slideshow photo practical limit

[PeterSanders]

Hi

 

A question probably asked many times before...

 

What would the more experienced users here suggest as a value for how many images to include (per slideshow) for best performance of EMC9.

 

I appreciate that there is no real limit, however the more photos per slideshow the slower the processing will be as EMC9 imports the images and creates the show.

 

I expect it would be better to create smaller slideshows (to speed up processing) and tie the small shows into a larger project. ie one big slideshwo with suitable (dvd) menus.

 

I tried creating a slideshow with another program (I think it may have been Nero or maybe the basic Roxio software I had) I added 600 images (en masse) and the creation process displayed a message saying there was a limit of 99 images per "section" or "chapter" or something (sorry, I don't recall the exact message now).

 

The show was created and I automatically had 6 menu choices. I could then select any of those menu options or just let the show play and it would automatically show all slides.

 

I have as many as 1000 images to put into a slideshow. A USA/Canada/Alaska holiday - I took 600 images and my friend took 400. No doubt there will be duplicates and throw-aways, so the real number may be approx 700-800 plus about 10 video clips about 1 to 2 minutes long.

 

I would be happy to put these images into some form of group or "chapter" arrangement, so having and idea or rule of thumb for how many images to place in each group or "chapter" would be good.

 

thank you

 

Peter

[PeterSanders]

Well, for myself, when working with VideoWave projects that contains only "pictures", and sometimes music, I've seen no change in performance when using 1 picture file or 200 + picture files. Usullay I use jpg's, but I don't think that really matters.

 

The project will usually only keep track of where the source file(s) are for pictures. It will make temp ones if you do any editing to it from within videowave, such as adjust brightness, effects, etc., but still needs the original source for reference when you actually output (rendering process) the project.

 

Video files a different story altogether. DV AVI files up to about an hour are usually fine with no performance issues. Other compressed formats, like mpeg2 (mpg), divx, etc, it's usually better to woirk with files that are no longe then 15 - 20 min in length.

Hi

 

Thank you Larry

 

Regards

 

Peter

[sknis]

Hi

 

Please don't get me wrong here, it is not my intention to upset anyone, but I have asked several questions and have had some useful answers and some answers that have been completely off the mark.

 

I apologize for my off target remarks. I guess I was reading too much into your post.

[malatekid]

Hi

 

I would be happy to put these images into some form of group or "chapter" arrangement, so having and idea or rule of thumb for how many images to place in each group or "chapter" would be good.

 

thank you

 

Peter

A total of one hour show should give you a "best quality" DVD. As you indicated, you can create a production for each group (maybe one for USA trip, another one for Canada, etc.). Then bring them all in MyDVD where you will be able to create a Play All (to play all movies) and Scene Selection(play a specific trip) menu buttons. Creation of Scene Selection type of menu has been discussed a couple of times in other posts here in the forum.

[sknis]

A total of one hour show should give you a "best quality" DVD. As you indicated, you can create a production for each group (maybe one for USA trip, another one for Canada, etc.). Then bring them all in MyDVD where you will be able to create a Play All (to play all movies) and Scene Selection(play a specific trip) menu buttons. Creation of Scene Selection type of menu has been discussed a couple of times in other posts here in the forum.

 

I think the best answer is not the program but your audience. If you were going to present the slide show travelogue at a club that watch people's travels, how much time would you be given for one show? Probably 20 minutes or so. That is usually when people's minds begin to wander. IMHO, I'd put three or four 20 minutes slide shows on one disc. They will fit easily and perhaps someone would want an encore so you could present a different show.

 

I'm a great believer of not putting all your eggs in one basket. DVD blanks are cheap so I'd spread the images over several discs. You don't want to show up for that presentation and find the disc scratched.

 

By the way, you might consider archiving the images on the disc (from MyDVD project setting) so that you have another back up for the images. That will take up space that you will have to figure in.

[PeterSanders]

Hi

 

Please don't get me wrong here, it is not my intention to upset anyone, but I have asked several questions and have had some useful answers and some answers that have been completely off the mark.

 

I have apologised for not being clear enough in previous messages but I would have thought that in THIS message things were clear.

 

Please read THIS first...

 

What would the more experienced users here suggest as a value for how many images to include (per slideshow) for best performance of EMC9.

 

I appreciate that there is no real limit, however the more photos per slideshow the slower the processing will be as EMC9 imports the images and creates the show.

