB Bit Rate: 5.60 Mbps
  7. Hi Tsantee. Here is the info, I hope. Will start with what toast turned the mpeg which was converted with stream clip into. So we are going backwards just because I have to find the disc with the orginal. Others are on hard drive. So this is what I have now that is out of synch: Video Tracks: 224 MPEG-2, 720 × 480, 4:3, 29.97 fps, 6.50 Mbps, upper field first Audio Tracks: 128 AC3 2/0, 48 kHz, 224 kbps This is what the mpeg streamclip created from the orginal is : Duration: 3:14:03 Data Size: 4.22 GB Bit Rate: 3.11 Mbps Video Tracks: 224 MPEG-2, 720 × 576, 4:3, 25 fps, 6.50 Mbps, upper field first Audio Tracks: 128 AC3 2/0, 48 kHz, 224 kbps This is what the orginal I have is: But remember orginal did not play continously and had some pauses even on computer. I thought the breaks in timecode would fix that. And indeed the mpeg created by streamclip does play well and all is in synch. Duration: 0:00:03 Data Size: 394.42 MB Bit Rate: 861.63 Mbps (?) Video Tracks: 224 MPEG-2, 720 × 576, 4:3, 25 fps, 6.50 Mbps, upper field first Audio Tracks: 128 AC3 2/0, 48 kHz, 224 kbps So that is it. Except I might mention that I am having problems with my quicktime, It is not producing any sound on my computer, but vlc is. I think it is just a problem with qt but I can not find it, although that might make it impossible for me to use that to synch tracks. And synching tracks sounds incrediably difficult.
  8. I am sorry to say that there is no audio in converted items folder, only the mv2. I have no idea what toast did with it. After it got through with the conversion it dumped the spu temp and the dvd folder and everything except the mv2 file. Most disturbing. Should I use streamclip and export to an ac3? But how do I align the two so it is in synch.
  9. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    Horrors. I am laughing at myself. Maybe some things just can't be done. Here is what I have: Last night the .toast image finished. It is 8.7 gigs. In converted items there is only an m2V file 7.6 gigs. I am using vlc to preview the .toast file which is mounted. The video is somewhat jerky, which could be expected, since toast uncompressed a file and filled in the blanks. Maybe this could be accepted but the sound is out of synch. Sound is ahead of video. Orginal menu items were left in as true segments or chapters themselves (they are the type that includes a clip). The good news is that it is in Ntsc format. Another strange thing is happening. Computer is behaving as if I was still encoding. When I click on that converted file the mv2 in finder the spinning ball comes up for a minute before file details are displayed, and this happens everytime not just the first. I am in the view which shows the complete path and directory contents. I will try a re-boot. So I do not know if I can fix the audio /video synch. Maybe running through streamclip again?
  10. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    So I had disc image about 4.5 gigs. I did a .toast image hoping toast would offer to convert Pal. It did not. So I made a mpeg streamline do a mpeg file fixing time breaks. Now I brought that mpeg into toast do a .toast and toast offered to do pal converstion. After 12 hours and toast was almost done it "unexpectedly quit". I had preferences set to not dump converted items, and hoped it would pick up where it left off. there was a 5.5 gig tmp file in converted items. I named the .toast file the same name and it asked if I wanted to replace, I chose yes and toast said there was not enough room, ( I had started with 13 gigs of space. and then I tried again. Toast had dump the temp file, and the thing is starting from the start again. I guess my questions are, is there a better program to use to convert pal? How much room do I need? Three times the size of the file or more? How do I force toast to use the temp file it created? Should I have chose not to use the same name for .toast file. just deleted that one? Used a different name?
  11. btour

    error burning DVD

    I really do not know, but check where you are saving the converted items to, and make sure there is plenty of room there too. You can find out where in preferences. I too have an external drive LaCie, and I find it helpful to always use software to open and close the drawer. A reboot just before writing might help. Toast must have to communicate through OS to the device. There must be a cache issue involved also. I am really just guessing, but the converted items thing and space available had me confused and baffled, until Tsantee explained it to me. Toast won't give a warning sometimes about converted items space, it will just bomb out.
  12. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    Thank you Tsantee. You have given me a lot of valuable information. I doubt that I can help others the way you can though. The temp file is already 7.1 gigs and I imagine it will be 8 before it is done. I still have 9.5 on the hard drive it is going to. I do not know and hope the image file will not be that big. It is only 3 hours and 15 minute long. I should have paid attention to the time to realize it was compressed and left it alone, just using the pal version. So I learned a lot. Now to remember. It would be nice if there were a way to make a temp partition, or empty disc image of a certain size on the hard drive and have toast fit to that. You are right I would not be able to calculate the sizes in the custom section. I am going to be afraid to dump the image, even if I see those browser files in the converted items. They seem to get written really fast for their size. I notice they are usually larger too. Is that correct? So once I see them I can dump the .toast image? Can you tell I am nervous about that but am up against the wall with space issue? At least it forced me to do some house cleaning, and I learned that the size in finder window does not get updated reliably. Now I am motivated to install the new hard drive. Just worried about keeping all the apps installed and migrated properly. I made an error of having too many volumes, and having OS volume too small. I am afraid my 466 processor is too slow for Tiger. I am thinking of using Cc cloner for the migration. Maybe someday I can afford to upgrade the processor, and with new hard drive Toast will really cook.
  13. btour

