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Vista RTM is the same as the public release version. The beta version was different, but not much. If it was really so different, how come SO many hardware and software suppliers were able to release production versions of very complex items on production day with zero problems? Answer - it wasn't!

 

I'm no trying to argue, but the reason there is no update on release date is nobodys fault but Roxio/Sonic Solutions, and for the sake of their users (and their bank balance!) I just hope they get on and fix things soon.

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My test system already downloaded the x64 updates.....didn't even know they had any out yet.

Wonder what evil they're up to!

 

You like me have been testing this thing for a wile for Microsoft, and that downloading doesn't surprise you?, i see alot of stuff going on behind the seans on my system, and there is more I'm sure that MS can do and get that even testers haven't worked out yet... but the starting gun has gone off, and the users are racing so I'm sure these things will be un-covered as this gets rolling

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Vista RTM is the same as the public release version. The beta version was different, but not much. If it was really so different, how come SO many hardware and software suppliers were able to release production versions of very complex items on production day with zero problems? Answer - it wasn't!

 

I'm no trying to argue, but the reason there is no update on release date is nobodys fault but Roxio/Sonic Solutions, and for the sake of their users (and their bank balance!) I just hope they get on and fix things soon.

 

 

Have to say that Russell's version is probably more correct. I see Nero have theirs ready.

Have manged to get Acronis True Image, Diskeeper, Adobe Reader, Systetm Mechanic, Ulead Video Studio to name a few...

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Vista RTM is the same as the public release version. The beta version was different, but not much. If it was really so different, how come SO many hardware and software suppliers were able to release production versions of very complex items on production day with zero problems? Answer - it wasn't!

 

I'm no trying to argue, but the reason there is no update on release date is nobodys fault but Roxio/Sonic Solutions, and for the sake of their users (and their bank balance!) I just hope they get on and fix things soon.

I'm not going to argue who's fault it is but twice I've booted up my Vista system and there were already updates available so I'm sure there are 'some' changes. Are they enough to warrant Roxio waiting? I don't know but I do know I'd rather them wait and put out the correct work than rush and put out a problem.

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Silver - go read this (and this is a MS group)

 

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/communiti...amp;m=1&p=1

 

I think you have posted the wrong link. This one above is one person who had installation problems with Vista, then lots of replies saying "works ok for me mate". Not sure where this mentions the RTM being any different to the public release version? Infact the original post was submitted at the beginning of November just when RTM was released - ie, before it could be compared to the release version. And, because it was RTM, at the time of installation, many drivers and software would have been in beta or not yet available. So, I can only assume this is the wrong link??

 

PS - being a "microsoft group" means pretty much nothing, it could have been posted here or any other forum!

 

Anyway back to the point in hand. Still no Sonic DLA removal tool, and still no ETA :)

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........Anyway back to the point in hand. Still no Sonic DLA removal tool, and still no ETA :)
Well, it's only been a few days since MS released the updates that caused the problem to occur. I'd have a bit of patience waiting for a "fix" before getting worked up about it.
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Put it like this - would you accept a repair for your car that was done in a matter of minutes and would you feel safe in it?

 

It takes time to find out what's wrong, what's needed, put it together and then test it.

OK - but there were now > 2 month to find out... If there are still problems to fix together with ms or third party then a small statement from roxio would be fine.

 

Currently once again the statement that there will be a fix ASA the first public release of vista is available is defininetly wrong. Again I want to point out that if you promise something you should be able to deliver what you promised...

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The statement was that a patch would be made available AFTER Vista was publicly released. OK - it was released yesterday, already has patches from MS to fix bugs. If you had an RTM version you should have anticipated patching (anyone who did with XP would know all about that because on day 0 it was hit with a LOT of patches).

 

To issue a patch for an OS that wasn't final (even allowing for 0 day patching) is crazy. Do you want one that just papers over cracks or do you want one that is solid?

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To issue a patch for an OS that wasn't final (even allowing for 0 day patching) is crazy. Do you want one that just papers over cracks or do you want one that is solid?
There will never be a FINAL version since there is always one bug left... where is the problem to release a new bundle fixing the currently known important issues?
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Well, it's only been a few days since MS released the updates that caused the problem to occur. I'd have a bit of patience waiting for a "fix" before getting worked up about it.

