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Compliant BD Mpeg Encodes from Tsunami?

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I would be very curious to know if anyone else has been able to encode compliant BD streams using Tsunami. I have seen the posts about Procoder, etc.

 

I could not get Tsunami (TMPEGenc (4.0 or 2.5)) to produce compliant streams. I have made compliant streams using the MainConcept (Adobe Media) encoder in Premier Pro (using the default 1080i setting).

 

I would be very happy to take a copy of the BD recordable spec and my trusty Mpeg stream analyzer and figure out what is wrong. Sadly, the Blu-Ray disc authority wants me to pay $2500 for the privilege of perusing the spec. Sorry, I don't think so. So much for open specs.

 

Tsunami says they can't help because they have no idea what Sonic considers wrong with the stream. If Sonic will tell them what is wrong they will fix it or give me my money back. Even if Sonic can not release the spec due to Blu-Ray restrictions maybe they could at least indicate what is non-compliant with a given sample?

 

So, where can I send a 10 second clip from Tsunami which is rejected by DVDit?

I can also send the good one from MainConcept.

 

Thanks,

Bill

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Bill I made one which works in 50i 1920x1080 email me at moving at bluewin dot ch

 

Can you post your settings? :)

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Thanks to Scott for giving me the needed debug info.

 

Here's how to make an TMPGEnc 4.0 setting which produced 1920x1080i60 video files which DVDit accepts as BD compliant. Should work for other HD formats with obvious changes. NB: I have yet to actually burn a disk and check playback with these setting. I'll report any problems.

 

Load the MPEG File Output Template and make the following settings:

 

Output Stream Type: Elementary stream (video only)

 

Video Menu:

Stream Format: MPEG-2 Video

Profile & Level: MP@HL

Size: 1920x1080

Aspect Ratio: 16x9

Framerate: 29.97 fps

Rate Control: VBR (Bitrate: 15000, Max:18500, Min:4000) Should be able to jiggle this or use CBR

VBV Buffer Size: 488

Video System: NTSC

DC Component...: 9 bit

Display Mode: Interlace

Field order: Top Field First

Motion Search...: Standard

 

GOP Menu:

I pictures: 1

P Pictures: 5

B pictures: 2

GOP frames: 18

check all three boxes

 

Quantization Menu:

Matrix Type: Default

 

Other Menu:

Check Optimize Half Pixel and Encode keyframe

For each Colorspace setting select ITU-R BT.709 (this is important!)

 

You can then save this as a custom template.

 

Good Luck and Thanks Scott,

Bill

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Thanks to Scott for giving me the needed debug info.

 

Here's how to make an TMPGEnc 4.0 setting which produced 1920x1080i60 video files which DVDit accepts as BD compliant. Should work for other HD formats with obvious changes. NB: I have yet to actually burn a disk and check playback with these setting. I'll report any problems.

 

Load the MPEG File Output Template and make the following settings:

 

Output Stream Type: Elementary stream (video only)

 

Video Menu:

Stream Format: MPEG-2 Video

Profile & Level: MP@HL

Size: 1920x1080

Aspect Ratio: 16x9

Framerate: 29.97 fps

Rate Control: VBR (Bitrate: 15000, Max:18500, Min:4000) Should be able to jiggle this or use CBR

VBV Buffer Size: 488

Video System: NTSC

DC Component...: 9 bit

Display Mode: Interlace

Field order: Top Field First

Motion Search...: Standard

 

GOP Menu:

I pictures: 1

P Pictures: 5

B pictures: 2

GOP frames: 18

check all three boxes

 

Quantization Menu:

Matrix Type: Default

 

Other Menu:

Check Optimize Half Pixel and Encode keyframe

For each Colorspace setting select ITU-R BT.709 (this is important!)

 

You can then save this as a custom template.

 

Good Luck and Thanks Scott,

Bill

 

Thanks Bill.

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