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  1. Uncanny....more similarities. I also graduated from U of O with a degree in Journalism (Broadcast) in '74....a return to academia to finish an undergrad degree started at Ohio State in the early 60's. I worked for a few years in news at KEZI-TV and at a then local album oriented radio station, KZEL-FM. I'd love to visit more while I'm there. Can we take this off the forum? You can reach me as 'holdensme' on Yahoo.

     

     

    Ahh, the stories you could tell.... I'm sure you'll enjoy your return to Eugene. I've lived here the past 34 years and a few years before that received my journalism degree from U of O. Let me know if I can help you.


  2. I am pleased to report success with my latest attempt. I actually did two burns as a learning experience. The base file coming from EyeTV was Toasted once with all Toast settings at "Auto". The burn it produced seemed kind of "squeezed" left-to-right for width when played back in 4X3 mode even though the EyeTV file recorded it from U-verse's "standard definition widescreen" video output setting.

     

    I didn't use U-verse's "4X3 standard definition" output setting for the transfer into EyeTV as I had originally planned when I saw there was a standard definition widescreen option for video output on the U-verse box. Since the file was 16X9 when played back in EyeTV after recording from U-verse the "squeezing" surprised me. So, I did a second Toast burn with specific settings in Toast advanced options specifying a 16X9 resolution and the second burn was better and though not full widescreen on playback, it was wider side-to-side and was a better viewing experience. And, I could use the Sony TV's settings to "wide zoom" the file when playing back to fill to get full widescreen. With the first burn with Toast's "auto" settings, the television "wide zoom and zoom" settings had no effect on the content. Both Toast processed files did have a moderately long "encoding" period, so I'll experiment again with a forced no re-encode as you suggested and see what happens.

     

    I just noticed your signature file so you might be interested to know that the film I have been working with is "Magic Trip" the Hollywoodized version of Ken Kesey and a the Merry Pranksters' legendary 1964 transcontinental bus trip which I was a part of back in the day. Though at the time of the trip I was living and working in Ohio, I came out to Eugene after the trip and stayed for nearly 20 years before coming back to the Midwest in the mid-80's. I am planning a sentimental journey to Eugene next month. I had hoped to come in July during the Oregon Country Faire but took a fall and screwed my back just as I was planning to leave. Six weeks and lots of Physical Therapy later, I'm ready again. The trip is also to check out the housing market as I contemplate a return for my impending dotage as it were. I love Eugene and have missed these past couple of decades while toiling in the Big Blue fields of Ann Arbor, MI.

     

     

    You might try choosing Never Re-encode in Toast's custom encoder settings window to see if Toast will multiplex rather than encode the captured video. It will always encode if the video doesn't meet the video DVD spec, but since you're capturing at 480i it may meet the spec and multiplexing saves a lot of time (plus retains the actual quality of the source).


  3. Thanks again. It is comforting to know my process is producing the desired result. I am a Front Row user for media purchased at iTunes and EyeTV programming but I hadn't used it since I upgraded the Mini to Lion so I had not noticed it was gone. I did check out the MacWorld news pages you mentioned where it was also noted that if one still had a Mac running Snow Leopard (I do) there were some files that could be copied over to a Lion machine that would bring back Front Row functionality under Lion. I haven't done it yet, but I will likely try. I know it is not well advised to mess with files in the OS at the Library level, but all the content on the Lionized Mini is backed up to a Time Machine so if the hack messes things up, I can wipe the drive and restore things as they were before the Front Row restore in Lion experiment.

     

    On my original question front. I tried re-setting the U-verse box output to standard definition wide screen and re-captured the program in EyeTV from the U-verse's DVR in playback mode. This time the EyeTV file of the film was just under 4GB instead of 11GB as captured with the U-verse output set to 720p high definition. I selected the EyeTV "Toast" button with the newly captured standard definition version of the movie and Toast is "encoding" it now. It is about 35% through the encoding in 45 minutes. When completed and written I'll try playing back the standard 4.7GB blank burn and report back.

     

     

     

    Since you are using the Mac Mini to play the videos through HDMI then you are seeing Hi-Def on the TV. Your Mini supersedes any need for a special player such as a WDTV or even an AppleTV. You also don't need EyeConnect because its purpose is to give UpNp devices away from your Mac the opportunity to see the EyeTV library. You're not connected to an external playback device so it shouldn't be needed. The Mini is doing it all.

     

    You may be aware Apple dropped Front Row from Lion. That doesn't matter if you aren't using it now. But if it is something you use then check out a recent article on the topic at MacWorld.com.


