also having a problem burning DVD's

[LarryG]

I am also having a problem burning DVD's to play on my DVD players. I have valid Audio_TS and Video_TS files on my harddrive and can use DVD copy to burn a DVD. But these DVD's will not play on any of my players. They play just fine on both my Desktop and laptop. Am I missing something within my Roxio software? I have ver 7.5 all updates.

[cdanteek]

Next up top click the drive button. On the right side drive information. List the drive and firmware revision. Example mine BenQ DVD LS DW1655 firmware revision BCIB.

I want to know the model numbers of both settop players.

 

LarryG,

I need the drive information! What speed did you burn the above in ImgBurn?

 

cdanteek

[rich86]

Nope the DVD was a failure, was not copied correctly. Was just wondering if the Verbatim Disks are really as good a quality as they used to be.

 

I realize I'm coming in at the 11th hour with my $.02 - but I have a couple of thoughts/ideas/suggestions that might help.

 

I'm assuming you have the latest/greatest firmware in your drive. If not, you should update it as firmware updates are the way to teach your burner what proper write strategies are for newer media types.

 

I'm assuming you have properly created the video files and their directories on your hard disk to work from. Have you transcoded these files to fit on a single layer dvd media before running Roxio's disc copier program? I suggest you do that, so that when you burn your dvd, the only thing going on is the actual write/burn process. I never let the Roxio program perform transcoding during the actual write operation to dvd media.

 

Also be sure to give your Roxio program a "high" speed setting in your windows task manager and disable any non-essential resident programs while burning.

 

Select a write speed mid-way in the range of your media and drive capabilities. If I am burning using a 16x drive using 8x media, I choose a 4x burn speed. If you find that tiling and glitches show up more towards the end of your dvd when playing, this could be an indication of having a burn speed in excess of what the drive/media combination can handle comfortably, as whatever burn speed you've chosen is maximized towards the end of your burn (the outer rim of the media, where the fastest speeds occur within the average speed you have selected).

 

Select media that works best with your dvd drive. If you peruse videohelp.com, you will find some tables and user comments describing what media has worked best for others in your particular burner. You will also find a section that describes what types of media work in your dvd players also.

 

Lastly, pick up a few RW media so you can experiment until you've got the problem in hand without wasting a lot of write-once media.

[LarryG]

LarryG,

I need the drive information! What speed did you burn the above in ImgBurn?

 

cdanteek

 

Here is the other burn using Roxio

Media Information

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

Media code/Manufacturer ID MCC 03RG20

Format Type UDF 1.02

Volume Name SOME_MOVIE

Application id

Implementation id RoxioBurnEngine 2.1

Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 11/21/2006 16:30:35

Format Capacity 4.36GB(4.68GB)

Book Type DVD-R

Media Type DVD-R

Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown

Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps

2x Speed OPC beta 09

2x Speed OPC power 0B

2x Write Strategy field 1 14 87 78 90

2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00

4x Speed OPC beta 08

4x Speed OPC power 13

4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 11 0C 08

4x Write Strategy field 2 95 07 0E 0B

4x Write Strategy field 3 A0 00 20 00

4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06

4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1A

4x Write Strategy field 4 17 86 67 85

4x Write Strategy field 5 99 AB 3A 83 20 32

4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00

Data area starting sector 30000h

Data area end sector 22E6FFh

Linear Density 0.267um/bit

Track Density 0.74um/track

Number of Layers 1

 

Complete Media Code

00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0D 0E .l...@....R.....

00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 4D 43 43 20 30 33 00 04 52 47 32 .....MCC 03..RG2

00000020 30 20 20 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0B 14 0 .............

 

All burning speed was controled by roxio

 

 

 

Just checked, this burn actually works.

 

What other info do you need?

[cdanteek]

Media Type DVD-R

Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown

Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

All burning speed was controled by roxio

Just checked, this burn actually works.

 

SONY DRU-710A Dual DVD Recorder

Writing and reading speeds, the drive supports 16X (CAV) writing for DVD+R and 8X (Z-CLV) writing for DVD-R. RW formats can be both burned at 4X (CLV). The drive can also read DVD-ROM (pressed) up to 16X (CAV) while it offers 48X (P-CAV) / 24X (Z-CLV) specs for the CD formats.

 

Glad to hear a burned disc worked, remember what x speed Roxio set it at?

Your Sony DRU-710A is a (rebadged LiteOn SOHW-1633S/1653S) model.

