Video Rendered With Multiple Repeat/overlaps Of Video

[leojim77]

When the DVD plays, there are routine points (average approx 20 secs) that the video skips back and repeats. I played the disc in three players...it's not the player.

EXAMPLE: Person dribbling basketball and all of a sudden they are 10 ft back or they take a shot and reshoot before rebounding!!!!

I thought maybe it was my rendering choice..."software" so I changed it to "hardware". The only difference was 1.5 hrs for hardware vs. 4 hrs for software. (I initally chose software since after using the "test" for hardware it automaticly re-chose software.

The DVD is built from mpeg files from my Sony DVD cam. This problem makes the DVD quite irritating to watch.

 

If anyone has any ideas, it would be greatly apprectiated.

 

Thanks

[Patty]

Ok, I will root for the Seahawks, then.

 

Thanks Bruce I appreciate it, since you are on the fence we need all the support we can get.......

[leojim77]

Just so you know, I'm having a similar problem. I have a similar video camera (sony 403) to the one you have and when I build a project, it looks fine when I preview it. But when I go through the burn process, you can see that the video occassionally repeats a segment that it just played (which throws the audio out of synch with the video). Like you, I don't edit the video in my production other than to put in menu titles and chapter points. I"ve tried everything and I can't figure out the problem as well. I wonder if the problem is just inherent with these mpeg 2 type files?

Let me know if you come up with any solutions. I'll do the same.

I've tried various methods of getting the data of the disk....unfinalized & finalized using the Sony "Picture Package" and extracting the files using Roxio Import from the finalized disk. The mpeg option was the same. The WMV import actually works but unfortunately reduces the video quality yet produces the same size DVD project. The DIVX AVI import also showed degraded quality but I didn't burn a DVD.

I am now in the process of working on a disk recorded using the VR mode instead of VIDEO mode (note using -RW disks)

The next step is using +RW disks (providing this doesn't work)

The final step if need be....ULEAD has a 30 day trial for their software. If we get enough people trying different things, something is bound to work!

[jstroup77@charter.net]

Good luck to you. I am well beyond the time that I should have done a Format C:. I will do it within the next month.

Well, I finally got to where I was ready to redo my DVD project. Fresh install of windows...latest drivers....and the same doggone problem...skipping back at the same frames! I really don't know what to do now. Unfortunatley, ROXIO PROVIDES NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT!!! I emailed them two times, three months ago with no response. I've tried the Chat BS five times. I allways have one or two in front of me and after 1-2 minutes, I get bounced to "try email". If I am persistant, after a bit tech support goes "offline".

This community thing and people like you are all they have going. Got any suggestions other than possilby Ulead software?

[grandpabruce]

Well, I finally got to where I was ready to redo my DVD project. Fresh install of windows...latest drivers....and the same doggone problem...skipping back at the same frames! I really don't know what to do now. Unfortunatley, ROXIO PROVIDES NO TECHNICAL SUPPORT!!! I emailed them two times, three months ago with no response. I've tried the Chat BS five times. I allways have one or two in front of me and after 1-2 minutes, I get bounced to "try email". If I am persistant, after a bit tech support goes "offline".

This community thing and people like you are all they have going. Got any suggestions other than possilby Ulead software?

 

Dang. I don't know what to tell you. You changed your username. LOL! I was ready to tell you to not hijack this thread.

[ggrussell]

The DVD is built from mpeg files from my Sony DVD cam.

 

That's from the original post. Are you doing any editing? If you have a DVD RW disc, try creating a simple DVD menu, add the files WITHOUT editing and burn. MyDVD should NOT re-encode the files. Play those back and see if they skip/jump. It could be something in the files.

[leojim77]

Most, but not all Memorex is lousy media due to no quality control in manufacturing the media. There are numerous manufacturers of Memorex media, but most of their media is made by CMC Magnetics, which is the poorest manufacturer out there. Some media that is labeled Memorex is good, but it is really hit or miss in getting the right manufacturer.

 

Try Verbatim or Ridata (Ritek). Maybe even Fuji. Once you find one that works well with your burner, use that brand/type until you have problems again.

