Not enough free space on the disc (DVD burning)

[annieo]

When I try to burn a DVD from a show I've downloaded from Tivo (1 hour 59 min), I receive the message "There's not enough free space on this disc. 5.20 GB are needed. 4.38 GB are available." I'm new to burning DVDs and got myself an external drive. I'm burning onto 4.7 GB DVDs.

 

I've done the following to try to troubleshoot: changed encoding to Never Encode. Changed settings to Good, instead of better or best. Changed burn speed from best to 16X, to 4X. (I don't really know what I'm doing, so I'm just messing around, trying everything I can see.)

 

In other posts, I see people referring to the possibility of burning across 2 discs - can't find those settings. But, a 2 hour program should fit on this DVD.

 

Can anyone help with what I'm doing wrong?

 

I believe that this is a Toast 8 topic rather than a TivoToGo topic, as I have no difficulty transferring Tivo to my mac.

 

Thanks for any tips.

[tntjr]

It sounds like a problem specifically with the Tivo file, then, so I probably can't help you. Just as a suggestion, though, even in these days where DVDs are finally cheap (thanks to the universe for that one), I think it's always a good idea to make a disk image first and then test it before burning.

 

The other common sense regular suggestions you're already aware of, like recording at a slower speed. Your media should be all right, though there are those who swear always by Taiyo Yuden (Sp?) as infallible. I must admit I use TDK myself, mainly because they're inkjet printable and Costco offers huge amounts of them for practically nothing. You might want to take a look at LaCie's site to check out whether there's new firmware. I have a LaCie drive myself, and they have recently posted an update.

 

As an additional suggestion to check the original file out, you might try dropping it on the DVD-Video from the Media Browser and then choose to export it to either Quicktime MOV or DV, either of which are reasonable sources for a DVD >You will always lose some quality when you transcode like that, but if you check the export settings carefully, you should be able to keep that to a minimum.

 

Best of luck!

 

 

I have a ReplayTV but think it uses same file format as Tivo. I open the file with MpegStreamclip http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24055

 

and do a "save as" mpeg. That file seems to work fine in Toast. I also edit out commercials w/ quicktime pro.

[tsantee]

I have a ReplayTV but think it uses same file format as Tivo. I open the file with MpegStreamclip http://versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24055

 

and do a "save as" mpeg. That file seems to work fine in Toast. I also edit out commercials w/ quicktime pro.

I'm curious why you don't edit out the commercials in MPEG Streamclip before saving as an MPEG.

[tsantee]

5.2 GB needed for a 2-hour TiVo video? Very odd.

 

Have you updated to Toast 8.0.1?

 

A 4.7 GB disc actually has just under a 4.4 GB capacity. There's a marketing math versus computer math explanation for this.

 

Try this workaround: Choose Save as Disc Image from the File menu instead of clicking the burn button. When it is finished, choose that disc image using the Image File setting in the Toast Copy window. If the content really is too big for a single-layer disc, Toast can use its Fit-to-DVD feature to do additional compression and burn your DVD. But this shouldn't be necessary for a 2-hour TiVo file.

 

By the way, when you chose Never Encode then none of the other encoder settings matter.

[annieo]

I just updated to Toast 8.0.1 this morning. But I transferred the program from my tivo using 8.0 - perhaps 8.0.1 will create a smaller file? If your workaround doesn't work, I'll try transferring it from Tivo to Mac again.

 

I'll report back on whether or not the workaround fixes the problem.

 

Thanks for your help on this.

[annieo]

Everything works fine until it actually writes to the DVD. I've gotten 2 disc error messages - can't see them anymore. Then I transferred the program again, still 5.0 GB on the Tivo and on my mac. Converted it to .toast file, went to copy, everything was fine until it was verifying the DVD. Got an sector error message 77% through. If I put the DVD in to play, it shows the initial screen, with the show title, length, etc., but no chapters, no minutes.

