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Separation of chuch and state is an excellent idea IMO. What we need is separation of corporation and state too! That's the point of the cartoon.

My feelings are the term, 'separation of church and state' can mean many things. 1 right shouldn't take away another right.

 

"Americans are being denied the right to express their religious speech in the public square." Ralph Reed, Christian Coalition.

 

"Public schools can neither foster religion nor preclude it. Our public schools must treat religion with fairness and respect and vigorously protect religious expression as well as the freedom of conscience of all other students. In so doing our public schools reaffirm the First Amendment and enrich the lives of their students". Secretary of Education Richard W. Riley June 1998

 

"A Congress that allows God to be banned from our schools while our schools can teach about cults, Hitler and even devil worship is wrong, out of touch, and needs some common sense." Rep. James Traficant, (D-OH) 1999-APR-27.

 

"There is no such source and cause of strife, quarrel, fights, malignant opposition, persecution, and war, and all evil in the state, as religion. Let it once enter our civil affairs, our government would soon be destroyed. Let it once enter our common schools, they would be destroyed." Supreme Court of Wisconsin, Weiss v. District Board, 1890-MAR-18.

 

"A union of government and religion tends to destroy government and degrade religion." Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black, Engel v. Vitale, (1962)

bullet "School sponsorship of a religious message is impermissible because it sends the ancillary message to members of the audience who are nonadherents that they are outsiders, not full members of the political community, and an accompanying message to adherents that they are insiders, favored members of the political community. " U.S. Supreme Court ruling, Santa Fe v. Doe, (2000).

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Since this looks like multiple choice I choose this one:

 

"Public schools can neither foster religion nor preclude it. Our public schools must treat religion with fairness and respect and vigorously protect religious expression as well as the freedom of conscience of all other students. In so doing our public schools reaffirm the First Amendment and enrich the lives of their students". Secretary of Education Richard W. Riley June 1998

 

Thanks Paul

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Since this looks like multiple choice I choose this one:

 

"Public schools can neither foster religion nor preclude it. Our public schools must treat religion with fairness and respect and vigorously protect religious expression as well as the freedom of conscience of all other students. In so doing our public schools reaffirm the First Amendment and enrich the lives of their students". Secretary of Education Richard W. Riley June 1998

 

Thanks Paul

Amen to that! ;)

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Looks like this group has a conservative swing!

I personally don't think politics should play any part in religion but it's on our money and, most politicians are sworn in with at Bible (that's changing too now) but I think I only passed some of my college exams because I said a little prayer before I took the tests. :lol:

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Actually Paul I think it's the other way around.Religion shouldn't play a part in politics.I think that's the way the founding fathers meant for it to be.

I think,especially since Bush,that religious groups have garnered to much influence on our political system.I understand that a man's faith will have some influence on the decisions he makes but I don't think it's right that they should be the only factor.

This "I'm a christian" or whatever to get votes is just plain wrong.I'm more interested in what they think about schools,health care and Social Security than what they think about someones faith.

In reality,isn't religion what has caused a lot wars over history?

 

Sorry for the rant.

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Just think, sisterscape posted this with the title, 'Time for a little humor'. :P

I certainly can see your post and agree and just because someone says they're Christian (or any religion) doesn't make that person a good person. Takes all kinds. I just feel that since taking prayer away from school and other public places, we've had a degradation in morality. And, while it has no place in politics, if a person wants to say a prayer in public, that's a right our forefathers fought for. Yes, a zillion wars have been fought for religion and it was religion that brought the first settlers to our shores. So, whether we like it or disagree with it, religion played a huge role in our history's politics.

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A few years ago, our little community took a neighbor to court (for violating deed restrictions). When it came time to take the " . . .so help you God etc." oath, I remained silent and the judge got the clue immediately and asked if I affirmed that my testimony was the truth. I really appreciated that as god concept is very foreign to me and it would indeed be a lie for me to speak those words.

 

It is really naive and prejudicial to assume that god and 'religion' and morality are joined at the hip.

 

FWIW, I also vote for tbrewst's choice.

 

And an historical nugget . . . there has never been a Buddhist war though Buddhists (who obviously don't understand a thing about Buddhism) serve in the military around the globe.

 

NOW CAN WE GET ON WITH SOME GOOD OLD MICROSOFT BASHING??

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NOW CAN WE GET ON WITH SOME GOOD OLD MICROSOFT BASHING??

 

Am I the only one that got the point of that cartoon? It's PREYING, not PRAYING.

 

They actually bring in fast food to sell at some schools for lunch! Of course, the schools get a hefty 'profit'

 

They sell soft drinks ( only Coke products ) for the money that it brings into the school.

 

All the computers use Microsoft products. They train the kids on Microsoft programs.

 

The cartoon is missing the television that plays 'educational programming' laced with commercial advertising.

 

I've seen the cartoon before and it's still pretty good...... as long as you notice the PREYING.

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I'm with ML. The pun was on 'praying' but the cartoon was about something quite different.

 

While the fuss is being made about prayer in schools, something a lot more insidious is sneaking in under the radar and few are noticing it.

 

Good one, Sisterscape.

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Am I the only one that got the point of that cartoon? It's PREYING, not PRAYING.

 

They actually bring in fast food to sell at some schools for lunch! Of course, the schools get a hefty 'profit'

 

They sell soft drinks ( only Coke products ) for the money that it brings into the school.

 

All the computers use Microsoft products. They train the kids on Microsoft programs.

 

The cartoon is missing the television that plays 'educational programming' laced with commercial advertising.

 

I've seen the cartoon before and it's still pretty good...... as long as you notice the PREYING.

 

Nope, I did. But I happily went with the Guru drift.

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My apologies for the misread and the drift but I did enjoy the discussion. No excuse on my stupidity.

Ever see this before (warning, another guru drift coming):

 

Dear Miss Snark,

 

fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid, too.

Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe tuo fo 100 anc.

 

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

 

I read this out loud and while I greatly notice the mispellings, I was amazed how easy it was for me to read this and my wife struggled trying to read it phonetically and told me I had memorized it.

 

Does this work for an excuse? :P:lol:

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My apologies for the misread and the drift but I did enjoy the discussion. No excuse on my stupidity.

Ever see this before (warning, another guru drift coming):

 

Dear Miss Snark,

 

fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid, too.

Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe tuo fo 100 anc.

 

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

 

I read this out loud and while I greatly notice the mispellings, I was amazed how easy it was for me to read this and my wife struggled trying to read it phonetically and told me I had memorized it.

 

Does this work for an excuse? :P:lol:

That's how people can read Chinese.

 

Lynn

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Does this work for an excuse? :P:lol:

 

Perhaps.

 

I've seen it before and I can read it easily.

 

Actually, all the letters are in each word. They're just jumbled. ( A bit like my mind. :blink: )

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Wow !! I guess so far this is a real "drift". But I must introduce my thoughts as well. My thoughts totally agree with Paul, Bruce, Terry, Brendon and the statement about "where are the parents".

 

Someone so nicely posted "AMEN" to a couple of the replies. and may I also say "AMEN" to those same thoughts.

 

Now pass the Budweiser please and I'll recuse myself from the political table :)

 

Frank...

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