OK, not DirectCD...YIKES...now what do i use ?

[ohnonotnow.]

Ok, i got here through a google search

because i wanted to know what box to check after using directcd to create cd-r’s.

NOW, after reading the FAQ and dozens of threads and scores of posts -- i got it, YIKES, --i shouldn’t be using directcd at all for this purpose; that i’m at great risk of losing all my data AND boy am i glad i decided to uninstall ie7.

 

So, WHAT part of ecdc5 SHOULD i use for 1.) archiving and 2.) saving backup copies of downloaded programs ?

 

I saw one post that mentioned data cd project. Is this right? And how exactly is it different from directcd that makes it a better choice. And finally, any tips on using it?

… OR, do you recommend something entirely different?

 

The data i want to save includes….photos, word and excel documents, programs, pdf, saved web pages, zip and rar files. To CD-R disks. And i will be reburning a stack of CD-R's backup archives that were burnt using directcd with the ‘leave as is’ option.

 

Thanks for any or all help . . .and thanks for this forum...i had no idea i was on borrowed time!

 

information: Easy CD Creator 5.3.4.68.(works fine even with -->) windows xp pro sp2. Ie6 (uninstalled ie7 for reasons not ecdc5 related). dell latitude 620 laptop.

[ogdens]

Ok, i got here through a google search

because i wanted to know what box to check after using directcd to create cd-r's.

NOW, after reading the FAQ and dozens of threads and scores of posts -- i got it, YIKES, --i shouldn't be using directcd at all for this purpose; that i'm at great risk of losing all my data AND boy am i glad i decided to uninstall ie7.

 

So, WHAT part of ecdc5 SHOULD i use for 1.) archiving and 2.) saving backup copies of downloaded programs ?

 

I saw one post that mentioned data cd project. Is this right? And how exactly is it different from directcd that makes it a better choice. And finally, any tips on using it?

… OR, do you recommend something entirely different?

 

The data i want to save includes….photos, word and excel documents, programs, pdf, saved web pages, zip and rar files. To CD-R disks. And i will be reburning a stack of CD-R's backup archives that were burnt using directcd with the 'leave as is' option.

 

Thanks for any or all help . . .and thanks for this forum...i had no idea i was on borrowed time!

 

information: Easy CD Creator 5.3.4.68.(works fine even with -->) windows xp pro sp2. Ie6 (uninstalled ie7 for reasons not ecdc5 related). dell latitude 620 laptop.

 

 

 

Read this http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...mp;hl=direct+cd

 

Also here http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?...mp;hl=&st=0

[lynn98109]

Using the Data Project will work fine. Remember to close the disc when you've finished it - and if there is any space left, hey, CD-R blanks are only about 15 cents each by spindle, is your data worth that much or is it worth more?

 

Or, any of the methods suggested in the thread Ogdens referred to

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=15224

 

For future reference: if you want to KEEP the files, NEVER format the disc - and NEVER used CD-RW.

 

The drag&drop style burning built into WinXP is actually the much safer Sessions, not Packet-Writing - as my software guru observed, Microsoft didn't want the hassle that come with Packet-Writing.

 

(And let us know how it goes )

 

Lynn

[ohnonotnow.]

Using the Data Project will work fine. Remember to close the disc when you've finished it - and if there is any space left, hey, CD-R blanks are only about 15 cents each by spindle, is your data worth that much or is it worth more?

 

Or, any of the methods suggested in the thread Ogdens referred to

http://forums.support.roxio.com/index.php?showtopic=15224

 

For future reference: if you want to KEEP the files, NEVER format the disc - and NEVER used CD-RW.

 

The drag&drop style burning built into WinXP is actually the much safer Sessions, not Packet-Writing - as my software guru observed, Microsoft didn't want the hassle that come with Packet-Writing.

 

(And let us know how it goes )

 

Lynn

 

ok, thanks for the handholding.

 

i've been reading up even more, but now the time is here -- ready or not -- because i got the dreaded message when using one of my cddirect cd-r discs that i should backup immediately because a file was unreadable, or some such.

 

so here's the immediate question: i couldn't seem to use either easyccreator5 datacdproject, or the builtin xp feature to copy directly from the old cd to make a new sessions-created cd-r.

