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eperegrina

DVD+RW hangs lead out

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I recently changed my internal DVD for a LG GSA-H20N to take advantage of the new DVD 16x speed.

When I write data or video_ts into a DVD+RW it starts ok, but hangs at lead out, and I have to force quit and restart. sometimes the dvd's have the data written even though lead out did not completed.

I tried using Dragon Burn and had no problems, so I believe it has something to do with Toast 7.1

 

I've seen in other topics that people have the similar problems with differenrt brands of DVD writers.

I've tested with different brands of DVD's; Sony, Samsung, Memorex, Pengo, and Vervatim with the same result.

I have a Dual Mac G5 1.8 ghz, with 2.5 GB ram and OSX 10.4.8

 

Any help out there?

Thanks

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I have no problems with dvd-r or -rw, haven't tried with dvd+r, no problems with cd's, I believe it is the latest since it can write to dvd-r at 16x and Dragon burn writes dvd+rw without problems in the same machine.

here it is:

HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H20N:

 

Firmware Revision: 1.01

Interconnect: ATAPI

Burn Support: Yes (Unsupported)

Profile Path: None

Cache: 2048 KB

Reads DVD: Yes

CD-Write: -R, -RW

DVD-Write: -R, -RAM, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL

Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes

Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes

Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO

Media:

Media Type: DVD+RW

Blank: Yes

Erasable: Yes

Overwritable: Yes

Appendable: Yes

 

My mac is a Dual 1.8 G5, with 2.5 Gb ram, mac OSX 10.4.8

updated with the full 10.4.8 combo, repaired permissions,

Am I missing something?

Thanks!

 

tried patchburn but still didn't work

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Are these new discs or ones that have been burned and erased? DVD+RW can easily be damaged by erasing in different drives or with different software.

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Are these new discs or ones that have been burned and erased? DVD+RW can easily be damaged by erasing in different drives or with different software.

I have tried both new and used... for the used ones I did erase them with toast (the long erase) and with disk utility.

Now that You mention it, I was using toast 7.1

I will try with a new one with toast 7.1.2

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Are these new discs or ones that have been burned and erased? DVD+RW can easily be damaged by erasing in different drives or with different software.

 

I have new tests in 2 different computers with the same kind of DVD writer and brand new DVD's (verbatim). Both recorded the DVD+R ok, But with DVD+RW both stalled at the point of writting lead out.

After about 6 minutes I got a message "select mode error"

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It sounds like a firmware problem. I know you have the most resent, but a mode select is usually a problem with the drive and media. Try burning at a slower speed and see if that helps.

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Thanks I will try that.

What it seems strange, is the fact that I burned the same data with NTI's Dragon Burn in the same disks, and had no problem.

I believe that there is something (new), a function or similar in toast that it is making it to be incompatible.

With Dragon Burn I was able to write sesions in DVD+RW and rewrite additional data without problem. I like toat better 'cause it gives time estimate and can write video DVDs out of the scratch, but specifically for DVD+RWs, DB is making a good job

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I have just discovered that I have this problem on my brand new Intel iMac using Toast 7.1.2 also. Using the same DVD+RW (which hangs on the lead-out with 7.1.2), and burning using Toast 7.1 on my PowerBook yields a NORMAL BURN.

 

If I burn from the Finder, using the very same DVD+RW, burning is successful.

 

So...I am no expert, but I would say this is a bug in Toast 7.1.2.

 

John. Can you point out how to do a proper uninstall of 7.1.2 so that I can hopefully go back to 7.1 again and not suffer with this Toast bug?

Edited by VirgilBoy

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It's a firmware bug. Apple drives have lots of problems. The drive is giving the wrong info to Toast. I burn DVD+RW all the time without issue in Toast.

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It's a firmware bug. Apple drives have lots of problems. The drive is giving the wrong info to Toast. I burn DVD+RW all the time without issue in Toast.

 

Freshburn - Well, that is not the case in this instance. I did neglect to mention that I am using my LaCie external DVD burner.

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If you have a Samsung drive in your Lacie, they are just as bad as Apple drives.

 

Did some Googling and this LaCie burner seems to be using either a Philips or BenQ mechanism. I have reverted to 7.1 and burning DVD+RW works perfectly again.