  4. Geez...and I thought I was playing back High-Def recorded EyeTV files (from EyeTV) to my 720p Sony HDTV in high-def already. The High-Def EyeTV box is connected to an Intel Core-Duo Mac Mini (mid-2010) via USB and the Mini is connected to the Sony via HDMI through the Mini's Display port output with an HDMI cable and adapter. When I have a program the EyeTV High-Def (connected to the U-Verse box outputting 720p via component cables) has recorded within the EyeTV software app and I play it back from EyeTV, it seems like the playback quality is equal to that of the U-Verse's DVR playing back content recorded from a U-Verse-delivered High Def source. The EyeTV recorded content file seems to have a lot more video information because it is twice the size (6-8GB) per hour as the same program file EyeTV created when my old 250 Plus EyeTV hardware recorded the same content in 480i. Have I been kidding myself in that the Mini playing an EyeTV file without EyeConnect or an AppleTV is not passing HDTV content to the Sony? I realize that once the EyeTV software is playing back content recorded through the EyeTV High-def box that it is not engaging the box on playback...just the software and the Mac Mini handling the playback and program output to the Sony TV.

     

    Thanks to your post, I just checked the Elgato site and delved into EyeConnect for the first time...I had no idea this additional software was necessary for my Mini to play back EyeTV HD files to the Sony in true HD...DUH...I though just buying the EyeTV HD box and having current EyeTV software (3.5.3) running on my Mini was playing back the recorded content in High Definition just like it was captured. For $49.95 I guess I'll consider buying the EyeConnect EyeTV software to get in the game as it were. I'll also explore your WDTV live reference which I have never heard of. Though I am a die-hard Macophile (since my first Mac Plus in 1984) I just haven't been interested in getting an Apple TV mostly because of the H.264 file conversion process you mentioned and the fact that I am not an iPad or iPhone user which would also benefit from the added conversion process. I did however just take the "plunge" yesterday and ordered a new i7 Lionized Mac Mini to become my base "media" unit. I'll move last year's Mini to the guest room TV. I love the fact that the new Mini has an HDMI output as I have never been comfortable with the Mini Display port to HDMI adapter.

     

    Like you, I rarely make discs except for a friend now and then of premium HD channel content since they are without cable. I usually just watch recorded EyeTV files. Of course, this all started (and was necessitated) prior to my access to a High Definition cable TV service whose hardware included a DVR. U-Verse only became available in my neighborhood in the last six months. I do find myself now skipping the EyeV record process sometimes and just using the U-Verse's internal DVR to record and playback HD programs, but I also spend a couple months during the Winter in Mexico where Mac-based program playback is the most workable option and EyeTV makes it happen. I take a MacBook Air and a few 500GB portable USB/FW 800 drives full of EyeTV recorded programs with me to output to a 720p HDTV in the Caribbean condo. It's either that or Third World wire-delivered cable TV for the Winter which generally sucks. I guess I could get a satellite-delivered program service in Mexico but then their is the annual connect and disconnect with its added install expenses.

     

    I am really learning a lot here...thanks so much for taking the time to walk me through this stuff!

     

     

     

    Something else to consider if you have a HDTV is to get a device that will play HD video from your Mac's hard drive to the TV. AppleTV comes to mind but that requires converting the EyeTV video to h.264 and that's an unnecessary step with other devices. For instance I have a WDTV Live that can play the EyeTV videos on my TV. They need to be saved as an MPEG video from the EyeTV export menu to be compatible, or I can use ElGato's EyeConnect to play them directly from my EyeTV library without export. However, EyeConnect is yet another expense.

     

    What this alternative does is eliminate the need to make discs. Discs are great if you need to send them to others or take them elsewhere, but if the video is staying at home there are easier methods using a streaming playback device.


  5. Thanks much, guru. I will give it a try. It seems like I tried this before purchasing the Toast Blu-ray plug-in and also had playback trouble but I did not save the processed Toast output as a Disc Image...just mounted it after the Toast burned the disc and it wouldn't play. I assumed because it was a EyeTV file created with their EyeTV High-def hardware box that this is where the problem was. I am also going to try resetting the U-Verse box to output 480i instead of 720p for playback to EyeTV and using my previous EyeTV hardware (250 Plus) to create the EyeTV program file instead of the EyeTV High-def hardware. I will have to make the hardware connection with S-Video or Composite out from the U-Verse box to the EyeTV box instead of RGB Component cables which is how the U-Verse box connects to the current EyeTV High-def hardware. By playing back the original program content saved on the U-Verse DVR now set to output 480i, the older EyeTV hardware and current EyeTV software should capture a more workable version for burning with Toast to a standard DVD-DL (if necessary) blank. But, I will try your recommendation first as it will likely result in a higher quality disc. I'll report back on these attempts. Thanks again for your help!

     

    I agree about EyeTV's editing capabilities. I really do love it for the reason you mentioned. I have never used the Toast editing capability though I was aware of it from playing around with the Toast interface.

