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The usual gripes about Roxio products... Parts of EMC8 work fine while others don't function very well. I am using DVD Copy in conjunction with DVD43 to make a backup copy of a commercial movie DVD that I own. DVD Copy works fine during the copy/cache phase but will not write to either a DVD-R or DVD+R. It keeps asking for a dual layer DVD. Apparently there is no longer a "compress and fit to DVD" option in the EMC8 update (I understand that this option was in the original release of EMC8 but disappeared in the update and later release of EMC8). Is there a fix on the way from Roxio (hmmm, yet another 100MB, um, "patch"?) or any other solution to this problem? I know other people have complained about the same thing already. Thanks.

 

-=SB

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Hi-

 

The usual gripes about Roxio products... Parts of EMC8 work fine while others don't function very well. I am using DVD Copy in conjunction with DVD43 to make a backup copy of a commercial movie DVD that I own. DVD Copy works fine during the copy/cache phase but will not write to either a DVD-R or DVD+R. It keeps asking for a dual layer DVD. Apparently there is no longer a "compress and fit to DVD" option in the EMC8 update (I understand that this option was in the original release of EMC8 but disappeared in the update and later release of EMC8). Is there a fix on the way from Roxio (hmmm, yet another 100MB, um, "patch"?) or any other solution to this problem? I know other people have complained about the same thing already. Thanks.

 

-=SB

Are you copying 'disc to disc', or are you copying to Image fileor video folders first. Then trying to copy that to the disc?

If the first, 'disc to disc', that shouldn't work, as it would be expecting the destination disc to be the same as the source.

 

There are 2 disc copying programs in EMC8. One based on Sonic RecordNow, and one based on Roxio disc Copier. So when you say you are using "DVD Copy", by that do you mean the one that runs from within the 'Home' screen, or that is the part of 'Disc Copier you are using?

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Hi Larry-

Thanks for the quick reply. I am using Disk Copier (it says Roxio at the bottom of the application window so I'm not sure if it is the Roxio or Sonic product) which is launched from Roxio Home or all by itself. Disc copier gives two options for copying:CD&DVD Copy or Video Compilation. I have CD&DVD COPY selected. This is a disc-to-disc copy and I would expect to have to use identical source/target disk types if there was no possibility of compressing the data to fit on a standard DVD target disc. However, several people in this forum have mentioned that there is supposed to be some kind of "fit-to-disc" file compression option that can be activated in Disc Copy that allows a movie DVD to be fitted to a standard 4.7GB DVD. In fact, Roxio's own literature alludes to this very option. BTW, I also own Roxio Easy DVD Copy which does compress the source movie files so they can fit onto a standard 4.7GB DVD, but during the installation of EMC8 an alert message comes up saying that it is recommended that Easy DVD Copy be removed before installing EMC8. Since EMC8 does not have the same DVD copy capabilities as Easy DVD Copy I'm not sure why they suggest that I remove an already installed piece of Roxio software and replace it with a newer one that has far less functionality (unless they also want me to drop another $50 for an update to Easy DVD Copy2). Someone mentioned using the "fit-to-DVD" option from MyDVD, but that seems to be tied to Videowave and doesn't seem to have anything to do with how Disc Copier operates. Got any ideas? Thanks again for the help.

-=Scott

 

 

 

Are you copying 'disc to disc', or are you copying to Image fileor video folders first. Then trying to copy that to the disc?

If the first, 'disc to disc', that shouldn't work, as it would be expecting the destination disc to be the same as the source.

 

There are 2 disc copying programs in EMC8. One based on Sonic RecordNow, and one based on Roxio disc Copier. So when you say you are using "DVD Copy", by that do you mean the one that runs from within the 'Home' screen, or that is the part of 'Disc Copier you are using?

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If you uses MY DVD there is an option to fit to disk under file-project settings- check box to fit to disk.

