EMC 9 Media Import

[Whatafreak]

I have successfully installed EMC 9, and everything seems to be working apart from this one issue I am having.

 

Media Import crashes when I try to use my TV tuner card as the input. Ordinarily I would just chalk this up to some kind of incompatibility, however, I recently reinstalled Windows XP Pro due to some other issues I was having recently. Prior to re-installation of XP Pro, Media Import easily captured from my TV Tuner card with no issues whatsoever. It should be noted at this point that my normal TV software apps are still functioning as they did before I reinstalled. Trying to capture with Windows Movie Maker does not work as it is not able to use the internal sound that the card utilizes, but it is able to grab the video. All of this leads me to believe that the issue is with EMC 9.

 

The error I get is the basic "this application has created an error and needs to close" message that Windows hands out when applications crash. Some of the details are below.

 

AppName: mediacapture9.exe AppVer: 9.0.2.22 ModName: nevideohd.ax ModVer: 4.6.15.0 Offset: 00008b8d

 

Any ideas on what I can do to get Media Import to use my TV tuner card as an input device again?

 

Relevant system specs:

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2

Processor: Intel® Pentium® 4 CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)

Memory: 1024MB RAM

DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT

Display Memory: 256.0 MB

Drive: C: Free Space (225.1 GB) Total Space (286.2 GB)

Drive: D: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D

TV Tuner: ATI HDTV Wonder (PCI)

 

As I just reinstalled, everything has absolutely the latest drivers I can get my hands on. I have IE6 and WMP9. I have read in the forums that updating those causes problems so I have resisted to this point.

 

Thanks for any help!

 

-Whatafreak

[wall]

One of the things that really slows things down is Media Watch - that can be turned off if you disable RoxWatchTray9 in msconfig.

 

Try that and see if there's any improvement

 

you're right about the media manager, turned it off and things seem to be running quicker now.

 

Partts of Nero (especially InCD) will cause problems - InCD is a packet writing program and no two packet writing programs can co-exist on the same machine

 

 

Uninstalled Nero, pvr150 video import still crashed.

[gi7omy]

It is an unusual one - normally the only problem that ever occurs is InCD clashes with D2D but that's definitely one to keep an eye on.

 

Thanks for the heads up there

[Whatafreak]

Nero mist have hiccuped during the uninstall is all I can think of.

 

Actually, I just got finished installing Nero again, and guess what problem came back? I decided to get drastic and unregister the filter completely. Lo-and-behold, Media Import works fine again! I don't know how this is going to affect Nero in the future, but I use it primarily for burning anyway. I have Nero Ultra v7.7.5.1.

 

Command I used:

 

Start > Run

regsvr32 /u "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ahead\DSFilter\NeVideoHD.ax"

 

This will unregister the filter. Re-registering the filter is easy if necessary, just remove the /u from the command.

 

I hope this helps someone in the future.

[gi7omy]

Can anything be done about the thread jacking?

 

Wish there was - but it always happens

When we hijack a thread tho - it gets crazy, but we're crazy to start with

 

I un-installed both Nero and Roxio and then re-installed Roxio (always restarting where prompted) only to have.. SUCCESS!

Roxio Media Import now accepts my TV Tuner as a valid video input and it does not crash. I am going to attempt installing Nero again at this point and will come back with my results. Mayhaps I installed in the wrong order last time?

 

Great - glad you got it sorted - Nero mist have hiccuped during the uninstall is all I can think of

[Whatafreak]

Need to find out why Media Import is trying to use 'nevideohd.ax'. How does the ATI HDTuner show up in Media Import with its two tuners? Are the tuners listed separately?

 

I don't know why it is trying to use the Nero Codec. In Media Import on the Video tab, it lists my card as an analog TV tuner. I want to make it clear that it does NOT capture HDTV, only analog. I have been using it to capture from a VCR so I can edit and place on DVD's.

 

The stupid thing is that it worked before and I had Nero installed and everything was playing nicely together.

 

I am in the process of un-installing Nero, then I will uninstall Roxio and reinstall it to see if any changes occur.

 

Can anything be done about the thread jacking?

 

 

*UPDATE*

I un-installed both Nero and Roxio and then re-installed Roxio (always restarting where prompted) only to have.. SUCCESS!

Roxio Media Import now accepts my TV Tuner as a valid video input and it does not crash. I am going to attempt installing Nero again at this point and will come back with my results. Mayhaps I installed in the wrong order last time?

[wall]

AS far as I know, the trial is fully functional.

 

1) if you are talking about rotating as a 'motion' over time, that is not available in EMC 9. There are some preset 'fly in/out and rotate' motions for overlays.

 

2) Videowave/MyDVD fully support stereo audio, but it does not support surround sound.

 

 

#1-interesting, called roxio yesterday and at first they said no and put me on hold to check, came back and said it was supported in the full version, something about 3D motion. I remember seeing something about 3d text rotation (in the HELP) , but he assured me you can actually have rotation "motion" on slideshow picture along with the pan&zoom. will have to dig deeper on this.

 

#2-have to figure out why only one speaker is working when playing back a video file.

[ggrussell]

AS far as I know, the trial is fully functional.

 

1) if you are talking about rotating as a 'motion' over time, that is not available in EMC 9. There are some preset 'fly in/out and rotate' motions for overlays.

 

2) Videowave/MyDVD fully support stereo audio, but it does not support surround sound.

[wall]

I use GBPVR (LOVE IT!) and the MVP and it's not effected my use of Media Import but I never tried shutting down the service with earlier versions to see if thats why it didn't work then.

What extender do you use?