 

Also, keep the firmware for your burner up to date.

 

Well, the different RW's didn't help. Even though they aren't top notch, one thing makes me think that it isn't the media. In every case the problem showed up at exactly the same frame and went back in time to what appeared to be the same place. I find it hard to believe that problems with the media would show up in exactly the same way.

Since I didn't have this problem before I loaded the "patch" (although on simpler DVD's and copies) I am going to uninstall and reinstall the original only. I will also contact support throught the Chat method....I tried email 3 times with NO RESPONSE. Support from Roxio is a joke to be polite!

 

Thanks,

 

PS: my firmware is the latest available

[grandpabruce]

Well, the different RW's didn't help. Even though they aren't top notch, one thing makes me think that it isn't the media. In every case the problem showed up at exactly the same frame and went back in time to what appeared to be the same place. I find it hard to believe that problems with the media would show up in exactly the same way.

Since I didn't have this problem before I loaded the "patch" (although on simpler DVD's and copies) I am going to uninstall and reinstall the original only. I will also contact support throught the Chat method....I tried email 3 times with NO RESPONSE. Support from Roxio is a joke to be polite!

 

Thanks,

 

PS: my firmware is the latest available

 

Wow, I can't believe changing media did not work. Let us know how you make out on the reinstall of the software.

[james_hardin]

When the DVD plays, there are routine points (average approx 20 secs) that the video skips back and repeats. I played the disc in three players...it's not the player.

EXAMPLE: Person dribbling basketball and all of a sudden they are 10 ft back or they take a shot and reshoot before rebounding!!!!

I thought maybe it was my rendering choice..."software" so I changed it to "hardware". The only difference was 1.5 hrs for hardware vs. 4 hrs for software. (I initally chose software since after using the "test" for hardware it automaticly re-chose software.

The DVD is built from mpeg files from my Sony DVD cam. This problem makes the DVD quite irritating to watch.

 

If anyone has any ideas, it would be greatly apprectiated.

 

Thanks

 

First guess would be the media itself. If it plays OK in your PC then the burn is fine but it is still possible that, that particular disc is not working in your Players.

 

Some Players are sensitive to 'plus' or 'dash' type media and some seem to even have brand preferences!

 

To save a little money on discs, it is good to have a disc or 2 of RW to experiment with.

[leojim77]

First guess would be the media itself. If it plays OK in your PC then the burn is fine but it is still possible that, that particular disc is not working in your Players.

 

Some Players are sensitive to 'plus' or 'dash' type media and some seem to even have brand preferences!

 

To save a little money on discs, it is good to have a disc or 2 of RW to experiment with.

 

 

That was one of my 1st thoughts, but, the disk doesn't play OK in my PC either. I have used this same disc in other projects and it has worked just fine to play both copied DVD's and other non-DVD videos on the non-PC DVD player.

Disk: Memorex DVD +RW

 

PS: You are right....using a RW is the only way to go. I only use R's to copy my good RW's to. Another thing I've done is to create a few very small files to experiment with. Save's alot of wait time!

[grandpabruce]

That was one of my 1st thoughts, but, the disk doesn't play OK in my PC either. I have used this same disc in other projects and it has worked just fine to play both copied DVD's and other non-DVD videos on the non-PC DVD player.

Disk: Memorex DVD +RW

 

PS: You are right....using a RW is the only way to go. I only use R's to copy my good RW's to. Another thing I've done is to create a few very small files to experiment with. Save's alot of wait time!

 

Most definitely try a different brand of media.

[leojim77]

Most definitely try a different brand of media.

 

With an emphatic repley like that it sounds like you've had some problems with Memorex!!! Do you have any recommendations for RW media?

[leojim77]

Wow, I can't believe changing media did not work. Let us know how you make out on the reinstall of the software.

Well, I'm in the middle of trying to fix things. About 5 months ago my WinXP got rather slow...nearly 5 minutes to boot. I did a repair from a CD boot at that time and things got better.

 

After uninstalling MC8, things started to get slow again. I wondered if maybe I had a virus so I installed a security suite from my service provider (had dusted McAfee earlier) and boom....BSOD on startup!