This is only applies for creating a disk. I Believ it will not work for an existing file

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Hi Larry-

Thanks for the quick reply. I am using Disk Copier (it says Roxio at the bottom of the application window so I'm not sure if it is the Roxio or Sonic product) which is launched from Roxio Home or all by itself. Disc copier gives two options for copying:CD&DVD Copy or Video Compilation. I have CD&DVD COPY selected. This is a disc-to-disc copy and I would expect to have to use identical source/target disk types if there was no possibility of compressing the data to fit on a standard DVD target disc. However, several people in this forum have mentioned that there is supposed to be some kind of "fit-to-disc" file compression option that can be activated in Disc Copy that allows a movie DVD to be fitted to a standard 4.7GB DVD. In fact, Roxio's own literature alludes to this very option. BTW, I also own Roxio Easy DVD Copy which does compress the source movie files so they can fit onto a standard 4.7GB DVD, but during the installation of EMC8 an alert message comes up saying that it is recommended that Easy DVD Copy be removed before installing EMC8. Since EMC8 does not have the same DVD copy capabilities as Easy DVD Copy I'm not sure why they suggest that I remove an already installed piece of Roxio software and replace it with a newer one that has far less functionality (unless they also want me to drop another $50 for an update to Easy DVD Copy2). Someone mentioned using the "fit-to-DVD" option from MyDVD, but that seems to be tied to Videowave and doesn't seem to have anything to do with how Disc Copier operates. Got any ideas? Thanks again for the help.

-=Scott

Scott,

The Easy DVD Copy that you had installed, was the version of Disc Copier that was in EMC 7 and 7.5

Easy DVD Copy2 is the same as the version in EMC8, which is the one you are using that isn't working for you.

You can re-install your other version of Easy DVD Copy if you want to. It can be installed at the same time as EMC 8 without conflicts.

Stay away from MyDVD for what you are trying to do. It is for authoring dvd's, not copying.

My suggestions are this:

1. re-install your earlier version of Easy DVD Copy and see if it works the way you are trying.

2. or, instead of copying directly to a disc, copy the original dvd to an image file (.ISO) on your hard drive, then use disc copier to copy the iso file to the new 4.7 disc. This method should compress it to fit.

You may want to try this out using dvd rw's at first to see what method will work for you. that way if something goes wrong, you can always erase it. Once you know which method is going to work, then use a dvd r disc.

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Thanks, Larry. I'll try that.

 

 

 

Scott,

The Easy DVD Copy that you had installed, was the version of Disc Copier that was in EMC 7 and 7.5

Easy DVD Copy2 is the same as the version in EMC8, which is the one you are using that isn't working for you.

You can re-install your other version of Easy DVD Copy if you want to. It can be installed at the same time as EMC 8 without conflicts.

Stay away from MyDVD for what you are trying to do. It is for authoring dvd's, not copying.

My suggestions are this:

1. re-install your earlier version of Easy DVD Copy and see if it works the way you are trying.

2. or, instead of copying directly to a disc, copy the original dvd to an image file (.ISO) on your hard drive, then use disc copier to copy the iso file to the new 4.7 disc. This method should compress it to fit.

You may want to try this out using dvd rw's at first to see what method will work for you. that way if something goes wrong, you can always erase it. Once you know which method is going to work, then use a dvd r disc.

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Nope. That didn't work at all. Now when I try to copy any CD/DVD my entire system hangs and I get two errors on shutdown that Windows XP cannot end Roxio Home and cannot end Roxio Disc Copier. I then have to manually shut down the computer and restart. Upon restart I cannot launch Disc Copier and have to do a second reboot in order to get Disc Copier to start. I have uninstalled/reinstalled EMC8 three times but it still hangs if I try to copy any discs using Disc Copier. I have had similar issues in the past with Roxio products (on different computers/operating systems) and should have learned then to steer clear of their software years ago. Stupid me (and apparently others as well). Sheesh...

 

 

Thanks, Larry. I'll try that.

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Well, Larry, I'm forced to revert back to Easy DVD Copy to make my backups. No matter what I do or how I configure EMC8 it always asks for a dual-layer DVD even after it said it had successfully compressed and prepared the data from the source movie DVD to fit onto a standard 4.7GB DVD (I tried both DVD+ and DVD- as target discs). Seems this is a pretty common problem based upon all of the other unhappy posts regarding the same difficulty. Bummer is that I spent a lot of money for EMC8 and it because of the problems I'm having it really doesn't do anything better than my old copy of EMC7. I could have saved my money and bought Nero instead--which I think I'll do in the future. Thanks again for you help.

