Nxt4 Transitions

[out of harms way]

Hi,

 

I upgraded from NXT(1) to NXT4 some time ago and have just attempted to use transitions other than the standard "Reveals". I was astonished to find that many of those I used in NXT and earlier (at least back to Creator 10) are not there. There are none in categories "Page Turns", "3-D", and "Distort". I get the message "There are no items to show in this view".

 

Can anyone throw any light on this?

 

Is this another example of "dumbing-down" by Roxio/Corel or is it a problem my end? I've asked Roxio/Corel but as expected - No reply!!

 

(I am already using Creator 10 (EMC10) in parallel with NXT4 to make use of the original (far superior) version of MyDVD. So far this has worked perfectly under Windows 10. Maybe I should revert entirely to EMC10 and forget NXT!!)

 

Thanks in anticipation.

 

David

[Brendon]

Whew! It's all complicated isn't it, David!

 

My apologies for recommending msxml 4.0 - I got it from the current Corel Knowledgebase, which must be lagging behind. Given what you mentioned from the release notes, I'd suggest you install MSXML 6.0. It's incorporated in Windows 10, so the latest version shouldn't hurt anything. I haven't investigated the latest version so I can't advise about that Cab.exe file, though I will go and dig into it if you want me to.

 

I don't have both EMC 10 and NXT 4 in Windows 10, so I can't discover if the presence of EMC 10 is breaking anything.

Since EMC 10 doesn't have a silly install counter I'd go with Cdanteek's advice - uninstall EMC 10 and Repair NXT 4, then try it.

You can always reinstall EMC 10 later, if you want to.

 

Regards,

Brendon

[out of harms way]

Hi all,

 

Uninstalled EMC10, repaired NXT4, no change!!!

 

 

I ran both msxml6.msi, and msxml_x64.msi - both immediately went to "finish" as though they didn't need to do anything. No change anyway.

 

Scoured the internet for more info and was recommended to install WinThruster to scan for errors. I did this and it found 800+ high risk errors (if you believe that!!) but you had to purchase to remove errors (no thank you!!). I regularly run a clean up (Glary Utilities).

 

Obviously what is affecting NXT4 is not affecting EMC10 in the same way. I think this is where I give up, unless anyone knows a way of talking to Roxio/Corel - I had limited success via the feedback link when I initially confirmed the shortcomings of MyDVD, but they have since gone very quiet!!

 

Long live EMC10!!! I have installed it on a revived Vista laptop - it runs but the laptop is very slow. If I can speed this up I'll use it for all my DVD work. If not, I'll use it on Win 10 and hope it doesn't start misbehaving.

 

Thanks all

 

David

 

 

 

[cdanteek]

 

I regularly run a clean up (Glary Utilities).

 

Does it report errors for Roxio and do you tell it to fix them?

[out of harms way]

Hi cdanteek,

 

I don't always look at the detail, but I always repair. I've just run it now and it found 21 registry issues (1 of them obviously Roxio - Scorefitter), thousands of Firefox "tracks" to be deleted and 200MB of temp files (none of them Roxio). I'll check detail when I run it again.

 

I must admit I was expecting some Roxio registry issues having uninstalled EMC10. I usually use a deep uninstaller (Revo uninstaller) which clears left over registry items, but I didn't with EMC10 since on one occasion I had EMC10 and NXT4 running on a "spare" win10 machine during a test phase, uninstalled EMC10 using Revo, and it caused NXT4 to not run properly nor to uninstall or reinstall (I don't recall trying repair!!). Probably thought some NXT4 stuff was EMC10!! Not a problem anyway - just for your info.

 

Cheers

 

David

[out of harms way]

Hi,

 

I've just run WinThruster again and looked at the detail of the 800+ errors. Only a handful are obviously Roxio based. Glary Utilities might not be finding all issues. WinThruster is less that £20, but there are so many of these around it makes me wonder whether any are really worth it. If I get nowhere with my transitions soon I might consider WinThruster. Not that I expect it to make any difference. It's either that or EMC10!! It might be EMC10 in any case!!

[Jim_Hardin]

In Versions Past of Roxio, we have seen these Registry Cleaner break the product!

 

Haven't heard of it lately, but I do know that none of the regulars here even own a Reg Cleaner and if it came with AV software, they turn it OFF

[Brendon]

Sorry Jim,

that's not quite right.

 

I own several registry cleaners, and I use RegSeeker every few days without causing my Roxio programs any distress. You should use one AV product to avoid conflicts, and you should only turn it off while installing complex software.

 

EMC 9 and 10 had a fault in the coding one particular "twig" on the tree of their registry entries.

Use of a too-vigorous registry cleaner would remove that faulty twig, which would produce one particular activation fault

-EMC 9 would revert to a trial version

-EMC 10 would stop dead, and no module could be started.

That was the only fault exposed by a registry cleaner.

 

David,

I wouldn't waste my money on Solvusoft Winthruster. At best it is a PUP (potentially unwanted program) more likely it is expensive 'snakeoil'. It doesn't have good independent reviews. If it removes the 800+ entries it doesn't like you could do some irreparable harm to your registry.

 

Regards,

Brendon

[out of harms way]

Hi Brendon,

 

Thanks for the advice. I usually am dubious about these clean up software packages, but I've used Glarysoft Glary Utilities for many years (recommended by a friend) and so far have not had any problems, even with the various versions of Roxio (until now!!). I don't really think I'm going to find a solution to the missing transitions so I'm definitely considering EMC10 full time.

 

I would still like to discuss it with Roxio/Corel if anyone could tell me how to.

 

Many thanks all.

 

David

[cdanteek]

Does your PC have a onboard graphics card or a add on graphics card?

 

What one is your Bios set to?