 

must i go through the extra steps to copy the files that are on the 'old' cddirect-created cd-r to the desktop and then to drag them to the xp 'ready-to-copy' folder or now use datacd project from there ?

 

i'm used to making a mixed music cd-r using musiccd project and i was hoping i could do the same type of thing with a *bunch* of my directcd-created cd's when i go to reburn them using datacd project. is there a way to to this, or maybe i'm not waiting long enough for it to indicate that it is working? if i have to go through this several step process it's going to add alot to the time to redo all these directcd-created cd's (and if that's the only or the best way. . .so be it).

 

and finally on this aspect -- do you all have a preference between the two for accomplishing this type of reburning of cd's: cd creator5 datacd project or the builtin xp sessions-based feature ?

 

thanks for any and all help.

 

 

//bc

[lynn98109]

I'd suggest making a holding folder in MyDocs.

 

You can use either DataProject or WinXP to do the burning. Just don't wait.

 

If you can't read the data - try cdroller or ISOBuster - more info (as you've noticed) in the FREQUENT ANSWERS post pinned to the top of the Forum.

 

Lynn

[ohnonotnow.]

I'd suggest making a holding folder in MyDocs.

 

You can use either DataProject or WinXP to do the burning. Just don't wait.

 

If you can't read the data - try cdroller or ISOBuster - more info (as you've noticed) in the FREQUENT ANSWERS post pinned to the top of the Forum.

 

Lynn

 

ah, i was just typing a response rephrasing my original question when i finally saw the first line in your response. thank you. i'll do that.

 

and, i quess you don't have a preference between doing this job with DataProject or WinXP, is that right?

 

yes, i've read the FAQ a couple of times. for this one cd, despite the warning i got, all files are readable so far. i'll be sure to check those programs if i run into a readability problem with the small stack of cds i need to reburn.

 

thanks, again. and happy daylight savings time.

 

onnn!

 

 

information: Easy CD Creator 5.3.4.68.(works fine even with -->) windows xp pro sp2. Ie6 (uninstalled ie7 for reasons not ecdc5 related). dell latitude 620 laptop.

[lynn98109]

Use either. The important point is to do it SOONER rather than later. You're lucky to get the warning. And each time you check the disc you get closer to the point it says please put a CD in the drive.

 

I've been there.

 

Lynn

[ohnonotnow.]

Use either. The important point is to do it SOONER rather than later. You're lucky to get the warning. And each time you check the disc you get closer to the point it says please put a CD in the drive.

 

I've been there.

 

Lynn

 

ok, i've *started* the process and have some questions.

 

1. when i copy the contents from the directcd-created cd to a temp folder in MyDocuments, it takes like forever, like 45 minutes to just copy the data to the hard drive, and these are not even full cdr's. is this normal, it just seems way long. is there a different (shorter) way to accomplish the same thing?

 

2. easycdcreator datacd project hangs during the initial record process at the 99% mark. it freezes the whole laptop and the only way out is to disconnect battery and power and restart. i tried this twice, once with Track at Once and then with Disc at Once, with the same result. any ideas what is happening? ( i don't have this problem burning music cd's with this program, btw)

 

3. i then tried the WinXP cd burn builtin app, and that worked ok. the only thing is, i've looked hi and lo for an option to finalize the disc and do not find one. so far, my search at ms support hasn't helped...yet. is there such an animal; i keep reading here to do that. (i know there is that option in easy cdcreator (but i can't currently burn using that).

 

4. a way so i don't have to reburn all these directcd-created data cdr's ? when i eject one of these directcd data cd's, which were not finalized, before it ejects, i get a directCD dialog box with three options:

* Leave As Is --....

* Close to UDF v.1.5 --....

* Close to Read on Any Computer - Cloose the CD so it can be read automatically in most standard CD-ROM drives.

 

hey, what if i did that last one? would that solve my problem of having DirectCD data cdr's that are going to self-distruct without having to reburn them all? it sounds too good to be true, is it?

 

thanks again for your help.

 

 

onnn!

[lynn98109]

WinXP burning uses Sessions. That means, they use a method of burning which doesn't need to be "finalilzed".

 

Yes, if you have a lot if tiny little files, it takes a while to burn because of all the setup - just like if you had to make a lot of physical file-folders instead of taking one large file and moving it.