 

 

Nope. That didn't work at all. Now when I try to copy any CD/DVD my entire system hangs and I get two errors on shutdown that Windows XP cannot end Roxio Home and cannot end Roxio Disc Copier. I then have to manually shut down the computer and restart. Upon restart I cannot launch Disc Copier and have to do a second reboot in order to get Disc Copier to start. I have uninstalled/reinstalled EMC8 three times but it still hangs if I try to copy any discs using Disc Copier. I have had similar issues in the past with Roxio products (on different computers/operating systems) and should have learned then to steer clear of their software years ago. Stupid me (and apparently others as well). Sheesh...

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Well, Larry, I'm forced to revert back to Easy DVD Copy to make my backups. No matter what I do or how I configure EMC8 it always asks for a dual-layer DVD even after it said it had successfully compressed and prepared the data from the source movie DVD to fit onto a standard 4.7GB DVD (I tried both DVD+ and DVD- as target discs). Seems this is a pretty common problem based upon all of the other unhappy posts regarding the same difficulty. Bummer is that I spent a lot of money for EMC8 and it because of the problems I'm having it really doesn't do anything better than my old copy of EMC7. I could have saved my money and bought Nero instead--which I think I'll do in the future. Thanks again for you help.
At least you have a way to still do the copying you want. I'd be surprised if there isn't an update at some point that will include a correction to EMC8's dvd copier not doing this. I know it did work at one time when it was in Beta testing.

 

Nero I guess may have been an option, altho personally I don't care for their product. Always caused me issues and didn't care for their UI, plus the don't have a user forum, like this one, where you can go to and get help or exchange tips & ideas with fellow users. Everyone has their own preference tho, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I've also read where nero, and others, have had quite a number of issues with their latest releases also. Almost sounds like all of them came out with the 'new' versions to make the Christmas deadline and they all still have some kind of issues to work out.

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I have the same problem trying to copy a disc. EMC8 asks for a DL disc. Hope they will fix it soon. Nero 7 works fine when compressing a video. Is a lot cheaper to purchase than EMC8.

Mike

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I have the same problem trying to copy a disc. EMC8 asks for a DL disc. Hope they will fix it soon. Nero 7 works fine when compressing a video. Is a lot cheaper to purchase than EMC8.

Mike

 

I have been able to copy and compress using EMC8.

 

Open Disc Copier. Select the ISO file that you want to burn. In advanced mode on Disc Copier Make sure the DVD-r/DVD+r is selected on disk size. Put your 4.7 gb media in the burner. When the Drive recognizes the media, select advanced copy (the other option is "Copy Now"). Wait until the advanced copy pop up allows you to click "ok". EMC8 will compress and burn on the fly.

 

 

Sometimes the copy will still demand the dl disk and tell you to change media, cancel and redo the burn step again.

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I have been able to copy and compress using EMC8.

 

Open Disc Copier. Select the ISO file that you want to burn. In advanced mode on Disc Copier Make sure the DVD-r/DVD+r is selected on disk size. Put your 4.7 gb media in the burner. When the Drive recognizes the media, select advanced copy (the other option is "Copy Now"). Wait until the advanced copy pop up allows you to click "ok". EMC8 will compress and burn on the fly.

Sometimes the copy will still demand the dl disk and tell you to change media, cancel and redo the burn step again.

 

 

I am trying to copy a non-encrypted DVD movie. "Copy DVD Movies" asks only for a DL disc, no compression available, It used to compress it in EMC7 and 7.5. So, how do you compress a commercial non-encrypted movie onto a 4.7 disc? That's my problem.

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I am trying to copy a non-encrypted DVD movie. "Copy DVD Movies" asks only for a DL disc, no compression available, It used to compress it in EMC7 and 7.5. So, how do you compress a commercial non-encrypted movie onto a 4.7 disc? That's my problem.

There are actually 2 disc copy programs included in EMC8. The "Copy DVD Movies" that you are using is probably the one built into the Home app, which is baseed on the Sonic RecordNow technology. You need to use the Disc Copier version based on the Roxio technology to be able to compress like you want to. Since I don;t have a pc with the program in front of me, the easiest way for you to get to it is thru Start->Programs->Roxio 8 and find the Disc Copier one. It will look very similar to the one you used in v7.

