WHAT IS WITH THE AUDIO & TRANSITIONS? VideoWave BUTTSPLICED

[McMasters]

If I am missing something please let me know.

 

I can not figure out how to make the transitions smooth. Yes they look pretty, but the audio is BUTT SPLICED!!!!!! WHY?????????

I have never worked with an editor that didn't do this. From final cut pro to Nero7 = crossfaded audio at transitions.

The butt splice sounds horrible I might as well put no transition at all.

 

I see the picture (fading with whatever transition) into the next scene but the audio just keeps going (full blast), then clunk... next scene.

The video crossfades why not the audio?

 

Is there a setting for this? Why would it not be default?

 

If this is the way it is designed to work then it is absolutly a joke.

I come from the professional audio field, I dabble with video. This audio crossfade thing is 50% of the presentation. Without it this toy is broken.

 

I have no plans on seperating my audio from the video for my home videos, so don't suggest that.

 

Please I had to miss something, how do you create nice transitions?

I guess I will download the PDF's and dig in. Seems like one should not have to do that just to make some transitions semi-pro.

[malatekid]

Why is the native audio not visible by default?

 

Just my opinion on the "why" question"

1) one seldom tinkers with internal audio track of a video.

2) it takes a while to create the audiowave.

[McMasters]

Just my opinion on the "why" question"

1) one seldom tinkers with internal audio track of a video.

2) it takes a while to create the audiowave.

 

I know I come off sounding harsh, I am frustrated by trying and buying software over the past 4 days, just to do some really simple things. It seems like most of the software I have tried have really cool realtime rendering but the developers lost some of the basics along the way.

 

I disagree, one ALWAYS tinkers with the native audio on serious productions, and sometimes not so serious.

 

Crossfading audio is not really tinkering with audio by my definition. It just defines how two adjoining pieces of audio intersect. Tinkering to me involves filters, compression and spatial effects.

 

And rendering audio take a small fraction of the processing power as compared to video.

 

Crossfading audio is as important as crossfading video.

On an audio fade out the outcome is always absolute 0db -infinity. Which is always too quiet. It is so quiet it sounds like something is broken.

 

I am not making a trailer or pilot here, just some baby video's.

As one scene fades into the next I want the audio to follow. That's all.

When I click on the native audio track at the transition point, I either get ALL the audio from scene A or ALL the audio from scene B depending where I click inside the transition.

 

What should be there, if there was logic in the design, (digg) would be a wave window where the two native audio tracks overlap. From which I could control where and how the native audio was handeled during the video crossfade.

 

I never thought this program would not be able to crossfade audio.

I am truley at a loss for words, and very disappointed.

 

It doesn't surprise me that no-one else seems to care for the audio crossfade feature.

I worked as a professional sound engineer for over 15 years, and 9 out of 10 video guys I worked for had very little respect for the audio portion of their projects. From the field recording through the folly work audio always came second, but without good audio all their super videography, and post production was a complete waste.

 

I guess I am not too too disappointed, this app was only $80.00. I realize I am getting alot for my money.

It still seems like a huge oversite to me.

 

Enough of me ranting, this is no iMovie, I guess I'll have to find something easier that my wife can use.

Oh, well.... EMC9 has cool features, but the audio thing really burns me. How was it forgotten during the design phase of the development?

 

I'll try the overlay thing,

 

thank you for responding.

 

(SAD)

[sknis]

I know I come off sounding harsh, I am frustrated by trying and buying software over the past 4 days, just to do some really simple things. It seems like most of the software I have tried have really cool realtime rendering but the developers lost some of the basics along the way.

 

I disagree, one ALWAYS tinkers with the native audio on serious productions, and sometimes not so serious.

 

Crossfading audio is not really tinkering with audio by my definition. It just defines how two adjoining pieces of audio intersect. Tinkering to me involves filters, compression and spatial effects.

 

And rendering audio take a small fraction of the processing power as compared to video.

 

I guess I am not too too disappointed, this app was only $80.00. I realize I am getting alot for my money.

It still seems like a huge oversite to me.

