krs Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Hello, On one of my pc's I have a Lite-on cd/rw drive. I have no type of cd burning software installed, but I can still click and drag files to cd-r discs, create folders, access the cd like a drive, etc. It works almost like DLA. When I drag a file to the cd drive a window comes up called CD Writing Wizard, which then burns the file to the cd-r. At the bottom of the window, it notes that this software was created under license from Roxio. I have 2 other pc's with different type burners/drives and they do not have this function. As stated earlier I do not have DLA or any other burning software installed. So, how does the pc act as though something like DLA is installed? A feature of the Lite-on drive? Something to do with Windows that I can turn on? I am using XP Pro. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Hello, On one of my pc's I have a Lite-on cd/rw drive. I have no type of cd burning software installed, but I can still click and drag files to cd-r discs, create folders, access the cd like a drive, etc. It works almost like DLA. When I drag a file to the cd drive a window comes up called CD Writing Wizard, which then burns the file to the cd-r. At the bottom of the window, it notes that this software was created under license from Roxio. I have 2 other pc's with different type burners/drives and they do not have this function. As stated earlier I do not have DLA or any other burning software installed. So, how does the pc act as though something like DLA is installed? A feature of the Lite-on drive? Something to do with Windows that I can turn on? I am using XP Pro. Thanks. Yes that's an XP burning feature. To turn it on or off in XP, right click on the drive then select properties. go to the recording tab and enable CD recording on the drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Yes that's an XP burning feature. To turn it on or off in XP, right click on the drive then select properties. go to the recording tab and enable CD recording on the drive. Hey Larry, Thanks for the reply. I was able to turn the feature on on my second pc. But on my 3rd (the one I just built) there is no recording tab when I look at the properties. Something wrong I assume? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Hey Larry, Thanks for the reply. I was able to turn the feature on on my second pc. But on my 3rd (the one I just built) there is no recording tab when I look at the properties. Something wrong I assume? Sounds like XP doesn't recognize the drive as a burner. Assuming the drive is capable of burning, have you updated XP with the latest updates yet, including SP 2? You could go into Device Manager and delete the drive, then reboot. This would cause XP to reinstall the drive and may correct it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Sounds like XP doesn't recognize the drive as a burner. Assuming the drive is capable of burning, have you updated XP with the latest updates yet, including SP 2? You could go into Device Manager and delete the drive, then reboot. This would cause XP to reinstall the drive and may correct it. Yep, have the lates updates. Deleted the drive and let XP install again. No difference. I called Sony (I have a DRU-120C) and they say it is a windows issue. The cd software does not recognize the drive. I can burn ok with it thru nero. Any other suggestions? Thanks again for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Yep, have the lates updates. Deleted the drive and let XP install again. No difference. I called Sony (I have a DRU-120C) and they say it is a windows issue. The cd software does not recognize the drive. I can burn ok with it thru nero. Any other suggestions? Thanks again for your help. Other than checking with Sony for a firmware update for the drive, the only other thing I can suggest is to check Microsofts KB since yes, it's a windows Operating System issue, not a Roxio problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Other than checking with Sony for a firmware update for the drive, the only other thing I can suggest is to check Microsofts KB since yes, it's a windows Operating System issue, not a Roxio problem. Microsoft KB? Knowledge Base? Would using DLA resolve the problem? Sounds like basically the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Microsoft KB? Would using DLA resolve the problem? Sounds like basically the same thing. That means go to Microsoft.com and search their Knowledgebase (KB) for your problem. NO, DLA would not solve your problem, it would open up a whole different set of problems. DLA (and other brands like InCD, Drag to Disc ) uses a different burning technology called "packet writing" which is not reliable for backup, long term storage, or to keep the only copy of something you want to keep from lossing. To use a software that writes the way XP's built in stuff does, you would use something like Sonic RecordNow or Roxio Creator Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 That means go to Microsoft.com and search their Knowledgebase (KB) for your problem. NO, DLA would not solve your problem, it would open up a whole different set of problems. DLA (and other brands like InCD, Drag to Disc ) uses a different burning technology called "packet writing" which is not reliable for backup, long term storage, or to keep the only copy of something you want to keep from lossing. To use a software that writes the way XP's built in stuff does, you would use something like Sonic RecordNow or Roxio Creator Classic. Larry, It seems that XP Desktop CD burner only recognizes CD burners. not DVD. I installed Roxio Creator 9 and everything seems to be working ok. Again, thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanrosenfeld Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 XP method will recognise a DVD burner, but only recognises CDs, not DVDs. Generally DVD burners arealso CD burners. Have you checked that the drive iud in DMA mode, not PIO? Assuming the drive is on the second IDE channel, in device manager, right click secondary IDE channel, click properties, advanced settings does it say it is in Ultra DMA mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Glad to see you got it sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 XP method will recognise a DVD burner, but only recognises CDs, not DVDs. Generally DVD burners arealso CD burners. Have you checked that the drive iud in DMA mode, not