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Is Creator 11, and Easy VHS to DVD 3 compatible with Windows 10? If not what versions do I need. Also what about the Music projects created under creator 11? Can I just move them to new folder under windows 10? I guess what I'd like to know is what do I have to do to move to windows 10.

 

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Joe

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Hi Joe,

 

It should work.

 

I made and saved a project using a couple of albums saved in XP under C:\Documents and Settings\owner\My Documents\My Music which is the standard folder back there.

 

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I them dropped those same album folders into the standard Music folder in Windows 10

 

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. . . and when I double-clicked on the .dmsa file I'd saved in XP and copied to the Windows 10 machine, the Roxio Music Disc Creator came straight up with my chosen songs ready to burn.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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Hi Joe,

 

You must have actually opened Roxio Music Disc Creator [MDC] post-208-0-12755500-1440288871_thumb.jpg Since 'Burn Audio CDs' uses .ROX save files, not .dmsa.

 

Bur the news seems good.

 

A .dmsa file I made in Creator 2011's MDC happily loaded in NXT 3's MDC and burned the CD just as well in each version of the program. They seem compatible between versions. Remember though, that you must have your source files in the same directory on the same drive letter as when you saved the .dmsa file

 

Regards,

Brendon

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Hi Brendan,

 

Where did you put the dmsa file when you moved it to windows 10. Right now all my albums are under "Music" , and so is "Roxio Projects". when I open a project it's still looking for it under the path name that it was created in XP. My path on windows 10 is

 

Music\Roxio Projects.

 

When I try to open the dmsa file in "Roxio Projects" it's looking for the 1st song in the album and it says file not found.

The file name in Roxio Projects is "Ford Electronics.dmsa" and below is the path in windows 10 that it's trying find.

 

C:\Documents and Settings\Joe Hammill\My Documents\Ford Electronics\01 Lily Was Here.wma

 

The album "Ford Electronics" is in the "Music" folder and the 1st song is "Lily Was Here"

It looks like I've done what you did but mine doesn't work.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

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Hi Brendan,

 

Where did you put the dmsa file when you moved it to windows 10. Right now all my albums are under "Music" , and so is "Roxio Projects". when I open a project it's still looking for it under the path name that it was created in XP. My path on windows 10 is

 

Music\Roxio Projects.

 

When I try to open the dmsa file in "Roxio Projects" it's looking for the 1st song in the album and it says file not found.

The file name in Roxio Projects is "Ford Electronics.dmsa" and below is the path in windows 10 that it's trying find.

 

C:\Documents and Settings\Joe Hammill\My Documents\Ford Electronics\01 Lily Was Here.wma

 

The album "Ford Electronics" is in the "Music" folder and the 1st song is "Lily Was Here"

It looks like I've done what you did but mine doesn't work.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

 

 

Is the highlghted path tot the song the exact same path as was used in the XP system?

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The folder on my system is labeled "Roxio Projects" contained as a sub-folder under folder "MY MUSIC" which is on hard drive "C". Just to make sure I understand I should have a folder named "MY MUSIC" with a sub-folder named "Roxio Projects" and move the dmsa files to the new Roxio Projects contained on the new "C" drive on the Windows 10 system. I hope I got this right, and your right I did use "Create Music Disc Projects" to do it.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

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No I'm sorrry I made a mistake. I forgot part of the path. Here it is again. This is what windows 10 is looking for.

 

C:\Documents and Settings\Joe Hammill\My Documents\My Music\Ford Electronics\01 Lily Was Here.wma.

 

The XP system is looking at :

 

C:\Documents and Settings\JoeHammill\\My Documents\My Music\Roxio Projects\Ford Electronics.dmsa

 

Just to reiterate "Roxio Projects" is a folder within the "Music" folder on windows 10

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You are confusing the project file (it has the extension dmsa) and the "song" file (it has the extension wma). The location of the song file is "hard-coded" into the dmsa project file.

When you open the project file in W10 then Roxio is looking for the song file in exactly the same path you had on XP. THe dmsa path is not important.

 

I don't know, Brendon?

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If that's true then what am I doing wrong? My understanding is that in W10 "Documents" is the equivalent of "My Documents" and "Music" is the equivalent of "My Music" in XP. The difference I've seen in W10 is "Music" is its own major folder and is not part of "Documents" . In XP "My Music" is a folder in "My Documents". If the song file is hard coded in the dmsa file then I should have folders name "Documents and Settings" , "Joe Hammill" , "My Documents", and "My Music", and the albums should be placed in the "My Music" folder.