 

Aauuurgh. And each process takes 1/2 hour to hours, so each test is very long and drawn out. Not the experience I expected when I bought the Roxio Toast 8.

 

I suppose I can test the DVD and copy a non-encrypted DVD to be sure that it's not the DVD burner instead of Toast 8.

 

Anyone have any ideas?

 

~anne

 

 

Everything works fine until it actually writes to the DVD. I've gotten 2 disc error messages - can't see them anymore. Then I transferred the program again, still 5.0 GB on the Tivo and on my mac. Converted it to .toast file, went to copy, everything was fine until it was verifying the DVD. Got an sector error message 77% through. If I put the DVD in to play, it shows the initial screen, with the show title, length, etc., but no chapters, no minutes.

 

Aauuurgh. And each process takes 1/2 hour to hours, so each test is very long and drawn out. Not the experience I expected when I bought the Roxio Toast 8.

 

I suppose I can test the DVD and copy a non-encrypted DVD to be sure that it's not the DVD burner instead of Toast 8.

 

Anyone have any ideas?

 

~anne

[mike457]

I don't have Tivo myself, so I won't comment on that aspect of it. It would be interesting to know what the error messages said, which brand of blank DVDs you're using, and what DVD burner you're using. It does sound as if the file is too big. On the "Make a DVD from VIDEO_TS" screen, there is an option for Fit-to-DVD video compression. Is there a similar option for the Tivo? Have you tried a DL (dual-layer) disk? Did you try Tsantee's suggestion of creating a disk image? You could then mount the disk image on your Mac and make sure that it plays correctly before you try burning the DVD.

[annieo]

Important things I'm learning here! First, I did create a disk image, but didn't even think to see whether or not it worked on my mac, and it does not, so there is something that has to happen to the tivo file to translate it to a format that can be understood, I guess, although if I load the .tivo file, it plays nicely, but on the Tivo Video Player, not on the DVD Player.

 

I did ask it to fit to dvd video compression, but that's moot now that we know that the .toast file doesn't play.

 

Funnily enough, I did get another 2 hour video to burn a couple of weeks ago, but can't replicate it, AND it takes forever.

 

The discs that I'm using are Sony DVD-R 120 min/4.7 GB AccuCORE. The DVD burner is a LaCie, and I copied a home DVD without any problem at all.

 

Any other ideas? I'm burning through blank DVDs. (get it? )

 

I don't have Tivo myself, so I won't comment on that aspect of it. It would be interesting to know what the error messages said, which brand of blank DVDs you're using, and what DVD burner you're using. It does sound as if the file is too big. On the "Make a DVD from VIDEO_TS" screen, there is an option for Fit-to-DVD video compression. Is there a similar option for the Tivo? Have you tried a DL (dual-layer) disk? Did you try Tsantee's suggestion of creating a disk image? You could then mount the disk image on your Mac and make sure that it plays correctly before you try burning the DVD.

[mike457]

It sounds like a problem specifically with the Tivo file, then, so I probably can't help you. Just as a suggestion, though, even in these days where DVDs are finally cheap (thanks to the universe for that one), I think it's always a good idea to make a disk image first and then test it before burning.

 

The other common sense regular suggestions you're already aware of, like recording at a slower speed. Your media should be all right, though there are those who swear always by Taiyo Yuden (Sp?) as infallible. I must admit I use TDK myself, mainly because they're inkjet printable and Costco offers huge amounts of them for practically nothing. You might want to take a look at LaCie's site to check out whether there's new firmware. I have a LaCie drive myself, and they have recently posted an update.

 

As an additional suggestion to check the original file out, you might try dropping it on the DVD-Video from the Media Browser and then choose to export it to either Quicktime MOV or DV, either of which are reasonable sources for a DVD >You will always lose some quality when you transcode like that, but if you check the export settings carefully, you should be able to keep that to a minimum.

 

Best of luck!