 

I removed the update and the problem is still there, I do not believe the update is the cause of the problem. Considering that this is affecting so many people (I know of 8 Vista installations from colleagues and friends, ALL of whom are getting this error - there must be tens of thousands of people getting it!) I would say it's pretty serious.

 

The thing is, I don't even want a revised driver, or a fix, I just want to know how to uninstall it, and nobody can help!

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There will never be a FINAL version since there is always one bug left... where is the problem to release a new bundle fixing the currently known important issues?

The problem is that until Vista actually hit the streets, nobody KNEW what the 'important' issues were. Sure there were RTM issues but even then it does take time to check what the issues are, write the patches, test them, re-write and then issue.

The patch will be released when it's ready - I don't work for Roxio - in fact I'm not even in the same continent, so I can't say just when it WILL be ready (only the software team have the answer there and as none of them ever come here to the users' forum, no-one here would have a clue)

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I can see the apology posts now. ROFLMAO!

I know you're hoping that I'll hold my breath but ...... !

 

Hey I was just wanderin' if it would be possible for Roxio to actually post an ISO or EXE final Vista-ready release ? I think that would resolve any installation issues.

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The problem is that until Vista actually hit the streets, nobody KNEW what the 'important' issues were. Sure there were RTM issues but even then it does take time to check what the issues are, write the patches, test them, re-write and then issue.

The patch will be released when it's ready - I don't work for Roxio - in fact I'm not even in the same continent, so I can't say just when it WILL be ready (only the software team have the answer there and as none of them ever come here to the users' forum, no-one here would have a clue)

User forum? Hmmm - there is a roxio logo on the top, it is listed under support so it should be a support forum moderated by roxio...

nobody knew?? If you want to say that the bahaviour of the RTM is different from the actual one (with patches), then this would be true also every month after a MS pathday... would this also be a reason to never deliver patches :) OK OK we should stopp here but please understand that from my and also many others customers (users) point of view the current situation is a "little bit" frustrating...

 

cheers

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It is a user forum actually - we do keep telling people that but nobody believes us :)

 

One thing to watch tho - there are basically TWO versions of Vista (and I'm not talking about the Basic/Home/Ultimate) - one for the US and another for the EU (the EU will be getting an 'N' version which will be stripped of all Windows Media-related technologies by decree of an antitrust ruling by the EU).

 

But then - we're being forced to pay DOUBLE the US price if we want it

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Personally I foresee a double pronged approach - the patch and also a removal tool for the DLA problem. Later releases will probably have the DLA fix incorporated - the rest of us will just have to remove it by whatever means turn up.

 

Hopefully MS won't have done any more of their 'let's update and not worry what it may to to apps' patches :)

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One thing to watch tho - there are basically TWO versions of Vista (and I'm not talking about the Basic/Home/Ultimate) - one for the US and another for the EU (the EU will be getting an 'N' version which will be stripped of all Windows Media-related technologies by decree of an antitrust ruling by the EU).

 

But then - we're being forced to pay DOUBLE the US price if we want it

Will there really be a EU version, currently I do not know any restrictions. I use an MSDN version but also in the news I did not see any comments on ... oops wait http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/84560 there is one. There will be changes on Internet search, Licensing and also a mediaplayer free version (optional).

 

But anyway please roxio deploy a patch at least for the international version of vista...

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You seem to expect all repairs and servicing to be done before the car even got started on the assembly line

 

30th January to 1st February is scarcely 'three months'

Last I looked November 8th to February 1st was nearly 3 months. I'll knock off a few days though since we aren't to the 8th yet. :) Would 60 work days sound better ? That's allowing single days off for Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years which is more than I get.

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You don't get it do you?

 

Vista was NOT released to the public until the 30th January

It WAS changed between RTM and public release

Go read the MS boards before coming here spouting a load of half-baked suppositions

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Put it like this - would you accept a repair for your car that was done in a matter of minutes and would you feel safe in it?

 

If it took my mechanic 3 months to fix a bug, I'd be getting my car back and a refund for any monies paid. Also they'd be paying for the car I use in the mean time.

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