Your X rating speed on Verbatim -R disc's are

Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

keep your burn at 8x or below. Make sure the software sets it there!

 

If you start to have unreadable disc's on the settop players. Do the disc quality tests in DVDInfo Pro. It should show the media as the problem!

 

cdanteek

[LarryG]

SONY DRU-710A Dual DVD Recorder

Writing and reading speeds, the drive supports 16X (CAV) writing for DVD+R and 8X (Z-CLV) writing for DVD-R. RW formats can be both burned at 4X (CLV). The drive can also read DVD-ROM (pressed) up to 16X (CAV) while it offers 48X (P-CAV) / 24X (Z-CLV) specs for the CD formats.

 

Glad to hear a burned disc worked, remember what x speed Roxio set it at?

Your Sony DRU-710A is a (rebadged LiteOn SOHW-1633S/1653S) model.

Your X rating speed on Verbatim -R disc's are

Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

keep your burn at 8x or below. Make sure the software sets it there!

 

If you start to have unreadable disc's on the settop players. Do the disc quality tests in DVDInfo Pro. It should show the media as the problem!

 

cdanteek

 

On a footnote, the DVD actually was a failure, had video ripping, hangups and all the stuff.

 

Now wondering if the Verbatim disks are the way to go?

[cdanteek]

On a footnote, the DVD actually was a failure, had video ripping, hangups and all the stuff.

 

Now wondering if the Verbatim disks are the way to go?

 

LarryG,

Completely lost me on that statement! Please explain so I can understand, the failure and (Verbatim) the way to go?

 

cdanteek

[malatekid]

I am also having a problem burning DVD's to play on my DVD players. I have valid Audio_TS and Video_TS files on my harddrive and can use DVD copy to burn a DVD. But these DVD's will not play on any of my players. They play just fine on both my Desktop and laptop. Am I missing something within my Roxio software? I have ver 7.5 all updates.

It could be a problem with the type of DVD you used for burning and the type of media that your settop DVD player accepts (this could be a problem for older versions of settop DVD player). Media can be DVD-R, DVD+R or DVD+RW. If you use the "dash" type and it doesn't play in your settop player, try the "plus" type (ask a friend if he/she has "plus" DVD disc to spare you before buying a package yourself).

[LarryG]

It could be a problem with the type of DVD you used for burning and the type of media that your settop DVD player accepts (this could be a problem for older versions of settop DVD player). Media can be DVD-R, DVD+R or DVD+RW. If you use the "dash" type and it doesn't play in your settop player, try the "plus" type (ask a friend if he/she has "plus" DVD disc to spare you before buying a package yourself).

 

I have tried DVD-r, DVD+r, and DVD+RW with the same results. DVD will play on my Computers, but will not play on my two DVD players. I think the software is not finallizing the dvd's for DVD, instead UDF 1.2.

 

This is happening on both my Desktop and laptop. So it has to be something common. I am beginning to think that maybe a Movie has placed something on the computers that will now not allow burning of DVD movies.

[tbrewst]

Larry,take a look at this thread.It's really about using files from a camcorder but it has a bunch of replies about using Disc Copier to make the discs.

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...c=11323&hl=

[lynn98109]

I have tried DVD-r, DVD+r, and DVD+RW with the same results. DVD will play on my Computers, but will not play on my two DVD players. I think the software is not finallizing the dvd's for DVD, instead UDF 1.2.

 

This is happening on both my Desktop and laptop. So it has to be something common. I am beginning to think that maybe a Movie has placed something on the computers that will now not allow burning of DVD movies.

Are you formatting the disc? That's the only thing that would bring .udf into the picture.

 

Use a BLANK blank, directly out of hte package or off the spindle. You need to create a disc with the special set of files recognized as "DVD Video". If you format the disc (besides a lot of other problems that would cause), you are creating a special type of file known only to computers. (BTW - different programs use formatting that is incompatible with other programs, and sometimes different Versions of the SAME program)

 

Lynn

[cdanteek]

Are you formatting the disc? That's the only thing that would bring .udf into the picture.

 

LarryG,

Don't let others distract you here! UDF 1.02

is a valid DVD Video format. Hands on experience will tell one that!

Open DVDInfo Pro, part of 7.5 check in tools.

Load a disc that won't play in a settop player and post this below it's the info button on top.

