cdanteek Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 March 12, 2007 "On the eve of the announcement of a new Europe-wide consumer protection program, whose stated aim is to ensure consumers' ability to return products purchased online for refunds if they're not satisfied - regardless of what country they were purchased from - the lead architect of that program, EU Commissioner Meglena Kuneva, hinted to the German newsweekly Focus that Apple's iTunes service could be directly impacted." "Do you think it's fine that a CD plays in all CD players but that an iTunes song only plays in an iPod? I don't. Something has to change." article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsinger Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 March 12, 2007 "On the eve of the announcement of a new Europe-wide consumer protection program, whose stated aim is to ensure consumers' ability to return products purchased online for refunds if they're not satisfied - regardless of what country they were purchased from - the lead architect of that program, EU Commissioner Meglena Kuneva, hinted to the German newsweekly Focus that Apple's iTunes service could be directly impacted." "Do you think it's fine that a CD plays in all CD players but that an iTunes song only plays in an iPod? I don't. Something has to change." article I guess next they are going to say that all parts that fit a Ford, must now fit a Toyota, Honda, Renault, etc. And visa versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I guess next they are going to say that all parts that fit a Ford, must now fit a Toyota, Honda, Renault, etc. And visa versa. No, it's more like buying a gallon of gas and then finding it will only run a Ford. Even Ford couldn't get away with that, so why should Apple? (and vice versa) Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlinsinger Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 No, it's more like buying a gallon of gas and then finding it will only run a Ford. Even Ford couldn't get away with that, so why should Apple? (and vice versa) Sarge Because the iPod is their product, and iTunes is their product. Not anyone else's. If people don't want to be limited, don't buy the product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Because the iPod is their product, and iTunes is their product. Not anyone else's. If people don't want to be limited, don't buy the product. iTunes is just a delivery method, like the pump at the gas station. The music is the product. If that line of thinking was enforced, all the anti-competition suits against Microsoft would vanish in an instant. They would be able to do anything they liked, and tell you if you don't like it, go bury your head. (They have tried that). Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsvcsinc Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 iTunes is just a delivery method, like the pump at the gas station. The music is the product. If that line of thinking was enforced, all the anti-competition suits against Microsoft would vanish in an instant. They would be able to do anything they liked, and tell you if you don't like it, go bury your head. (They have tried that). Sarge This may be neither here nor there - but, I believe you can 'rip' the itunes music files using even Windows Media Player - this will transform the .cda files to .wma files that can be burned or used in productions. I was able to do this a week or so ago when the latest (at that time) itunes software wouldn't let me burn a song onto a cd, then put it back onto my computer so I could use it as I pleased. I don't know the infringement ramifications of this, and I don't have too much of a use to do it, since I don't purchase too many itunes songs, but I was frustrated, and just a little research online explained what I needed to do. Anyway, I paid for the song, so I kinda felt like I should be able to use it as I saw fit. Sorry if this is common knowledge, or off subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Did you ever read the EULA? You just explained how you broke the law by circumventing the DRM Digital Rights Managment! cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpabruce Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 This may be neither here nor there - but, I believe you can 'rip' the itunes music files using even Windows Media Player - this will transform the .cda files to .wma files that can be burned or used in productions. I was able to do this a week or so ago when the latest (at that time) itunes software wouldn't let me burn a song onto a cd, then put it back onto my computer so I could use it as I pleased. I don't know the infringement ramifications of this, and I don't have too much of a use to do it, since I don't purchase too many itunes songs, but I was frustrated, and just a little research online explained what I needed to do. Anyway, I paid for the song, so I kinda felt like I should be able to use it as I saw fit. Sorry if this is common knowledge, or off subject. You download .cda files from iTunes? I have never dowloaded music, but that doesn't sound right, to me. I thought downloaded music was .mp3 files. That is why I never downloaded any music. I would feel darn good if I was wrong. I would start downloading music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerman Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 You download .cda files from iTunes? I have never dowloaded music, but that doesn't sound right, to me. I thought downloaded music was .mp3 files. That is why I never downloaded any music. I would feel darn good if I was wrong. I would start downloading music. iTune files are not .cda but m4a files. Bruce, I've ripped almost all of my old cd's to mp3 (at least the songs on the cd's that I liked enough) and you'd be surprised how these old ears still like the quality they're hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsvcsinc Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 iTune files are not .cda but m4a files. Bruce, I've ripped almost all of my old cd's to mp3 (at least the songs on the cd's that I liked enough) and you'd be surprised how these old ears still like the quality they're hearing. Bad EULA! Didn't know that, but maybe it's a good thing to know. As far as .mp4 files - once Ithey are burned to a cd with itunes using purchased music, they become .cda files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpabruce Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Bad EULA! Didn't know that, but maybe it's a good thing to know. As far as .mp4 files - once Ithey are burned to a cd with itunes using purchased music, they become .cda files. The .cda points to whatever format the music is in on the CD. You don't see it, but I think it is all converted to .wav files. I am not sure, but I know that it isn't the same fidelity as the old vinyl albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted March 16, 2007 Report Share Posted March 16, 2007 Ok,I use iTunes a lot.What you get is what Paul said,mp4 files.They are delivered at 128k.Not the greatest quality but fine for most people.They're ok for me,I mostly listen to them in my car anyways. What was explained is possible.You take the mp4's,burn them to a cd using iTunes,which results in the usual Audio CD format (cda pointers and wav files) like Bruce said. Technically,I think this is violating the EULA.That's why most of us have quit responding to posts about not being able to use them with this solution.I also agree that if I paid for them I should be able to use them how I like as long as it's not to redistribute them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted March 17, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2007 .I also agree that if I paid for them I should be able to use them how I like as long as it's not to redistribute them. Technically, that's not what you agree to in the EULA? cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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