Started in safe mode, and nixed the security suite, did a WinXP repair (boot from the CD) and now things are working OK again.

 

Bottom line.....I have over 120 programs loaded on this machine which is way to many. Thus, I got a new HD last night and am going to start from scratch. This time I'm going to load WinXP on two different drives. One for business / MC8 with only basic needs. The other for all the extaneous "stuff" I get into. I can then just pick which drive to boot from at startup and with luck I should always have one system operating!

This might take a while so I'll likely no post back until the end of the week.

 

Thanks,

LJ

[leojim77]

That's from the original post. Are you doing any editing? If you have a DVD RW disc, try creating a simple DVD menu, add the files WITHOUT editing and burn. MyDVD should NOT re-encode the files. Play those back and see if they skip/jump. It could be something in the files.

Well, I replied to my reply yesterday.....it's not here! I guess one can't do that!!!!!!

EDIT: YEH, since I couldn't find this message....page 2 I think I'm getting old (no offense intended! )

IGNORE this REPEAT!!--->>> Anyhow, the small project (189 Mb total) did not work either. Not as bad, but still unacceptable. I sent an email to Roxio (they had finally answered other questions) but not sure if they will answer in an acceptable time. Apparently they don't send a notice that they have replied....one has to keep on looking for an answer. OR, my SPAM filter got the notice!

I'm wondering if I should pre-re-encode the files. Doesn't make sense since they play fine on the mini disk that is finalized with simple menu's in a couple of minutes (no time for re-encoding).

[leojim77]

That's from the original post. Are you doing any editing? If you have a DVD RW disc, try creating a simple DVD menu, add the files WITHOUT editing and burn. MyDVD should NOT re-encode the files. Play those back and see if they skip/jump. It could be something in the files.

Yeh, DOH...logged in with my registration login....don't really like my email hanging out. Already enough spam.

I'm not editing the VIDEO FILES. The only editing I'm doing is renaming the Titles and Menu names. The files are from a Sony DVD-103 video cam.

I'm using MyDVD, adding approx 35-40 files at one time, and using the create chapters "at start of every panel" I do this twice. (two titles with 35-40 chapters).

Then I edit the titles on the main menu and then change the sub menu titles from "my menu" to 1,2,3, etc.

That's it! Save and burn.

Right now I'm going to do a quicky test (I've got 3 short vids of the same source). I'll let you know if that works.

 

Thanks,

 

LJ

[grandpabruce]

Well, I'm in the middle of trying to fix things. About 5 months ago my WinXP got rather slow...nearly 5 minutes to boot. I did a repair from a CD boot at that time and things got better.

 

After uninstalling MC8, things started to get slow again. I wondered if maybe I had a virus so I installed a security suite from my service provider (had dusted McAfee earlier) and boom....BSOD on startup!

Started in safe mode, and nixed the security suite, did a WinXP repair (boot from the CD) and now things are working OK again.

 

Bottom line.....I have over 120 programs loaded on this machine which is way to many. Thus, I got a new HD last night and am going to start from scratch. This time I'm going to load WinXP on two different drives. One for business / MC8 with only basic needs. The other for all the extaneous "stuff" I get into. I can then just pick which drive to boot from at startup and with luck I should always have one system operating!

This might take a while so I'll likely no post back until the end of the week.

 

Thanks,

LJ

 

Good luck to you. I am well beyond the time that I should have done a Format C:. I will do it within the next month.

[grandpabruce]

With an emphatic repley like that it sounds like you've had some problems with Memorex!!! Do you have any recommendations for RW media?

 

Most, but not all Memorex is lousy media due to no quality control in manufacturing the media. There are numerous manufacturers of Memorex media, but most of their media is made by CMC Magnetics, which is the poorest manufacturer out there. Some media that is labeled Memorex is good, but it is really hit or miss in getting the right manufacturer.

 

Try Verbatim or Ridata (Ritek). Maybe even Fuji. Once you find one that works well with your burner, use that brand/type until you have problems again.

 

Also, keep the firmware for your burner up to date.

[leojim77]

Yeh, DOH...logged in with my registration login....don't really like my email hanging out. Already enough spam.