 

 

Media Information

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01

Media Product Revision Number 02h

Format Type UDF 1.02

Volume Name NEW

Application id

Implementation id Roxio

Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 4/ 4/2004 5:26:03

Format Capacity 4.36GB(4.68GB)

Book Type DVD+R

Media Type DVD+R

Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps

Data area starting sector 30000h

Data area end sector 22E21Fh

Linear Density 0.267um/bit

Track Density 0.74um/track

Number of Layers 1

 

Complete Media Code

00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?

00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 .......RICOHJPNR

00000020 30 31 02 38 23 54 37 09 00 3C 67 00 AC 62 16 18 01.8#T7..<g..b..

00000030 0B 0B 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................

 

Next up top click the drive button. On the right side drive information. List the drive and firmware revision. Example mine BenQ DVD LS DW1655 firmware revision BCIB.

I want to know the model numbers of both settop players.

 

cdanteek

[LarryG]

LarryG,

Completely lost me on that statement! Please explain so I can understand, the failure and (Verbatim) the way to go?

 

cdanteek

 

Nope the DVD was a failure, was not copied correctly. Was just wondering if the Verbatim Disks are really as good a quality as they used to be.

[LarryG]

I realize I'm coming in at the 11th hour with my $.02 - but I have a couple of thoughts/ideas/suggestions that might help.

 

I'm assuming you have the latest/greatest firmware in your drive. If not, you should update it as firmware updates are the way to teach your burner what proper write strategies are for newer media types.

 

I'm assuming you have properly created the video files and their directories on your hard disk to work from. Have you transcoded these files to fit on a single layer dvd media before running Roxio's disc copier program? I suggest you do that, so that when you burn your dvd, the only thing going on is the actual write/burn process. I never let the Roxio program perform transcoding during the actual write operation to dvd media.

 

Also be sure to give your Roxio program a "high" speed setting in your windows task manager and disable any non-essential resident programs while burning.

 

Select a write speed mid-way in the range of your media and drive capabilities. If I am burning using a 16x drive using 8x media, I choose a 4x burn speed. If you find that tiling and glitches show up more towards the end of your dvd when playing, this could be an indication of having a burn speed in excess of what the drive/media combination can handle comfortably, as whatever burn speed you've chosen is maximized towards the end of your burn (the outer rim of the media, where the fastest speeds occur within the average speed you have selected).

 

Select media that works best with your dvd drive. If you peruse videohelp.com, you will find some tables and user comments describing what media has worked best for others in your particular burner. You will also find a section that describes what types of media work in your dvd players also.

 

Lastly, pick up a few RW media so you can experiment until you've got the problem in hand without wasting a lot of write-once media.

 

My drives on desktop and laptops are all up to date. I tried copying a non protected DVD that I know works on my settop players, using Roxio disk copy. I burned on desktop at 8X. After burn I tried playing the dvd on my settop, and it said it could not play the DVD. I then decided to try the burn on another of our laptops, which does not have other burning software on it, only roxio. This copy would not also play on the settop. These copy's do play on my desktop and laptops without a problem. I am completely stumped. Thing the bugs me is it worked a couple of months ago without a hitch on my desktop.

 

Have you tried burning to an 'image file' instead of to the DVD? I know you said you used another program to make the image file, but I'd suggest you use DVD Builder to make the image file.

 

Then use Disk Copier to burn from the 'image file' (.iso) to the DVD.

 

I burn DVDs for members of a group I belong to and found that method burns DVDs that are compatable with more DVD players.

 

You also need to try + R and - R in your DVD player. Some will only play one type despite what the DVD Player specs say.

 

It's also possible that you got a bad batch of DVDs. I avoid buying DVDs at some stores because the packages frequently look like they have not been stored or handled properly.

 

I have used +RW, +R and -R with same results. Now that you mentioned it, the +RW actually worked on my downstairs Settop. I will have to try that again. My upstairs will only except -R DVD's.

 

I will try you idea on the image file. I used Imgburn to create the IMage than used Roxio to burn the dvd from the image, which had same results as before. Also burned the a dvd from Imgburn and same thing.

[Guest ml]

I will try you idea on the image file. I used Imgburn to create the IMage than used Roxio to burn the dvd from the image, which had same results as before. Also burned the a dvd from Imgburn and same thing.

 

So why are you using Imgburn to create the image file?

 

Use DVD Builder Advanced Settings to burn the Image File.