 

The MVP is my extender and I use the GBPVR software instead of the Happauge firmware. I wish it didn't affect EMC9, but in my case, it appears to...something I'll have to remember if I want to import video from the same tv card. Maybe the full version won't have this bug, wishfull thinking?

 

Dont' mean to hijack this thread but I have a couple of questions about missing or partial functions of the trial version and whether the full version has them:

1) I am creating a slideshow and use the pan & zoom quite a bit, I remember from other slideshow programs being able to add a rotation on the picture, not the 90' rotate feature, but just a slight rotation along with the pan & zoom.

2) When I save a video (with audio) to a video file using EMC the output seems to be mono, audio is only from one speaker.

Are both of these just because I am using the trial version?

[Beerman]

SOLVED!!!!

 

just poking around some of the behind-the-scenes programs that were running and I use a program called GBPVR that works with my happauge mediaMVP media extender hardware. It runs in the background waiting for input from the PVR150 to send to the media extender and eventually to my TV. I guess EMC9 does not like the fact that something else is looking for input from the same tv card (funny though, XPMCE doesn't seem to mind) and everything just crashes. Anyway, shut down GBPVR and video input works now.

 

Thanks all!

I use GBPVR (LOVE IT!) and the MVP and it's not effected my use of Media Import but I never tried shutting down the service with earlier versions to see if thats why it didn't work then.

What extender do you use?

[ggrussell]

Thanks for letting us know. GOOD info for future reference.

[wall]

SOLVED!!!!

 

just poking around some of the behind-the-scenes programs that were running and I use a program called GBPVR that works with my happauge mediaMVP media extender hardware. It runs in the background waiting for input from the PVR150 to send to the media extender and eventually to my TV. I guess EMC9 does not like the fact that something else is looking for input from the same tv card (funny though, XPMCE doesn't seem to mind) and everything just crashes. Anyway, shut down GBPVR and video input works now.

 

Thanks all!

[gi7omy]

That Nero codec seems to be causing a lot of problems. I just googled and there are more complaints about it than you could fit in a book.

 

It was supposed to be uninstalled when Nero was, but it looks as if it has been left behind

[ggrussell]

Need to find out why Media Import is trying to use 'nevideohd.ax'. How does the ATI HDTuner show up in Media Import with its two tuners? Are the tuners listed separately?

[gi7omy]

Do you have IE7 and/or WMP11 installed? They also are being reported as causing problems

[gi7omy]

DLA and Drag to Disc are as bad - in fact, NO packet writing system is reliable

[wall]

Partts of Nero (especially InCD) will cause problems - InCD is a packet writing program and no two packet writing programs can co-exist on the same machine

 

 

OK, i'll try that, but I know I chose not to have INCD installed, I found it was not reliable.

[gi7omy]

Yeh, I have a nero oem program that came with my dvd burner, is there a potential for some sort of conflict?

 

Partts of Nero (especially InCD) will cause problems - InCD is a packet writing program and no two packet writing programs can co-exist on the same machine

[wall]

Do you have Nero installed? Try removing it and see if the problem goes away.

 

For the slowness, EMC9 has a fucntion for Media Manager that indexes media files in the background. Look in the systray for 'watched folders'. Right click and turn it off. You can go into Media Manger to turn it off permanently. Since I don't use any of the Media Manager features, I just uninstalled Media Manager.

 

 

Yeh, I have a nero oem program that came with my dvd burner, is there a potential for some sort of conflict?

[gi7omy]

One of the things that really slows things down is Media Watch - that can be turned off if you disable RoxWatchTray9 in msconfig.

 

Try that and see if there's any improvement

[ggrussell]

AppName: mediacapture9.exe AppVer: 9.0.2.22 ModName: nevideohd.ax ModVer: 4.6.15.0 Offset: 00008b8d

Do you have Nero installed? Try removing it and see if the problem goes away.

 

For the slowness, EMC9 has a fucntion for Media Manager that indexes media files in the background. Look in the systray for 'watched folders'. Right click and turn it off. You can go into Media Manger to turn it off permanently. Since I don't use any of the Media Manager features, I just uninstalled Media Manager.

[wall]

Some other people are using the Hauppage cards with no problems - was that a one off or is it constantly happening?

 

Also, have you tried hauppage for updated drivers?

 

 

It is constant, sometimes it may be a couple of minutes before it crashes, other times it is instant as soon as I select the card from the drop down menu. I am pretty sure I have all the updated drivers for the pvr150, will double check though. it is the "MCE" version that happauge put out (the one that comes with the MCE remote). When the computer re-boots, the windows error screen "windows has suffered a major error, do you wish to report"....blah blah blah.

 

I am also concerned how slow my system runs with this program and my system in no slouch! Couldn't imagine this program on a 2yr or older machine!

[Beerman]

I am currently using the trial version and was going to purchase the full version today. Howver, I noticed when I tried to capture video off my Happauge pvr150tv card my computer crashed/rebooted. I am obviously rethinking my purchase now, and thoughts?

EMC9 was the first version to work well with my PVR500 card which uses the same drivers as the 150. Check the Hauppauge web site and get the latest drivers. If they don't work, try here.

[gi7omy]

Some other people are using the Hauppage cards with no problems - was that a one off or is it constantly happening?

 

Also, have you tried hauppage for updated drivers?

[wall]

I am currently using the trial version and was going to purchase the full version today. Howver, I noticed when I tried to capture video off my Happauge pvr150tv card my computer crashed/rebooted. I am obviously rethinking my purchase now, and thoughts?

[Beerman]

Not all tuner cards work well with EMC though I'm not sure about yours. Can't say that I've seen a post from anyone with an HDTV card but hopefully if someone has one, they'll post.