     

     

     

     

    Sorry I misunderstood. In this case you did not need to get the Blu-ray plugin. It is only needed if you want to make a Blu-ray playable video disc. What you can do is create a very nice standard-definition video DVD from the EyeTV video. Toast will rescale it as an anamorphic 16:9 video DVD that should have a quality nearly as good as what you see with store-bought DVDs. Choose DVD-video as your format and add the EyeTV video. The rescaling adds a lot of time to the encoding stage. I definitely recommend choosing Save as Disc Image because Toast sometimes has trouble waking up an optical drive after an extended encoding process.

     

    There is no way to play HD video on a standard definition DVD player. It has to be rescaled.

     

    I have both EyeTV and Toast. The EyeTV editor actually removes content from the file which is good if you want it totally gone. The Toast editor leaves the source file untouched which is quicker and safer if you are wanting to convert the video to another format.


  6. Thanks for the thorough and detailed explanation of the proper process for using the Toast Blu-ray plug-in. My problem is that I do not have a Blu-ray player or burner and I am trying to get Toast to compress and burn the EyeTV High Def program content (11 GB) down to a size that will fit on the DVD-DL media which will be playable on a non-Blu-ray standard DVD playback device. I thought the product info on the Toast Blu-ray plug-in said that it can do this. That is, it can create a standard DVD which can playback on Blu-ray players using the process you outlined even though the blank media is standard and not Blu-ray; or it can create a DVD-DL blank that will playback on older non-Blu-ray devices. Maybe I missed construed the Toast Blu-ray lug-in product information as to its capacities and wasted the $19.99 for the download.

     

    I am familiar with both the Toast and EyeTV's program file editing capacities and use it often to remove commercials and other unwanted content mostly when leaving the content as an EyeTV file and watching it playback from that application rather than burning it for DVD playback. In this instance the program from EyeTV was recorded via playback/import from a U-Verse-DVR recorded high-def program. The content is otherwise only available as a high-def streaming file from places like Amazon and I am trying to make a DVD disc for a friend who does not have a Blu-ray playback device or the capacity to stream the content from an on-line provider that does not sell the content in DVD disc form.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Since you have the Blu-ray plugin choose Blu-ray Video as the format in the Toast Video window. Use the Video tab in the Media Browser to access your EyeTV Library and add the video you want from the browser to the main window. Click Edit so you can trim out any sections of the video you don't want, such as commercials. This doesn't actually modify the source video. It just marks what segments you want Toast to include in your final disc.

     

    Now click Options (top right part of Toast window) and click Customize. In the window that appears click the Encoding tab and then the Custom button. Select MPEG 2 as the video format and choose "Never" next to re-encode. Click OK to return to the main window. Set up the menu the way you want. At the bottom of the window choose DVD DL as the media type and look to see if the size bar shows that your video will fit the media. If it won't you need to do more editing. You can always put part of the video on a second disc (but that requires doing that as a separate project).

     

    Now choose Save as Disc Image (either from the File menu or by selecting that with the Destination button. Click Save. When that is done select the resulting .toast file using the Image File setting in the Toast Copy window. This mounts the disc image. Does the space available bar indicate it will fit a DVD DL disc? If it does then go ahead and burn the disc. If not, there's nothing you can do except go back and shorten the video some more and make a new disc image.

     

    You can preview the mounted disc image on your Mac. Select Roxio Video Player from the Toast Extras menu. An open dialogue box appears. Just select the mounted disc and The video player will open a window the same as if it were playing a Blu-ray disc. Interestingly, Macs usually cannot play Blu-ray discs but the Roxio Video Player can play ones created by Toast.

     

    The resulting disc will require a Blu-ray player to play. I'm presuming you have such a player connected to your TV.


  7. Can anyone help with a description of how to successfully burn a file recorded with EyeTV High-Definition hardware? The files EyeTV records are often 8 to 15 GB depending on program length. I do not have a Blu-ray burner, but the Toast product (Blu-ray plug-in) description says such files can be burned to non-Blu-ray standard definition media...in my case that would be a DVD-DL+R blank. There does not apear to be a Toast "Fit-to-DVD Compression" toggle box when processing the EyeTV High-Def recorded video file as there is when using Toast to process from VIDEO_TS folders. After sucessful download and install of the Toast Blu-ray plug-in I have tried on a couple of occasions to set Toast to VIDEO and selecting High Definition in it's drop-down box and then locating the EyeTV recording in Toast's Media inventory window. Toast then "encodes" and burns the file to a DVD-DL blank but the blanks Toasts processes will not play back.

     

    I am running a Mac Mini Intel Core Duo (2010) with Mac Lion OS (10.7.1), Toast Titanium 11 (11.0.2)and EyeTV (3.5.3)

     

    Thanks for any assistance!

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