lynn98109 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 A BBC report confirms - you don't own a Vista system. And Microsoft can make changes at will - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6319845.stm When Microsoft introduced Windows 95 more than a decade ago, it adopted the Rolling Stones Start Me Up as its theme song. As millions of consumers contemplate the company's latest upgrade, the legal and technological restrictions may leave them singing You Can't Always Get What You Want. Buyer, beware Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 All you really own is the bit of plastic it was written on - not a thing more, along with the wrapping. Total value? A couple of coppers. And from what MS says in the EULA, you don't even own anything on your computer because they can disable it if they feel like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpabruce Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I guess I wonder who really wants Vista, and why. I don't want it, at least for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerman Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 I understand XP works bascially the same way except that with Vista, the lawyers got even more technical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 More MS got tighter control with the constant 'activation' - if you aren't online it stops working. XP will continue to work without an internet conn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn98109 Posted February 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 More MS got tighter control with the constant 'activation' - if you aren't online it stops working. XP will continue to work without an internet conn Hmmm. It wouldn't approve of the fact I keep my CDs OFF-line, would it. Another reason to stick with W2K - if desperate, I have a WinXP SP2 as a backup compuer Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ999 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 To be honest I don't really care ... I've installed Vista, am using it as a media centre PC, and I think it's great. You're all paranoid The only bad thing about Vista is the Sonic DLA error that Roxio haven't released a fix for yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Best go check what is being said in a lot of newsgroups about it - Techrepublic has a few threads on it Basically - so long as you don't object to VERY tight DRM control, deliberate degradation of HD DVD playback, constant checking on the OS for 'legitimacy' and the fact that you basically gave MS the authority to do what they want to YOUR computer, I suppose it would be great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ999 Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Best go check what is being said in a lot of newsgroups about it - Techrepublic has a few threads on it Basically - so long as you don't object to VERY tight DRM control, deliberate degradation of HD DVD playback, constant checking on the OS for 'legitimacy' and the fact that you basically gave MS the authority to do what they want to YOUR computer, I suppose it would be great The only people who should be worried are hackers and pirates. Constantly checking the OS for legitimacy - why would anybody even THINK about listing that as an issue?? PS, thanks for posting the DLA removal tool but unfortunately it doesn't work for me. I did a restore, and the removal tool has now removed the software from my uninstall list, but the driver error is still there. I'm sure there is something simple that I'm missing - I'll keep trying, and if I find a solution I'll post it here so you can add it to the forum. Cheers, Russ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 It actually becomes an issue for legitimate users if they don't have an internet connection. Think on it - you're away for a few weeeks on holiday, trying to watch a DVD or something on the laptop - and it suddenly decides to de-activate because it can't connect to the servers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpabruce Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 To be honest I don't really care ... I've installed Vista, am using it as a media centre PC, and I think it's great. You're all paranoid The only bad thing about Vista is the Sonic DLA error that Roxio haven't released a fix for yet! The only bad thing about Vista is everything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golinux Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 It actually becomes an issue for legitimate users if they don't have an internet connection. So what does this mean for dialup users like me?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Two options - either connect fast if it decides it wants to re-activate or don't bother with it in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golinux Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Two options - either connect fast if it decides it wants to re-activate or don't bother with it in the first place Ha! My question was of course hypothetical . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpabruce Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Ha! My question was of course hypothetical . . . Actually, in your case, I think that it was rhetorical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn98109 Posted February 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 I'm now happily connecting to the internet with W2K, which is new to me, if not exactly new. And in case of emergency, I have a WinXP SP2 sitting there. That should hold me until I'm up to speed for Linux Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ999 Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Think on it - you're away for a few weeeks on holiday, trying to watch a DVD or something on the laptop - and it suddenly decides to de-activate because it can't connect to the servers Hey when I go on holiday the laptop stays at home But if I did take it with me, well it's got 3G built in, so good old MS can check up on me whenever they like !! I see your point but realistically I am sure that the OS won't deactivate simply because it's not connected to the internet. I expect it's more that if it IS connected, it will do a check. Just because you've read something on a forum somewhere doesn't make it true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Actually the ones who won't have problems with the constant activation will be the pirates (they'll have that bit cracked) Look at XP and the WGA tool - every time MS updates that, it's broken inside 24 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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