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Should I upgrade to Vista?


pam_mortensen

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I'm afraid to tell you that you've wasted your time and money on Vista Basic and Bill Gates should not have even offered Basic as an option. Switching to Vista 100% now is not a good idea until the bugs are out and fixed but even then, you'd want the Premium version.

And let’s not even go into the limited application supported products and drivers yet in all versions of Vista.

our OEM suppliers are saying to tell our customers not to look at vista for 4 to 6 months or until a service pack has come out that sorts out a large number of the ongoing issues and drivers ect.

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Oh my, after reading all this I don't even want to waste my time sending in the paperwork for my free version! I have yet to read anywhere why I would WANT Vista in the first place.

 

Thank you for this discussion.

 

 

An upgrade to Vista Premium is worth about $190 so you can always get the disk and sell it to someone, if you don't want it.

 

I got the upgrade and really think Vista is an improvement. Would have to say that EMC has done really poorly in terms of prepping for the new OS.

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I am very skeptical of anyone on a resource forum that says everything works fine. They are usually working for the product that isn't working or are trying to sell you something else. I am running Vista Ultimate on my workstation but keep XP on my laptop for when I know I have to get some work done. I would not install Vista on any PC if I didn't have a backup resource. I have found that even Vista Certified hardware and software doesn't work as it should under Vista. There is also too much controversy about DRM (Digital rights) and many companies are finding that they are losing customers by putting too much security on their products. DRM is causing the majority of the problems with software and hardware vendors getting their product to work with Vista. The only feature I have found that I really like in Vista is the Thumbnail views of videos (it takes a thumbnail from a point past the introduction). In XP the thumbnail preview of videos is useless if you have numerous videos with the same title screen. I would wait until a few months after the first service pack release before ever commiting to Vista. As others have said though, I woud get the software but not load it (if it was free or less than $20). I have always been a Microsoft fan (I am a computer technician and consultant and fixing their products/getting them to work pays my bills) but if they don't get Vista fixed and make it the only alternative, buy Apple stock.

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My computer came with a "Free Upgrade to Vista" and I just received an email that I can download it now. I just got my EMC9 working...should I just forget Vista? What are the advantages to upgrading to Vista?

 

Thanks!

Not many advantages as far as I can tell and it's a crap shoot to use it now as your only OS. Plus, what version are you getting? If it's the Basic, completely forget about it.

Drivers are still and issue as well. When the time comes and you want to upgrade, make sure you don't just do an upgrade install but a complete format and install. That will make a difference.

Another suggestion is to run a dual boot so that you can use both XP and Vista when you want. Got a game that won't play in Vista? Boot to XP. DRM is a nagging problem made worse in Vista too!

 

Just curious, most of the 'free upgrades' are sent on a disc. Who did you buy a computer from that is letting you download a copy?

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I've not heard of Vista Standard but do you mean Basic? MS lists the different versions here but I do see mention of this in a google search and am still not sure what it has that's different.

Vista Basic is not worth anything at all and you might as well forget about doing anything but web searching. It should not even be available IMO.

Any new OS is frustrating but when a new OS is not really new or needed, it is even more so.

 

 

Sorry, I meant Basic not Standard. I couldn't remember the name. I really have tried to block the whole Vista thing out of my memory. I was so frustrating.

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Sorry, I meant Basic not Standard. I couldn't remember the name. I really have tried to block the whole Vista thing out of my memory. I was so frustrating.

I'm afraid to tell you that you've wasted your time and money on Vista Basic and Bill Gates should not have even offered Basic as an option. Switching to Vista 100% now is not a good idea until the bugs are out and fixed but even then, you'd want the Premium version.

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Thanks! I think I will pass. We bought the computer from HP. I jsut rechecked my email from HP and it looks like it is a disc...I didn't really read the fine print, I was more interested in whether or not I should. When we bought the computer back in October we were wondering if we should just wait for Vista until they said they would provide it free when it comes out.

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An upgrade to Vista Premium is worth about $190 so you can always get the disk and sell it to someone, if you don't want it.

 

I got the upgrade and really think Vista is an improvement. Would have to say that EMC has done really poorly in terms of prepping for the new OS.

 

I think you mentioned that before, Mitch.

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If you want to seriously get frustrated with your new computer and become a regular on these forum boards, upgrade to Vista. You computing experience will never be the same. :o

 

I bought a new computer from Dell with Vista Standard and it basicly became a glorified internet explorer. I couldn't install any of my Graphic software, print through another computer running Xp, and use my MP3 player. I decided to just bite the bullet and do a clean install of a retail version of XP Home. Now everything works great including EMC 9.

 

Wait at least 1 - 2 years before you consider loading Vista on your computer.

