Thanks, you're not really telling me anything new here. I've had variable results when making -VR discs from a standalone recorder. Sometimes Superdrive reads them and sees the files, sometimes its sees only a "Recordable CD" with a CDR icon. Maybe someone else out there has a way of getting Superdrive to read it correctly. It already does read it since Toast 7 con find the movie; it won't let me copy it. What really baffles me is how copying a disc can be so hard for software to do. I surmise it's the schemes that the software uses because they REALLY don't copy. They take shortcuts because it would take too long if it were to do a true bit copy, so I guess.