I'm not editing the VIDEO FILES. The only editing I'm doing is renaming the Titles and Menu names. The files are from a Sony DVD-103 video cam.

I'm using MyDVD, adding approx 35-40 files at one time, and using the create chapters "at start of every panel" I do this twice. (two titles with 35-40 chapters).

Then I edit the titles on the main menu and then change the sub menu titles from "my menu" to 1,2,3, etc.

That's it! Save and burn.

Right now I'm going to do a quicky test (I've got 3 short vids of the same source). I'll let you know if that works.

 

Thanks,

 

LJ

OK, now it's getting bad....replying to my own posts

I did the small project....189 MB total. Althought it wasn't as pronounced, there was the skip back.

Also, when I start the "burn" I get the message "rendering vid" (I think that was the message) with the progress bar.

What I'm wondering....would it be wise to pre-process the video files to a more compatible form? If this is the case....what part of media creator would I use?

 

Also, it sure seems odd that I can "finalize" my mini dvd disk in the camcorder to make a dvd with chapters (6 chapters/menu) in about 1.5-2 minutes, yet it take almost 20 minutes with MyDVD? Just seems odd.

[ed_chin]

Well, I replied to my reply yesterday.....it's not here! I guess one can't do that!!!!!!

EDIT: YEH, since I couldn't find this message....page 2 I think I'm getting old (no offense intended! )

IGNORE this REPEAT!!--->>> Anyhow, the small project (189 Mb total) did not work either. Not as bad, but still unacceptable. I sent an email to Roxio (they had finally answered other questions) but not sure if they will answer in an acceptable time. Apparently they don't send a notice that they have replied....one has to keep on looking for an answer. OR, my SPAM filter got the notice!

I'm wondering if I should pre-re-encode the files. Doesn't make sense since they play fine on the mini disk that is finalized with simple menu's in a couple of minutes (no time for re-encoding).

 

Just so you know, I'm having a similar problem. I have a similar video camera (sony 403) to the one you have and when I build a project, it looks fine when I preview it. But when I go through the burn process, you can see that the video occassionally repeats a segment that it just played (which throws the audio out of synch with the video). Like you, I don't edit the video in my production other than to put in menu titles and chapter points. I"ve tried everything and I can't figure out the problem as well. I wonder if the problem is just inherent with these mpeg 2 type files?

[leojim77]

Most, but not all Memorex is lousy media due to no quality control in manufacturing the media. There are numerous manufacturers of Memorex media, but most of their media is made by CMC Magnetics, which is the poorest manufacturer out there. Some media that is labeled Memorex is good, but it is really hit or miss in getting the right manufacturer.

 

Try Verbatim or Ridata (Ritek). Maybe even Fuji. Once you find one that works well with your burner, use that brand/type until you have problems again.

 

Also, keep the firmware for your burner up to date.

 

Thanks for the info. I will get some one of the RW's you suggested tommorrow....or maybe Monday since tommorow is the Superbowl !!!!!!

Will post back with the results once known.

[grandpabruce]

Thanks for the info. I will get some one of the RW's you suggested tommorrow....or maybe Monday since tommorow is the Superbowl !!!!!!

Will post back with the results once known.

 

You are welcome. Who are you rooting for in the Superbowl? I still haven't decided but leaning towards Pittsburgh.

[leojim77]

You are welcome. Who are you rooting for in the Superbowl? I still haven't decided but leaning towards Pittsburgh.

Well, I'm from Eastern Washington....so 100% Seattle. But, if anybody has to win other than Seattle, I glad it's P-burgh since I'm a transplant.

 

I only had time to go to Wallyworld so I ended up with the only non-Taiwan disk they had.....Imation from India - Moser Baer..... .....yeh, I heard that...Good Luck. I've done some research and it looks like they are maybe slightly better than my Memorex's....at least it it was inexpensive. If it doesn't work, I'll take my list tommorrow and look for a better choice!

[Patty]

You are welcome. Who are you rooting for in the Superbowl? I still haven't decided but leaning towards Pittsburgh.

 

 

GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grandpabruce]

GO SEAHAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Ok, I will root for the Seahawks, then.