 

My albums are in "Music" in W10, which if my reasoning is correct they are in the folder that the project should find them. Do I have to create folders with the exact names that are in XP?

 

If what I stated above is not true then where should the albums be placed?

 

I know this is frustrating to you, but I'm just as frustrated.

 

 

Thanks

 

Joe

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Hello Joe,

 

Sorry, it seems that the 'guru cluster' onto this topic is causing confusion. I'll try to explain what's causing the grief with your PATH, and how to put it right.

 

When Microsoft released Windows Vista they changed things and brought in some more "smoke and mirrors". The names of certain key folders have been "reserved" by the system and those folders have become "Junction Points" (a sort of shortcut). You can no longer create real folders with those names.This scheme continues right through to Windows 10.

 

If you look back to post #15 you'll see my source music files were in the folders Del Shannon and Dire Straits which were in the XP folder

C:\Documents and Settings\owner\My Documents\My Music\ (my account name is "owner" whereas yours is "Joe Hammill")

 

In Windows 10 I copied the Dell Shannon and Dire Straits folders into the Windows 10 "Music" library as I've shown in the screen shot, and just put my .dmsa file on the desktop. That worked fine for me, and should work fine for you.

 

If your music on XP is in C:\Documents and Settings\Joe Hammill\My Documents\My Music\Ford Electronics\ then just copy your "Ford Electonics" folder and its contents into the Windows 10 Music Library 'folder'

 

It should then look like this, with your new folder visible both underneath and slightly to the right of the Music library, and also in the right pane of the window where the contents of the music library are shown. - And your project should work.

 

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Note: since your user account name is part of the path under both XP and Windows 10, you need to have the same user account name in both systems.

 

 

Regards,

Brendon

 

 

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Sorry if I didn't make that quite clear, Joe. It's the source audio files, [the MP3, wav, or wma files] which must be in the same position when you go to use them with your new NXT 3 software. The Roxio program files can be wherever the installer put them.

 

The .dmsa project file saves the address of the audio files you're using, so when you go to use the .dmsa file again in C2011 or NXT 3 the audio files need to still at the same location or else the project can't find them.

 

I hope that's clearer :)

 

Regards,

Brendon

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What you said about user account has me a bit confused. Under XP it is "Joe Hammill" and under W10 it is "Joe". When I installed W10 I did put my name as Joe Hammill, but under users it's listed as Users\Joe\xxxx. I didn't set it this way. Could that be a problem. I checked user accounts in control panel and it has me listed as Joe Hammill, but only as Joe under users. Is W10 shortcutting the user name.

 

All the Music folders I copied are in the W10 Music Folder as you stated above, as well as Roxio Projects which contains the dmsa pointers. The only difference is your pointer is on desktop and mine is in a folder which is in Music.

 

When I open file explorer I see a picture icon of a person with Joe Hammill next to it. When I click on "This PC" I see OS(C:) and under that is users which just shows Joe. This makes no sense.

 

 

I did find a work around but it means resaving all the dmsa pointers after i get to the right path. This could really take awhile

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Gidday Joe,

 

I'm not quite sure of some of what you've been doing, so I've taken a few hours to step myself through it going carefully and noting results.

 

- I installed XP on one machine and created an account in your name. I then installed Creator 2011, put a music file into . . .\My Documents\My Music\ and created and saved a project using that one file.

 

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- I did a fresh install of Win 10 on a different machine [because although Win 10 lets you change User Name it doesn't change the file paths on the drive] under your name.

The user account name came out all right and not shortened to 'Joe". (See Below) Are you sure you told Windows 10 both names?

 

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- I then put the same music file into Win 10's 'Music' library and the XP .dmsa file onto the Win 10 desktop

 

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- then installed NXT Pro 3, ran Music Disc Creator, and opened the XP .dmsa file . .

 

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et voila!! Eureka, and all that stuff! It's working for me on a Windows 10 machine under Joe Hammill. It should work for you under that name, unless Windows has somehow shortened the name to Joe.

 

 

Note: First time I double-tapped the .dmsa file to open Music Disc Creator I got an error box asking me to give it the right path. I just closed that box, opened MDC and then opened the .dmsa file in MDC. - No problems. A bit strange though, but then this is Windows we're dealing with.

 

Hope all this helps,

Brendon

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Thanks Brendan,

 

I think we may have found the culprit. The only difference I see is you put NXT3 on the XP system while I used Creator 11. Looks like I'll have to give my friendly neighborhood techs at Dell land a call to find out what's up.