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There are actually 2 disc copy programs included in EMC8. The "Copy DVD Movies" that you are using is probably the one built into the Home app, which is baseed on the Sonic RecordNow technology. You need to use the Disc Copier version based on the Roxio technology to be able to compress like you want to. Since I don;t have a pc with the program in front of me, the easiest way for you to get to it is thru Start->Programs->Roxio 8 and find the Disc Copier one. It will look very similar to the one you used in v7.

Larry, you are right that the "Copy DVD Movies" is the Sonic version and "Copy Disc" is the Roxie version, EMC 8.05. However, that is the one that gives me the message, "Insert DL disc" and doesn't offer to compress the DVD unlike version 7 and 7.5. It looks exactly like version 7 and 7.5 without the option to select the whole movie or just the main movie and compression. Am I missing something???? Any help will be appreciated. I see lots of other complaints about this same problem and I think Roxio is at fault and doing nothing to correct this problem. My suggestion to anyone is not to buy EMC8 but to stick with 7 or 7.5 for the time being until Roxio addresses this problem.

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having the same problems but when i first intalled roxio it compressed them perfectly but as soon as i got and update ... done no more compressing .. right now when i click copy - copy dvd movies - then it opens disc copier here's a image of what i get no matter what you do it will not compress any more .. i would switch back to nero but roxio has the best virtual drive program .. just had to compain !!!...untitled.jpg

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Two steps: (1)Try copying from your disc to a disc image or DVD Video-Folder. (2) When that is done, copy from the disc image to your disc in the DVD writer. Two steps but it works for me most of the time, not every time, but most of the time. Best move, go back to EMC 7.5 and it still copies disc to disc with compression, every time! EMC 8 is bad news, esp. the update to 8.05. Good Luck.

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having the same problems but when i first intalled roxio it compressed them perfectly but as soon as i got and update ... done no more compressing .. right now when i click copy - copy dvd movies - then it opens disc copier here's a image of what i get no matter what you do it will not compress any more .. i would switch back to nero but roxio has the best virtual drive program .. just had to compain !!!...untitled.jpg

 

rustolem,I think it is compressing it.If you look at your screen you'll noticethat the bar at the bottom says "Content Quality:Good".This is compressed.If it wasn't compressed it would say "Content:Identical to Original".I think the thing is that you just don't have control over the compression.The program is automatically doing it.Now,it is saying that the source and destination are incompatible.This could have to do with using the drive emulator.You're using a file on your drive.What kind of file is it?Disc copier will take an iso file and turn it into a DVD.To do this though you tell it to browse for a file instead of a drive.I think something in your process is keeping it from working.

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was using an iso i made with roxio and just mounted it .. but that doesn't matter cause i have tried all dvd's in both my drives and they all have the same problem ... that the ******* darn bar at the bottom says its only going to under 4.7 gb but as soon as you hit copy it wants a dvd bigger then 4.7 ...and when i got the first 8.0 all this worked but since then dead... and i dont want to revert back to 7.5 cause you lose the great drive image program with 8.0

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was using an iso i made with roxio and just mounted it .. but that doesn't matter cause i have tried all dvd's in both my drives and they all have the same problem ... that the ******* darn bar at the bottom says its only going to under 4.7 gb but as soon as you hit copy it wants a dvd bigger then 4.7 ...and when i got the first 8.0 all this worked but since then dead... and i dont want to revert back to 7.5 cause you lose the great drive image program with 8.0

When you burn to iso do you also have the "burn to disc" checkmark cleared?

BTW, EMC 7.5 also has a "great drive image program".

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I still think your problem is in your procedure.You've mounted that iso,which means disc copier thinks its a drive.I'm not sure it will compress drive to drive.I think if you just browse to the iso as a file and then try to copy it you should be able to get it to use a 4.7Gb disc.Disc copier will take that iso and compress it as needed to fit whatever disc you put in.

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I still think your problem is in your procedure.You've mounted that iso,which means disc copier thinks its a drive.I'm not sure it will compress drive to drive.I think if you just browse to the iso as a file and then try to copy it you should be able to get it to use a 4.7Gb disc.Disc copier will take that iso and compress it as needed to fir whatever disc you put in.

 

Terry is correct. Why in the hell would you be fooling with a virtual drive to burn a DVD? It doesn't make sense.

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