 

 

(SAD)

Yes in this inexpensive program (compared to many others), the only way to do cross fade the way you want to is to extract the audio, mute the native audio, and add the extracted audio into the production. Repeat this using one of the other audio tracks for the second track. Keep repeating alternating the audio tracks until you have them all. Remember that you are not changing the original video unless you choose to over write it.

[grandpabruce]

(snip)

 

I disagree, one ALWAYS tinkers with the native audio on serious productions, and sometimes not so serious.

 

 

It doesn't surprise me that no-one else seems to care for the audio crossfade feature.

I worked as a professional sound engineer for over 15 years, and 9 out of 10 video guys I worked for had very little respect for the audio portion of their projects. From the field recording through the folly work audio always came second, but without good audio all their super videography, and post production was a complete waste.

 

I guess I am not too too disappointed, this app was only $80.00. I realize I am getting alot for my money.

It still seems like a huge oversite to me.

 

 

(SAD)

 

I don't tinker with my native audio, unless there is a real blunder in it.

 

As far as the crossfading goes, I haven't really had the need to do it. When I am video taping, I rarely say anything for the first few seconds or the last few seconds, each time I do a little recording. That way, when I split out sections and add transitions, the audio matches what I did while taping.

 

And, this is a consumer grade program. One that has a lot of bells and whistles. It works well for me.

[McMasters]

the only way to do cross fade the way you want to is to extract the audio, mute the native audio, and add the extracted audio into the production. Repeat this using one of the other audio tracks for the second track. Keep repeating alternating the audio tracks until you have them all. Remember that you are not changing the original video unless you choose to over write it.

 

Whew,

Roxio are you listening.

 

That seems like a whole lot of work. For the most basic part of a video job. The audio.

I figured the video features would be lacking in a sub $100 product.

Yet it seems to handle video quite well, along with some very cool real-time fx.

It just lacks that one very basic function.

 

It is different then the way I am used to working. All those steps for a simple audio crossfade is borderline insain. Back to seaching for simple video editing software.

 

Someone at Roxio needs to write some code.

Think intuitive. Features follow functionality.

[grandpabruce]

[snip]

 

Back to seaching for simple video editing software.

 

 

And that closes yet another chapter in "Fading Into The Night".

[Merv]

If I am missing something please let me know.

 

I can not figure out how to make the transitions smooth. Yes they look pretty, but the audio is BUTT SPLICED!!!!!! WHY?????????

I have never worked with an editor that didn't do this. From final cut pro to Nero7 = crossfaded audio at transitions.

The butt splice sounds horrible I might as well put no transition at all.

 

I see the picture (fading with whatever transition) into the next scene but the audio just keeps going (full blast), then clunk... next scene.

The video crossfades why not the audio?

 

Is there a setting for this? Why would it not be default?

 

If this is the way it is designed to work then it is absolutly a joke.

I come from the professional audio field, I dabble with video. This audio crossfade thing is 50% of the presentation. Without it this toy is broken.

 

I have no plans on seperating my audio from the video for my home videos, so don't suggest that.

 

Please I had to miss something, how do you create nice transitions?

I guess I will download the PDF's and dig in. Seems like one should not have to do that just to make some transitions semi-pro.

 

Not sure exactly what you want to do. If you are trying to overlap the native audio (the audio incorporated into the video) from one video to the next, you cannot do that in the video track. You might try placing one video clip on the video track, followed by a color panel set to the duration of the 2nd clip. Then place the second clip on the overlay track on the color panel but slightly overlapping the end of the first clip. I have not tried that, but it should work.

 

If you are simply trying to achieve a fade in/fade out of the native audio, right clip on the video clip, select Edit>Native Audio, and set the Fade In/Fade Out duration from that screen.

 

Finally, you may get more suggestions from this forum if you soften the tone of your post. Just my recommendation.

 

BTW - Notice I said nothing about separating the video from the audio, although that would be the easiest solution of all.

[McMasters]

FOUND IT!!!

 

SHOW NATIVE AUDIO in timeline.

 

 

That was easy.

 

Why is the native audio not visible by default?

 

Anyway,

back to work....