[out of harms way]

Hi cdanteek,

 

I am almost certain I have an on-board Graphics card. I've certainly not added one myself.

 

Not sure how to get to Bios in Win 10. Searched internet - looks long process - not sure it will tell me what I want anyway.

 

David

[sknis]

Did you install the "Contents" file/download. That is where they are. What level of NXT4 did you buy -- standard or Pro?

 

There were some major changes in NXT 4 from earlier versions (look at MyDVD). Hange onto that EMC 10 as long as it works.

[REDWAGON]

Your thought or suggestion about using EMC10 rather than NXT4

(especially as long as it is working perfectly for you) is the way to go David.

And as Steve suggested, hold on to it !

[bimicher]

The problem is that EMC 10 may eventually break when running in W10

[out of harms way]

Hi all,

 

Many thanks for your replies. I only have Standard NXT4, as for all previous versions, but I'll have a look at the Contents issue and let you know. I take it that you think I should have all of the transitions as in NXT.

 

I am fully expecting EMC10 to start misbehaving, but if/when that happens I'll have a go at uninstalling and reinstalling. I did have a minor issue of not being able to adjust the length of the motion on the menus in MyDVD, but that righted itself without me consciously doing anything!!

 

Thanks again.

[bimicher]

NXT 4 has the same or more transitions than NXT ... if you installed the Contents.

 

NXT 4 of course is inferior to NXT since it no longer contains the myDVD we were used to. The new "myDVD" is basically useless unless you want a very simple menu and do not want to make any editing, etc

[out of harms way]

Hi all,

 

cdanteek - Not sure why you asked about the graphics card, but ....

 

all - I have reinstalled Vista on my Dell laptop (post #21), installed EMC10, no internet connection so nothing to slow it down, started a new project which is running well, so goodbye NXT4.

 

Many thanks to all for your comments regarding my missing transitions.

 

regards

 

David

[Brendon]

Go well, David.

 

Best wishes,

Brendon

[out of harms way]

Hi,

 

I've attempted to install contents, rightly or wrongly by running setup.exe in the "Creator NXT4 Content" folder on my installation disc. It didn't take long and made no difference even after a re-boot. Myguggi, you say that NXT4 should have at least the same transitions as NXT. I am obviously doing something wrong. Can you please put me in the right direction?

 

Many thanks

 

David

[cdanteek]

 

cdanteek - Not sure why you asked about the graphics card, but ....

 

 

Gathering data on who suffers from not seeing the transitions.

[cdanteek]

I have three setup.exe in my NXT4 Pro download.

 

[out of harms way]

I only have the standard, not Pro. My installation options are -

 

[out of harms way]

Hi Brendon et al,

 

You may or may not be interested in a further test that I've carried out on NXT4 transitions - here goes -

 

I belong to a group creating DVDs in a local organisation. I therefore have access to a number of Win10 machines and one other copy of NXT4. (most of us are still using NXT on Win7). I borrowed the other NXT4 (my friend has upgraded to NXT5 - poor chap!! - no info on transitions from him yet though) and installed it on another Win10 machine. Lo and behold ALL the transitions were there and working.

 

The interesting thing is the version number. After installation it was at "17.0.67.0; 5.0.0.0 Build 170B67A SP1, RO3 170B32A, RO3".

 

I was invited to install two upgrades, the first to SP2, (version "17.0.67.0; 5.0.0.0 Build 170B67A SP2, RO3 170B32B, RO3") and the second to SP3 (version "17.0.67.0; 5.0.0.0 Build 170B67A SP3, RO3 170B32B, RO3")

 

The version number appears to be an earlier one than mine (17.0.70.2), yet they were purchased on the same order. (I remember upgrading mine, but I can't remember what to).

 

I would like to install my copy onto this Win10 machine to see what that gives (to determine if it's my machine causing the problem), but I am aware of the installation limit as advised via this forum. (Where did this limit come from? It's not referred to in any supplied documentation). I seem to remember a post referring to a possible "reset" of this limit once it has been reached (can't find it now!!). Can you help with this? I definitely consider this issue as being a legitimate reason for multiple installations.

 

Regards

 

David

[Brendon]

Good morning David.

 

That's an interesting array of version and build numbers, but we can't draw any conclusions until you try your copy in that machine or his copy in your machine.

 

For some reason, downgraded abilities never seem to be mentioned in advertising or supplied documentation. There was no install limit counter in the earlier Creators, but the NXT series had a limit of 10 installs. NXT 5 has a 20 install limit, but that still isn't enough where people are having problems with the software.

 

The Install Counter is shown in your ROXIO_SETUP.LOG.

The other day mine said:

01/03/17 13:47:57 - Install Count: 11
01/03/17 13:47:57 - Install Left: 9
01/03/17 13:47:57 - Install Resets: 0
01/03/17 13:47:57 - Validation completed successfully
01/03/17 13:48:14 - Tested 'Roxio Creator NXT 4' and turning dependant product 'MyDVD': on

 

I think the counter follows the unique key rather than the generic software, so you should be able to use either his key or yours (if he has moved to NXT 5 he won't need more NXT 4 installs?)

 

If a key gets maxed out, Roxio Technical Support can reset it if you can get in touch with them.

 

Regards,

Brendon

[out of harms way]

Sorry to be a pain Brendon,

 

Where do I find ROXIO_SETUP.LOG?

 

David

[out of harms way]

Hi,

The items in my last post are actually those in a desktop backup made at the time of the initial installation. The items on my installation disk are-

 

 

and those in EMC_CONTENT170 are -

 

 

I opened the file Roxio Content 15.msi (just to see what it did) and it brought up the NTX4 Content InstallShield Wizard, but this only gave me an option to remove content.

 

Any ideas where I should go to try to get all of the transitions back?

 

Cheers

 

David