 

Did you defrag/reboot between the two burning attempts with ECDC 5? If not, the second time was in effect using the leftover data from the first time. However, if WinXP is doing the job, use WinXP.

 

If you "close" the files, you still have Packet-Writing, which can at best be very fussy (demanding the same Operating System and program Version that wrote it), and can still fail for any reason or none at all. You've made a mistake, and been making it for a long time, and it's going to take a while to correct it.

 

Lynn

[ohnonotnow.]

WinXP burning uses Sessions. That means, they use a method of burning which doesn't need to be "finalilzed".

....

 

...[referring to directCD]...If you "close" the files, you still have Packet-Writing, which can at best be very fussy (demanding the same Operating System and program Version that wrote it), and can still fail for any reason or none at all. You've made a mistake, and been making it for a long time, and it's going to take a while to correct it.

 

Lynn

 

ok, so i'm getting confused with the 'finalize' and the 'close', i guess. what's the difference. up above you wrote: """ Using the Data Project will work fine. Remember to close the disc when you've finished it - ...."""

 

so this 'close' is different from the 'close' that is the 3rd choice given by directCD when ejecting the cd disc ?

 

as i understand, both the dataCDproject and the WinXP builtin cd writer are both 'sessions'. dataCDproject you 'close'; i don't get an option when i use the WinXP burner. does it automatically 'close', or what?

 

to clarify. . . from the dialog window presented by directCD when ejecting, i got from the words that this 3rd choice was different from directCD in that it would be able to be read without needing directCD installed.

 

but what you are saying is something like 'maybe so, but it was still written as packets, which has problems, and those problems will carry over regardless...' right?

 

 

thanks again.

onnn!

[Guest ml]

If you're writing with Easy CD Creator 5.3.4.68 and making a DATA CD, you should not have to do anything other than write the CD using the defaults.

 

If you want to use WinXP, there are instructions on how to do this in Start\ Help and Support and type 'write to cd'. There are several short topics on how to write, add to, tips, etc. which will guide you through the process.

[d_deweywright]

ok, i've *started* the process and have some questions.

 

1. when i copy the contents from the directcd-created cd to a temp folder in MyDocuments, it takes like forever, like 45 minutes to just copy the data to the hard drive, and these are not even full cdr's. is this normal, it just seems way long. is there a different (shorter) way to accomplish the same thing?

 

2. easycdcreator datacd project hangs during the initial record process at the 99% mark. it freezes the whole laptop and the only way out is to disconnect battery and power and restart. i tried this twice, once with Track at Once and then with Disc at Once, with the same result. any ideas what is happening? ( i don't have this problem burning music cd's with this program, btw)

 

3. i then tried the WinXP cd burn builtin app, and that worked ok. the only thing is, i've looked hi and lo for an option to finalize the disc and do not find one. so far, my search at ms support hasn't helped...yet. is there such an animal; i keep reading here to do that. (i know there is that option in easy cdcreator (but i can't currently burn using that).

 

4. a way so i don't have to reburn all these directcd-created data cdr's ? when i eject one of these directcd data cd's, which were not finalized, before it ejects, i get a directCD dialog box with three options:

* Leave As Is --....

* Close to UDF v.1.5 --....

* Close to Read on Any Computer - Cloose the CD so it can be read automatically in most standard CD-ROM drives.

 

hey, what if i did that last one? would that solve my problem of having DirectCD data cdr's that are going to self-distruct without having to reburn them all? it sounds too good to be true, is it?

 

thanks again for your help.

onnn!

 

Late to the party, and hope you've gotten everything off already.

 

1.) No, that's not "normal" it means that the drive is having trouble reading the disc, and has to retry several times, probably for each file, to get what it feels is a "good" reading of the data. If it's working (or has worked) that's fine... you're only going to do this once anyway.

 

2.) Don't know. How many and what size files?

 

3.) Don't worry about not finding an option to finalize/close the disc/session, XP will automatically close the session when it's done. If the disc doesn't get closed, that's okay unless you try to write one more session and there's not enough room, but the only data that should get lost would be the last session, and you should know there's a problem with the burn before you discarded any files anyway.

 

4.) If you're using CD-R discs and not CD-RW discs, then using the last option to make them readable on any computer should be good enough as CD-R media is quite reliable, but I would recommend doing that, (making it readable on any computer) and then stop using Direct CD with that disc.