 

Just my 2 cents.

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I upgraded from XP to VISTA via a "clean install" on one of my PCs (laptop) and most everything works just fine. The MS VISTA compatibility tool doesn't tell you if your video card is good enough to run in "Aero" mode. :angry2: My internal Intel video card wasn't good enough and there isn't an upgrade for it to run in "Aero" mode. All-in-all, everything seems to be OK and actually I think it comes to the desktop somewhat faster. Of course I upgraded Norton AV, Roxio and my HP printer software but still I like the results. :)

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I agree wholeheartedly - I've been working with computers since 8 bit days (even worked on 4 bit machines and had to input code via a hex keypad :lol:

 

I'm avoiding Vista - if for no other reason than it's rapidly acquiring a nickname of ME II and is a resource hog that doesn't really do anything that XP can't (and takes longer to do it)

 

Apple - hmm, I'll pass with their closed source hardware and their variant on FreeBSD (make that ExpensiveBSD :lol: )

 

The way forward is back to the Unix roots - power to the penguin ;)

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If you want to seriously get frustrated with your new computer and become a regular on these forum boards, upgrade to Vista. You computing experience will never be the same. :o

 

I bought a new computer from Dell with Vista Standard and it basicly became a glorified internet explorer. I couldn't install any of my Graphic software, print through another computer running Xp, and use my MP3 player. I decided to just bite the bullet and do a clean install of a retail version of XP Home. Now everything works great including EMC 9.

 

Wait at least 1 - 2 years before you consider loading Vista on your computer.

 

Just my 2 cents.

I've not heard of Vista Standard but do you mean Basic? MS lists the different versions here but I do see mention of this in a google search and am still not sure what it has that's different.

Vista Basic is not worth anything at all and you might as well forget about doing anything but web searching. It should not even be available IMO.

Any new OS is frustrating but when a new OS is not really new or needed, it is even more so.

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Oh my, after reading all this I don't even want to waste my time sending in the paperwork for my free version! I have yet to read anywhere why I would WANT Vista in the first place.

 

Thank you for this discussion.

 

You should still get the free software, but no need to install for at least a year. EMC 9 works fine with Windows XP and hopefully it will work well with Vista, once Roxio releases a patch.

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If you need emc9 forget it for the time being. Bits that work are VERY slow (7 hours to encode a 70min video to DVD). It crashes, crashes Vista and is generally a big pain. Most other company's software is working tolerably well if you do a clean install. Hardly anything worked when I used the upgrade option, all the accounts were screwed up and hardly any software worked, even Microsofts.

I'm still waiting on my free version that I won't use on the PC I purchased for work. But, I figure it will take so long to get here that by the time it does, SP1 will be out already. :lol:

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My computer came with a "Free Upgrade to Vista" and I just received an email that I can download it now. I just got my EMC9 working...should I just forget Vista? What are the advantages to upgrading to Vista?

 

Thanks!

 

If you need emc9 forget it for the time being. Bits that work are VERY slow (7 hours to encode a 70min video to DVD). It crashes, crashes Vista and is generally a big pain. Most other company's software is working tolerably well if you do a clean install. Hardly anything worked when I used the upgrade option, all the accounts were screwed up and hardly any software worked, even Microsofts.

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Very strange all the gloom and doom with Vista. Here I am running Vista Ultimate with EMC 8 and burning dvds and editing sound files and all of you telling me it doesn't work. I also have a new laptop with Vista Premium on it and I love it. Yes, there are some problems with drivers but mainly from companies that seem to be taking a rediculous amount of time to upgrade their software. I now have all of my hardware working, it was a case of manipulating the compatibility and the administrator rights. I have dumped XP now and will never go back.

 

James

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Very strange all the gloom and doom with Vista. Here I am running Vista Ultimate with EMC 8 and burning dvds and editing sound files and all of you telling me it doesn't work. I also have a new laptop with Vista Premium on it and I love it. Yes, there are some problems with drivers but mainly from companies that seem to be taking a rediculous amount of time to upgrade their software. I now have all of my hardware working, it was a case of manipulating the compatibility and the administrator rights. I have dumped XP now and will never go back.

 

James

LOL, I'm very happy for you especially that you're getting 8 to work. You are one of the few. I do think, for some odd reason, the Ultimate version has caused less problems.

 

I have dumped XP now and will never go back.

I read the same statement in the Linux forums all the time. :lol:

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Don't waste your time with Vista. XP is perfectly fine and suported by most software vendors. I bought a new Compaq laptop & had to covert it to XP to be compatible with my network. I have also decided this will be the last windows machine I buy. I am converting to MAC's from hereon out, Microsoft has pissed me off this much.

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