 

I'll try and get back to you asap.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

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Sorry Joe, I was juggling so many OSes and bits of Roxio software at once, I said it wrong. I used Creator 2011 on the starting system to duplicate your conditions.

 

I've edited my post now. As you'll see from the screen shot I made at the time, I installed Creator 2011 Pro in XP and made the dmsa file from that. [There is no Creator 11, by the way] Then I installed NXT Pro 3 in Win 10 and opened the .dmsa file successfully with that.

 

Regards,

Brendon

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Hi Brendan,

 

As Dr. Frankenstein said "IT'S ALIVE IT'S ALIVE". You won't believe what had to be done. Talked to Dell Tech support. He went through all kinds changes trying to change user name to Joe Hammill. Couldn't get it done. Finally had to do a factory reset and bring up 8.1 then do an update to W10. Then had to create my user name before we created microsoft account. Whole process took about 5 hrs. I then installed Roxio NXT3 and then loaded My Music down into Music. When I opened File Explorer I looked in Music and it had the My Music as a sub folder. Brought up Roxio and tried to access a dmsa file and had same problem again. I moved My Music folder to Documents and moved Roxio dmsa pointer to desktop like you did. Tried again and Voila it picked up the file I pointed to and I was able to burn and replay disc. I clicked on several dmsa pointers just to make sure it picked them up okay and it did okay

 

There is another problem though. When I bring up the project it shows disc label and all the song titles, and the artist, but after the burn and I replay the disc all that shows is track1, track2, etc. Does playlist have to be added or is there something that has to be set to pick up song titles.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

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Hello Joe,

 

I believe you about all the fussing and the time it takes - I went through it all yesterday and the day before. :) I couldn't change the name, and had to reinstall Windows 10 to get it under "Joe Hammill".

 

It's likely that the software includes CD-Text in the disc, but your player just isn't displaying it.

 

The titles and stuff you're talking about come under the heading "CD Text".

Now, as I understand it CD Text is in the CD 'Red Book' Standards but while most in 'the industry' have implemented it, Microsoft decided not to.

 

As a result, Windows Media Player doesn't ordinarily display CD Text unless you add a plug-in to give it the ability. You will find some info about the plug-in here.

I think the plug-in will work from WMP version 11 forward according to what they say on that page.

 

There's more info about software which will display CD-Text in the software section of the Wiki page, here.

 

That's the wonderful thing about standards - if you're big enough you can ignore them. :(

 

Regards,

Brendon

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Hi Brendan,

 

HELP

 

I knew I would screw this up. Below is current file on old computer. I copied the whole My Music folder to flash drive and downloaded to new computer

 

c:\Documents and Settings\Joe Hammill\My Documents\My Music\Roxio Projects\Sinatra - poplar vol2.dmsa

 

The new computer is running windows 10, and the file is located below

 

C:\users\Joe\Music

 

I'm on a learning curve with new system so still trying to figure out where to load folders from old system. I'm figuring that I have to create a path exactly like the old system, but not sure exactly how to do it.

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Hi Joe,

 

Yes, "at the same location" means you must have exactly the same path to the music source files [MP3, etc] as you had on your old system.

You can put your project files wherever you like, it's where the music files are that's crucial.

I would suggest you put your old project files wherever NXT 3 puts its project files, then they'll be in the same place as your new projects.

 

It looks as if you were saving your old projects in c:\Documents and Settings\Joe Hammill\My Documents\My Music\Roxio Projects\ - where were your music files saved?

 

What Operating System were you using your Creator 2011 in? Was it XP?

 

Regards,

Brendon

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Hi Brendan,

 

Of course by now with me nothing is easy. I loaded a disc I burned with NXT3 and brought up under media player and I right clicked on track 2, and did not find the read cd-text option. I did see properties and clicked on that. down the bottom under the heading Location was WMPCD://0/1. Does this mean the plugin is there and just not working or do I have to download it. According to help screen I have version 12.0.10011.16397. I looked up the plugin and I didn't find one for version 12. Can you point me in right direction for correct plugin.

 

Thanks

 

Joe

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Hello Joe.

 

According to that article with the info about the plug-in [my first link] it should "work with Media Player 11 or up from now on" so the latest version [ver 1.4] should work with WMP 12.

If you go to the author's site here, then select WMPCDText, and then Downloads you'll get version 1.4

 

I just downloaded and installed version 1.4 in "your" Windows 10 [grin], pulled the network cable out of that machine to prevent Internet lookup, and inserted a couple of my Creator discs with CD-Text. After a couple of seconds, Windows Media Player 12 displayed all the track and artist names, and the name of the albums. It works!

 

Regards,

Brendon

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