    error burning DVD

    Not sure of the error number but I get that message too when starting a burn. Has not happened at finialize yet. Usually for me it is a space thing.
  14. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    Aww the see the situation regarding file size. As you pointed out, the time of the content is 3 hours and 14 minutes, even though it came from one disc, when run through streamclip to create the mpeg. So what was compressed somehow got uncompressed? Yikes. Now I will have to compress it, as you point out to fit on one disc. It could have been edited in stream clip to remove some redunant stuff, but too late now. Hopefully compression will not take so long. So now when toast image is done, I should trash converted items? Trash the mpeg file? Mount the image? Arrange menu items? Burn another toast image? And finally to disc? Or no? I would have to burn to disc to get the compression? Or is there some way to force a toast image to be a certain size?
  15. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    Ok I think I get it. When the toast image is done, I will mount it and then I can rearrange order of menu items? Then toast will make a new tmp file in converted items and re-encode, or just multiplex (just thinking of time and space). Speaking of space, it would seem that I will need in the future to consider it will require almost 4x times the size of the mpeg file. Because right now that temp file is 5.37 gigs and the source was 4.3 gigs, and the temp is only 2/3 done, and then it has to write the .toast file, and that I imagine will be at least 4.3 gigs, and hopefully not the I imagine 7 or 8 gigs size of the temp file. Is this normal? I mean toast gave no warning I would need that much space. I have been deleting furiously. I can not even use toast to burn backups while this is going on. It would be such a help if there were a document that I could read that explained exactly how toast performs its functions. Then I would not have to pester you so much. I feel like such a fool. I can program in six languages, but I am helpless to use a program with so little documentation. I am also a newbie to the world of video formats. I can understand the con concept of wrappers from C++ and Java, but no clue as to details of what is happening with these video files.
  16. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    I am still in the process of encoding the mpeg, single file, from streamclip, into toast. 14 hours and a little over half way there. Play on insert is NOT checked and play continously is checked, so maybe everything will be OK. I was wondering because the orginal had a menu structure but the main menu was not the first to load, The first segment loaded first, and the segments seemed to be orphaned. So I do not know what will happen. How does toast deal with menus? Will it write its own? Or how I could effect what it did with a menu? Does it go by how, what order I drag them in from a mounted image? Once I drag them in from a mounted image, at that point I can trash the .toast image? Right now, in Converted Items folder, there is a tmp file, that is 4.9 gigs and growing. My finder still says I have 10.9 gigs available. So I have no idea what is going on. There is also a SPU.temp fle which is small, and a DVD.tmp folder which is empty. I wish toast had better help files which detailed the process instead of pretending it was so simple and making it transparent to the user.
  17. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    Thank you once again. I am looking for it. Another question. Once toast finishes converting and encoding, I will have a .toast image, hopefully. What can I do at that point to rearrange the menu that is messed up, so that the main menu is first to load and that all segments play sequentially? Will it take a long time to encode again?
  18. btour

