MUSIC DVD's

[peasmould]

Hello,

I am attempting to create music DVD's in Easy CD and DVD Burning 2. My first 3 attempts worked just fine approximately 6.5 hours of high quality music which has been created as one continuous track via my Cakewalk Sonar X3 program mixed down in 16 bit PCM then burned to disc in PCM PAL. Now I find that using the same process when I put in the burned DVD into the Cambridge Blu Ray player the notation "Root" appears and the disc will not play, the disc play well in my computer. I have labouriously ploughed through the manual and can see no reason why my efforts are now failing. The DVD Player is part of my HI FI set up therefore there is no "on screen" menu. I would be grateful if anyone help me with this.

Thank you in anticipation.

Stephen  

[Brendon]

Hello Stephen,

I'd like to help, but your question isn't very clear.   Are you saying that your first three attempts which "worked just fine" played well in both your computer and the Blu-Ray player, but your fourth (or subsequent) attempt won't play in the Blu-Ray player?  

What process (steps/menu items) did you use in Easy CD & DVD Burning 2, to make your discs?

Is the "DVD Player which is part of your Hi-Fi setup" the same as the Blu-Ray player, or a different device?

What media (discs) does your Blu-Ray player's manual say it will play?

Regards, Brendon

[peasmould]

Hello Brendon

Thank you for your reply. 

The steps I followed were 1. Open Create DVD Music Discs; 2. Add tracks - these were WAV files and mixed down to my hard drive; 3. Edit in Music Disc Creator and "switch" into that window; 4. In the Project Settings provide a project name and choose Uncompressed PCM and PAL; 5. Again add tracks - as there are now two sets of files in the window one needs to be removed; 6. Burn the remaining file with Sony DVR-R. As I said this process worked perfectly well for the fist 3 discs I created with all of those and subsequent discs falling within the parameters of the disc's capability i.e. 4.7gb. The Cambridge Blu Ray player is the same device that I am using which plays DVD Audio, Blu Ray, DVD and CD.

Regards

Stephen

[Brendon]

Thanks Stephen,

I'm guessing that the first three discs played properly but subsequent discs made the same way won't play properly.  Is that correct?

If you go to the top bar of the main menu of Easy CD & DVD Burning 2 to Tools > Get Disc Info the software will interrogate the disc in your optical drive and show you its characteristics.    Would you please go there and query a disc that your Blu-Ray player will play, and one that it won't.    Please then post a screenshot of the results for the two discs.   I'm hoping this utility will show us how the discs differ, so we can try to work out why they differ.
 

Brendon

 

[peasmould]

Hello Brendon

Thanks for your reply and yes you are correct 3 discs played properly but subsequent discs made in exactly the same way do not play. One aspect I have noticed is that with the discs that do play there are 2 items in the menu showing briefly on the front panel of the blu ray player the second which shows a number 2 and the length of time the disc plays that being the music track, what the first item is I do not know. With the discs that will not play there is only one item in the menu which is briefly shown as 0 and the time is briefly shown as 00:00:00 and then the front panel screen goes directly to "Root".  

I have put one disc that did play in the same burner a Toshiba and went into Disc Information. Unfortunately it will not allow me to take a screen shot and will not even allow me to cut and paste the information.

The information for the Selected Drive is the same as is the Inserted Disc save for the space used. All other information is as follows:

Working Disc:

Disc, Sessions and Tracks

DVD-R, Closed, Multiborder, DVD- Video (untitled)

Session 1

Used space 4396.5mb with 4 tracks - 01 Data Track Start 00;00 Length 1mb; 02 Data Track Start 00;20 Length 288kb; 03 Data track Start 00:15 Length 4384.9mb; 04 Data Track Start 500:10 Length 576kb

Non-Working Disc:

Disc, Sessions and Tracks

DVD-R, Closed, Multiborder, DVD- Video (Black Tie Vol 1)

Session 1

Used space 3119.5mb with 4 tracks - 01 Data Track Start 00;00 Length 1mb; 02 Data Track Start 00;20 Length 244kb; 03 Data track Start 01;15 Length 3107.8mb; 04 Data Track Start 354:32 Length 576kb

I hope this helps.

Regards

Stephen

 

[Brendon]

Hi Stephen,
Not knowing what operating system you're using, I can't point you towards a built-in screen-shot program.  However one neat wee program I use in all my Windows systems is "PrtScr" by Fiastarta.com      (HERE)   It's small, safe, free, and I'm using it in Windows XP, 7, 10, and 11 - in case it's useful for you.

It looks to me as if something is failing to stitch your file(s) into the Play process when the DVD is being made, so your player is just getting pointed to the root of the DVD instead of the audio/video stream.   It's not seeing the music track.   I'm not familiar with making Music DVDs from audio, so forgive me if I'm feeling my way in the dark.  I'm going to have to go make some tonight to learn from.

I'm still not understanding your steps 3 and 5.  Help me please.   Step 3, Meaning of "switch into that window" ??   
And why "add tracks again" in step 5, and then remove one ??     How do you know which one to remove? (could you be removing the wrong one?)

Regards, Brendon

[peasmould]

Hello Brendon

Thank you for those tips and tools I will no doubt find them useful.

Step 3 is a step in the process to "Edit in Music Disc Creator" and there is a button "switch now" which takes you into that editing window, once in that window the tracks or files that have previously been added do not show up but do once tracks or files are once again added in my case the files were named therefore I am able to remove the correct file, hence Step 5 why this happens I cannot say I am sure it should not.

No forgiveness necessary, I am most grateful for all the effort you are putting into this issue..

Regards

Stephen

[Brendon]

No worries     At least I'm inside.  Outside is getting a bit of a battering from a cyclone at the moment.
I'll be off playing with the software for a while.   If I don't get back to the forum tonight, I will be back tomorrow.

Brendon

[Brendon]

Stephen, I saw you logged on, but no success connecting with you.    Here's what I found out last night, and I hope it will answer some of your questions.   If not, please feel free to ask.

Firstly, a Music DVD is structured the same as a Video DVD.  Audio and Video are entwined in files with a .VOB extension (Video OBjects) and there are also control files (.INF) and backup control files (.BUP).   A menu system will either automatically play the listed items, or it will display a menu and wait for the user to make a selection.

I can't test this idea because I don't have your Blu-Ray player, but I wonder if your DVDs need the auto-play setting in Music Disc Creator checked like the screen-shot here, and perhaps it came un-checked after your third DVD?

 

You mentioned that when you "switch" from Music Disc Assistant to Music Disc Creator to continue editing, the list of tracks you've added doesn't show until you add them again.    This is not logical, but it's a design fault in the program rather than a bad install on your computer.     I tried it in Creator NXT 7, where it was copied from, and the same thing happens.    If it's of help to you, click on the area of Track Lists and the tracks that were hidden will suddenly appear.   (No, I don't know why.)

 

How are we going, have we fixed things?   Anything I missed?

Regards,
Brendon

[Brendon]

Hi,

I just heard back from Stephen.   It seems that the Autoplay was the thing he needed.   He recreated the discs that misbehaved, setting the Autoplay to On, and they all played properly for him.   He's happy. 

Brendon

[tbrewst]

Well done Sir