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So in your case, Toast 7.1 works, Toast 7.1.2 doesn't work? Correct? This is on the same piece of media, the same drive and the same content? Correct?

 

Are you doing quick erase or full erase?

 

For the Lacie drive, you can see the actual drive being used by Lacie in the Toast window.

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So in your case, Toast 7.1 works, Toast 7.1.2 doesn't work? Correct? This is on the same piece of media, the same drive and the same content? Correct?

 

Are you doing quick erase or full erase?

 

For the Lacie drive, you can see the actual drive being used by Lacie in the Toast window.

 

Correct. All factors are the same except the version of Toast. Toast 7.1 has previously, and again allows a proper burn with my Memorex DVD+RWs.

 

I am doing Quick Erase and unfortunately have no more "virgin" blanks to test with.

 

It only states ide-dvd DVDRW8651 for the LaCie, and that is the term I Googled to determine the actual manufacturer.

Edited by VirgilBoy

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Which format in Toast and what kind of content?

 

Data disk. Various kinds of data. All exhibit the same symptom. Today I tried Sony DVD+RW at 2X and 4X. Same..

 

Toast 7.1 STILL works perfectly, and the version of Toast is the ONLY variable in my tests.

 

A relative has purchased Toast 8 and invited me to experiment. Exactly the same problem with DVD+RW, so I will NOT be upgrading to Toast 8 :)

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Been using Toast for years. Recently I've been trying to burn to DVD+RW and DVD-RW with 7.1.2 and have been getting all kinds of error messages: Hardware Error Sense Code +0x44; Medium error Sense code 0x15; 0x02 Positioning error; Sense code 0x73, 0x03 etc.

 

No matter what speed I use I get errors. Flashed the latest upgrades to optical drive - same problems.

 

Downgraded to Toast 7.1 everything works just fine - no errors.

 

Go figure! Looks like a Toast problem to me.

 

OS 10.4.8, G5 1.8 ghz Tower, 1 gig ram, Pioneer DVR 109 optical

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Been using Toast for years. Recently I've been trying to burn to DVD+RW and DVD-RW with 7.1.2 and have been getting all kinds of error messages: Hardware Error Sense Code +0x44; Medium error Sense code 0x15; 0x02 Positioning error; Sense code 0x73, 0x03 etc.

 

No matter what speed I use I get errors. Flashed the latest upgrades to optical drive - same problems.

 

Downgraded to Toast 7.1 everything works just fine - no errors.

 

Go figure! Looks like a Toast problem to me.

 

OS 10.4.8, G5 1.8 ghz Tower, 1 gig ram, Pioneer DVR 109 optical

 

Exact same results here with an Intel iMac; 7.1.2 -- no burning to DVD-RW; drop back to 7.1, -- no problems.

 

I realize it's easy to point the finger at problems or quick with Apple burners, but the fact remains that Toast 7.1 works fine with those "problems" and 7.1.2 doesn't (and, according to other posts, version 8 won't either).

 

As much as I'd like to upgrade to version 8, I can't justify it if it means I have to buy a new DVD burner to use it. Perhaps Roxio should investigate a little further and find out exactly what changes to the Toast code removed compatibility with burning rewriteables, and either change it back or add the option of turning off whatever feature required the change to allow people to still burn rewritables?

 

-- Walt Sterdan

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Exact same results here with an Intel iMac; 7.1.2 -- no burning to DVD-RW; drop back to 7.1, -- no problems.

 

I realize it's easy to point the finger at problems or quick with Apple burners, but the fact remains that Toast 7.1 works fine with those "problems" and 7.1.2 doesn't (and, according to other posts, version 8 won't either).

 

As much as I'd like to upgrade to version 8, I can't justify it if it means I have to buy a new DVD burner to use it. Perhaps Roxio should investigate a little further and find out exactly what changes to the Toast code removed compatibility with burning rewriteables, and either change it back or add the option of turning off whatever feature required the change to allow people to still burn rewritables?

 

-- Walt Sterdan

I am using a LaCie external DVD burner (up-to-date firmware) and have problems with 7.12 and 8.0 with the lead-out. So it is NOT an Apple specific issue.

Edited by VirgilBoy

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