PIO? Assuming the drive is on the second IDE channel, in device manager, right click secondary IDE channel, click properties, advanced settings does it say it is in Ultra DMA mode? I have 2 primary and 2 secondary IDE channels. For both secondary it shows "not applicable" for current xfer mode. It is the same for the first Primary IDE channel. In the second primary channel it has "ultra DMA mode 5" for device 0 and N/A for Device 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanrosenfeld Posted March 11, 2007 Report Share Posted March 11, 2007 Ultra DMA mode 5 most likely refers to your hard drive. N/A would normally indicate that there is no device on that channel. So having one hard drive on a primary IDE channel is common and OK. However, it is unusual to have two sets of primary and secondary IDE channels. Do they both show as installed (if not installed they show in light grey, if you have selected show hidden devices in view menu, or under properties it tells you not currently connected to the PC). We are talking about an internally mounted DVD drive? If so I would expect it to be connected to a secondary channel. Is the drive shown in device manager under DVD/CD drives? You could also check in device manager, view devices by connection, see what hardware is connected to which IDE channel and what controller your DVD drive is connected to. Can you post detailed PC specs? It may be that your system differs from those I'm familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 Ultra DMA mode 5 most likely refers to your hard drive. N/A would normally indicate that there is no device on that channel. So having one hard drive on a primary IDE channel is common and OK. However, it is unusual to have two sets of primary and secondary IDE channels. Do they both show as installed (if not installed they show in light grey, if you have selected show hidden devices in view menu, or under properties it tells you not currently connected to the PC). We are talking about an internally mounted DVD drive? If so I would expect it to be connected to a secondary channel. Is the drive shown in device manager under DVD/CD drives? You could also check in device manager, view devices by connection, see what hardware is connected to which IDE channel and what controller your DVD drive is connected to. Can you post detailed PC specs? It may be that your system differs from those I'm familiar with. Jean, Thanks for your help Just built the PC. My first attempt at doing so. Below are the specs. Specs: CPU - Intel E4300 MB - Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3, Memory - 2gig Corsair memory Hard drive - 150Gig Western digital Raptor DVD/RW - Sony DRU-120C - Internal drive Windows XP Pro The hard drive is connected via SATA to the MB. Here is a image of my Device Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanrosenfeld Posted March 12, 2007 Report Share Posted March 12, 2007 It looks like you've installed two SATA controllers. Any idea why? The info in device manager for your DVD drive gives a different model number from what you give in your spec?? Device manager calls it a SCSI drive. What shows under the SCSI entry in device manager? Is that controlling the DVD drive? If you look at devices by connection, what controller/channels are the hard drive and the DVD drive connected to? It may look something like this (my chipset is different so the details will differ. In particular, although my hard drive is a SATA, it is connected directly to the motherboard,and controlled by the Ultra ATA controller. I don't havea SCSI controlerr, but expand that section also if the drive isn't under the SATA controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2007 It looks like you've installed two SATA controllers. Any idea why? The info in device manager for your DVD drive gives a different model number from what you give in your spec?? Device manager calls it a SCSI drive. What shows under the SCSI entry in device manager? Is that controlling the DVD drive? If you look at devices by connection, what controller/channels are the hard drive and the DVD drive connected to? It may look something like this (my chipset is different so the details will differ. In particular, although my hard drive is a SATA, it is connected directly to the motherboard,and controlled by the Ultra ATA controller. I don't havea SCSI controlerr, but expand that section also if the drive isn't under the SATA controllers. Yep, it shows as a different type drive, but according to Sony support that is ok. Under SCSI it only shows Gigabyte GBB36X Controller When i look at devices by connection it does not show the dvd drive. Just for kicks I bought another drive (LITE-ON) and got the same results. I disabled the one storage controller just to see if it made a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanrosenfeld Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Well the drive must be there somewhere, else Windows would not show it in View devices by type. I can only suggest you click on al the +es in view by connection until you find it :-) You could also check in BIOS that it is recognised there. Your PC is certainly very different from mine :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krs Posted March 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Well the drive must be there somewhere, else Windows would not show it in View devices by type. I can only suggest you click on al the +es in view by connection until you find it :-) You could also check in BIOS that it is recognised there. Your PC is certainly very different from mine :-) I have talked to several freinds of mine and they say their device manager looks the same. The drive does not show up in th IDE channels. The drive seems to work ok. Yes it shows in the BIOS and in the register. I did learn how to update the register so that the system knows it is a recordable drive. I now have a recording tab where I can turn on desktop cd burning. Only problem is that XP does not see when I put a cd in. Keeps saying to insert a cd. So, turned that off and just use Roxio Drag to disc and so far so good. Not really sure if there is a problem or not. As long as it works...lol Thanks for your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanrosenfeld Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 So long as you're happy :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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