 

I expect it would be better to create smaller slideshows (to speed up processing) and tie the small shows into a larger project. ie one big slideshwo with suitable (dvd) menus.

 

Now what I WAS asking, was how many photos before the performance of EMC9 would be adversly affected. Note I stated "BEST PERFORMANCE OF EMC9"

 

and

 

"however the more photos per slideshow the slower the processing"

 

There must be some trade off between image count and EMC9 processing speed.

 

Thank you for your replies, BUT I am NOT interested in how to present slideshows or how long a slideshow should be before putting an audience to sleep or it becomes boring etc.

 

I have worked with computers since 1975, I have worked as a photographer for a commercial company and I have taken MANY slides and given slideshows and assorted presentations in the past.

 

I have had experience with numerous software programs in the past, including Roxio Easy VCD creator.

 

I JUST want to know from others' experience with EMC9, IS there a rule of thumb for how many images consitute a slideshow or OTHER type of project before EMC9 gets bogged down in processing these images.

 

As I have only used EMC9 for a few hours over the last few days, I am trying to find out THIS info to save me some time in testing this to find out. I have no idea how EMC9 handles its image processing, does it buffer the image elsewhere on the disk, does it work with the full size image all the time, does it use thumbnails or smaller images to show the user during processing, does it just "point" to the orignal image on tthe disk, does it use ram carefully, does it fill the memory up then swap to disk, does it swap thumbnails, does it swap full size images etc, etc.

 

I can find out by trial and error what my system sees as a "practical" limit ie before the processing takes an excessively long time - BUT I thought SOMEONE here might have an idea or take an educated guess.

 

I DON'T need to know how long I should make my slideshows.

 

Thank you for your help - if my comments above have not deterred you

 

Thank you, I do appreciate those that have answered my question actually took the time and effort to do so, but the answers were just NOT relevant to the question.

 

Kind regards

 

Peter

[Larry]

Hi

 

Please don't get me wrong here, it is not my intention to upset anyone, but I have asked several questions and have had some useful answers and some answers that have been completely off the mark.

 

I have apologised for not being clear enough in previous messages but I would have thought that in THIS message things were clear.

 

Please read THIS first...

 

 

 

Now what I WAS asking, was how many photos before the performance of EMC9 would be adversly affected. Note I stated "BEST PERFORMANCE OF EMC9"

 

and

 

"however the more photos per slideshow the slower the processing"

 

There must be some trade off between image count and EMC9 processing speed.

 

Thank you for your replies, BUT I am NOT interested in how to present slideshows or how long a slideshow should be before putting an audience to sleep or it becomes boring etc.

 

I have worked with computers since 1975, I have worked as a photographer for a commercial company and I have taken MANY slides and given slideshows and assorted presentations in the past.

 

I have had experience with numerous software programs in the past, including Roxio Easy VCD creator.

 

I JUST want to know from others' experience with EMC9, IS there a rule of thumb for how many images consitute a slideshow or OTHER type of project before EMC9 gets bogged down in processing these images.

 

As I have only used EMC9 for a few hours over the last few days, I am trying to find out THIS info to save me some time in testing this to find out. I have no idea how EMC9 handles its image processing, does it buffer the image elsewhere on the disk, does it work with the full size image all the time, does it use thumbnails or smaller images to show the user during processing, does it just "point" to the orignal image on tthe disk, does it use ram carefully, does it fill the memory up then swap to disk, does it swap thumbnails, does it swap full size images etc, etc.

 

I can find out by trial and error what my system sees as a "practical" limit ie before the processing takes an excessively long time - BUT I thought SOMEONE here might have an idea or take an educated guess.

 

I DON'T need to know how long I should make my slideshows.

 

Thank you for your help - if my comments above have not deterred you

 

Thank you, I do appreciate those that have answered my question actually took the time and effort to do so, but the answers were just NOT relevant to the question.

 

Kind regards

 

Peter

Well, for myself, when working with VideoWave projects that contains only "pictures", and sometimes music, I've seen no change in performance when using 1 picture file or 200 + picture files. Usullay I use jpg's, but I don't think that really matters.

 

The project will usually only keep track of where the source file(s) are for pictures. It will make temp ones if you do any editing to it from within videowave, such as adjust brightness, effects, etc., but still needs the original source for reference when you actually output (rendering process) the project.

 

Video files a different story altogether. DV AVI files up to about an hour are usually fine with no performance issues. Other compressed formats, like mpeg2 (mpg), divx, etc, it's usually better to woirk with files that are no longe then 15 - 20 min in length.