[Guest ml]

Nope the DVD was a failure, was not copied correctly. Was just wondering if the Verbatim Disks are really as good a quality as they used to be.

 

Have you tried burning to an 'image file' instead of to the DVD? I know you said you used another program to make the image file, but I'd suggest you use DVD Builder to make the image file.

 

Then use Disk Copier to burn from the 'image file' (.iso) to the DVD.

 

I burn DVDs for members of a group I belong to and found that method burns DVDs that are compatable with more DVD players.

 

You also need to try + R and - R in your DVD player. Some will only play one type despite what the DVD Player specs say.

 

It's also possible that you got a bad batch of DVDs. I avoid buying DVDs at some stores because the packages frequently look like they have not been stored or handled properly.

[LarryG]

LarryG,

Don't let others distract you here! UDF 1.02

is a valid DVD Video format. Hands on experience will tell one that!

Open DVDInfo Pro, part of 7.5 check in tools.

Load a disc that won't play in a settop player and post this below it's the info button on top.

Media Information

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01

Media Product Revision Number 02h

Format Type UDF 1.02

Volume Name NEW

Application id

Implementation id Roxio

Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 4/ 4/2004 5:26:03

Format Capacity 4.36GB(4.68GB)

Book Type DVD+R

Media Type DVD+R

Manufacturer Rated Speed 4.0x 5540KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps

Data area starting sector 30000h

Data area end sector 22E21Fh

Linear Density 0.267um/bit

Track Density 0.74um/track

Number of Layers 1

 

Complete Media Code

00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?

00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E 52 .......RICOHJPNR

00000020 30 31 02 38 23 54 37 09 00 3C 67 00 AC 62 16 18 01.8#T7..<g..b..

00000030 0B 0B 0A 0B 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 ................

 

Next up top click the drive button. On the right side drive information. List the drive and firmware revision. Example mine BenQ DVD LS DW1655 firmware revision BCIB.

I want to know the model numbers of both settop players.

 

cdanteek

 

OK, here is the result of the last burn, I used imgburn to create an disk image, then roxio to do the actual burning, to a disk off the stack, virgin so to speak.

 

I have also tried to have roxio to burn from the Video on harddrive, to no avail.

Media Information

Disc Regions are 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8

Media code/Manufacturer ID MCC 03RG20

Format Type UDF 1.02

Volume Name SOME_VIDEO

Application id mgBurn v2.1.0.0

Implementation id ImgBurn

Recording Date/Time (mm/dd/yyyy) 11/21/2006 15:21:13

Format Capacity 4.36GB(4.68GB)

Book Type DVD-R

Media Type DVD-R

Manufacturer Rated Speed Unknown

Available Write Descriptor CLV 8.0x 11080KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 6.0x 8310KBps

Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps

Write Strategy Speed 4.0x 5540KBps

2x Speed OPC beta 09

2x Speed OPC power 0B

2x Write Strategy field 1 14 87 78 90

2x Write Strategy field 2 88 80 00 00 00 00

4x Speed OPC beta 08

4x Speed OPC power 13

4x Write Strategy field 1 0D 11 0C 08

4x Write Strategy field 2 95 07 0E 0B

4x Write Strategy field 3 A0 00 20 00

4x Speed OPC beta multi-pulse 06

4x Speed OPC power multi-pulse 1A

4x Write Strategy field 4 17 86 67 85

4x Write Strategy field 5 99 AB 3A 83 20 32

4x Write Strategy field 6 00 00 D0 00 00

Data area starting sector 30000h

Data area end sector 22E12Fh

Linear Density 0.267um/bit

Track Density 0.74um/track

Number of Layers 1

 

Complete Media Code

00000000 00 6C 00 00 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0D 0E .l...@....R.....

00000010 88 9A 80 00 03 4D 43 43 20 30 33 00 04 52 47 32 .....MCC 03..RG2

00000020 30 20 20 00 05 88 80 00 00 00 02 00 06 09 0B 14 0 .............

 

 

OK< I am now attempting to burn from the actual Video source on the harddrive. Will post when complete. This is not an imgburn, but actual Video/audio stuff. Will post when done, or after school tonight.

 

Larry

 

OK, first settop is a Pioneer DVC302D and Panasonic PV8402

 

DVD Burner is Sone DRU710A, BYX5 current version

 

Using Verbatium DVD-r, DVD+r and DVD+RW From SAMS CLUB>