    Pal to ntsc again and space

    Hi again, and thanks again. I did use the media browser and had the source file mounted and dragged and dropped, and yes I did expect toast to offer to convert and it did not do that. So that is why I used streamclip. I also wanted to fix this disc. There is a problem where it does not start with main menu but first segment menu and then stops after every segment, and there were problems with playback unless one choses main menu every time, so streamclip found lots of timecode breaks. I will look for MPEG2, is that for the mac? Where can I get it? I was aware there was an mpeg2 component available but not a program by that name.
  19. Oh Yes I have seen those, with media browser files, and xml files. Can I then data copy those so I preserve disc in encoded format and all? I can't use those in quicktime. Have not tried vlc. Toast does that without asking it to write a disc image? What is the next best discs?
  20. I have one recorded to Sony discs that was slightly compressed and it skips in the start a little. I have one recorded to HP dual layer and it skips a lot towards the end. They are both +R. Is it the disc quality that causes this skipping? The brand? Both were recorded at 4x. I looked for Verbatim at three stores, and could not find them. Will what I have recorded serve as a good image to try to burn to another brand Even though it skips on playback on DVD player to TV? I would like to get his project off my hard drive. Looks like I wasted a lot of money on these HP dual layer discs. They adveritsed as being great for DVD playback to TV.
  21. Thanks again Tsantee. There was a blizzard and I drove all around, but not to Walmart. Tried Staples, Circuit city and Kmart. Dual layer discs were not many at any of these. Of course, memorex was everywhere, and I know those don't work. What is next in line for reliability, after Verbatim? Or even better than Verbatim? I am leaving soon for shopping. I will test on Mac and another player. BTW, no matter what I tried I could not get the pal segment to convert. Toast kept promising to do it, but it stayed the same. I used .toast image. I used converted files. I deleted converted items. I tried redoing the orginal .avi files. Every time toast promised to convert and every time it stayed the same. Toast just went ahead and mulitplexed and wrote file. Maybe there is just a marker left saying it is Pal but it is actually ntsc. I have no idea. At this point I give up trying. Yikes I just tried to see if I could extract the MPEG's are you suggested and realized I have no idea, and could not see how to do that. I was in media browser, but did not see that option. Could you walk me through that?
  22. btour

    burning dvd from converted item

    Thank you, will try verbatim, if I can find it. When you say titles, do you mean chapters? I have not figured out how to drag titles just chapters. And if I use to discs it would be nice to divide more effecielntly and add something else. I hate to have to give two discs to someone to watch, and it would be nice to have people see this bit of history. Sony's have worked well for most dvds. I wonder what determines problem. Wonder if it is just random. Interesting. Watching it when it gets to second title, first chapter it starts skipping again but this time not as bad. Noticed that first title had in converted items the file as m1v and others had m2v. You have been a great help and thank you so much for getting me this far.
  23. btour

    burning dvd from converted item

    It should be straight forward to burn dvd from converted item, but I do not understand. There are many file types in converted item. .ac3 .m1v and .m2v and .temps, and a folder called dvd.tmp. Actually this is the first time I have had that folder, and it looks to contain all the making for ts video dvd. Should I just drag that to toast? The last time I tried to use converted files I added the .ac3 files, and toast complained there were no audio files so I added .m1v or the other I can not remember, and got a seperate audio file on dvd, and the video played with sound but was out of synch. Yuck. So even if dvd.tmp works, since I might not have that again, how can I use the other files and still have sound on video, but not seperate audio file? It took two days, always a long time though to encode a .avi file, and when it was done toast complained there was not enough room on dvd disc and stopped. So I really want to avoid re-encoding.( BTW why does it take so long? I have lots of ram 1.5 gigs. but only a 466 processer. So this is lots of questions I guess, but really only three. How to re-use already converted and can I make encoding faster, and do I have to re-encode to get the content to one disc? I might have to use a dual layer and want to avoid making an out of synch disc. I did not find much help in toast help files about using converted items. yuck. Why have converted items saved if they don't tell you how to use them? Thanks in advance.
  24. btour

    burning dvd from converted item

    Well it is done sort of. Works in player on tv, but skips and hangs in the beginning. Had this trouble before. I do not know why, maybe brand of disc? Sony +R. Rest of it seems to be fine. What is the best brand? Maybe when sony is full to disc it happens? I wrote it next slowest speed. 4X Lacie external firewire burner. Any suggestions? Maybe a will just go with dual layer disc? Will that help? Well it is done sort of. Works in player on tv, but skips and hangs in the beginning. Had this trouble before. I do not know why, maybe brand of disc? Sony +R. Rest of it seems to be fine. What is the best brand? Maybe when sony is full to disc it happens? I wrote it next slowest speed. 4X Lacie external firewire burner. Any suggestions? Maybe a will just go with dual layer disc? Will that help?
  25. btour

    burning dvd from converted item

    OK, I missed your last post, but did trash it, just to have space. I went back to orginal avi and got it converted to nstc. Have two toast images one of one and the other full. Then tried to use copy menu selecting appropriate segments ( had to select all the chapters, just title would not go ). Toast switched from copy to video menu by itself, but compression was on and toast ran compression. I used a rw sony brand just in case. Did it three times every time I got "sector 0 unreadable verifiation failed", and of course dvd tv player could not read disc. I am trying now with just +r disc that I know works and keeping my fingers crossed. Compression seems to be moving much faster now. Before I trashed some files in converted just for space they had a quicktime icon, and were large. Media browser files I think they were called.
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