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Piinaki

Making Audio Master CD

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Hello Readers. :)

Thank you for taking the time to read this thread. I need help from the fellow readers here.

 

I'm a musician (DJ) and am working on CD glass masters. I just got a copy of TOAST TITANIUM 8 and I read that it supports PQ Code and ISRC for tracks. I did not see this option anywhere. Before I go and buy out the expensive BIAS PEAK, is this possible to do in TOAST 8 Titanium?

 

Any help, please ? :rolleyes:

 

Cheers.

Pinaki

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Open the Toast preferences and select the Audio&Video tab. Check "Show advanced audio mastering settings" and close the preferences. Now in Audio format, when you press More or Get Info on a track, you can set the ISRC and other PQ code info.

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Open the Toast preferences and select the Audio&Video tab. Check "Show advanced audio mastering settings" and close the preferences. Now in Audio format, when you press More or Get Info on a track, you can set the ISRC and other PQ code info.

 

Will Toast print out a sheet of PQ info for a master that has all the track info with start and stops times that are frame accurate?

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Toast does not print.

 

 

Well can it export this data/information? I'm not so worried about the print function as much as the ability to collect the data in some fashion that can perhaps be printed in another program.

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You can save as a disc image or Toast document, but I'm not aware of any program that can read out the info you need for printing.

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You can save as a disc image or Toast document, but I'm not aware of any program that can read out the info you need for printing.

 

Well certainly all professional mastering programs can collect PQ data. I've ben using Emagic Waveburner for years which allows you to save the PQ data as a text file...then I print it in Word.

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Well certainly all professional mastering programs can collect PQ data. I've ben using Emagic Waveburner for years which allows you to save the PQ data as a text file...then I print it in Word.

 

Sorry for dragging this thread on here, but I have a couple of questions about Toast 8 before I buy.

 

Is the intention that Jam has been folded into Toast now? Jam is no longer for sale is that true?

 

Jam has a feature called 'save as text' which saves the disc timing info as a text file which can then be printed out. Does Toast 8 have this?

 

Thanks!

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Sorry for dragging this thread on here, but I have a couple of questions about Toast 8 before I buy.

 

Is the intention that Jam has been folded into Toast now? Jam is no longer for sale is that true?

 

Jam has a feature called 'save as text' which saves the disc timing info as a text file which can then be printed out. Does Toast 8 have this?

 

Thanks!

 

 

From what I have read, it doesn't have that feature anymore.

 

Just curious, what do you need this printed in text for?

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From what I have read, it doesn't have that feature anymore.

 

Just curious, what do you need this printed in text for?

 

 

In order to send a CD master to a duplicator / replicator for manufacture, they require a timing sheet printout. The printout details track IDs, timing / spacing, and other tech-related info. Without it, the disc will likely not be accepted. Or if it is, mistakes may be made as there is no reference sheet to refer to.

 

Jam had this feature, and it was removed in Toast 8. Hence, a pro-level program has now been reduced to hobby-level software.

 

I wish the powers that be at Roxio would wake up already. This incredibly stupid decision is the talk of the town here in NYC, where seemingly every recording engineer alternately laughs or cries as it is discussed. Not since Gibson bought OPCODE have a heard a company bashed as much as I have heard Roxio bashed over this past year. I mean people are FUMING here.

 

Add to this is the fact that many of us have years worth of Jam documents that we may have to open in the future for clients. With Toast 8 as it is, we cannot use it. With the uncertainly as to whether or not Jam will continue to work on future machines and OS versions, we could be looking at hours of lost work on a regular basis, in trying to recreate "lost" CD playlists from Jam documents. What professional would EVER trust Roxio again with their work?

 

The weird part of it is that it would have been so simple to leave to feature in. Some bozo actually went OUT OF THEIR WAY to do this.

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In order to send a CD master to a duplicator / replicator for manufacture, they require a timing sheet printout. The printout details track IDs, timing / spacing, and other tech-related info. Without it, the disc will likely not be accepted. Or if it is, mistakes may be made as there is no reference sheet to refer to.

 

Jam had this feature, and it was removed in Toast 8. Hence, a pro-level program has now been reduced to hobby-level software.

 

I wish the powers that be at Roxio would wake up already. This incredibly stupid decision is the talk of the town here in NYC, where seemingly every recording engineer alternately laughs or cries as it is discussed. Not since Gibson bought OPCODE have a heard a company bashed as much as I have heard Roxio bashed over this past year. I mean people are FUMING here.

 

Add to this is the fact that many of us have years worth of Jam documents that we may have to open in the future for clients. With Toast 8 as it is, we cannot use it. With the uncertainly as to whether or not Jam will continue to work on future machines and OS versions, we could be looking at hours of lost work on a regular basis, in trying to recreate "lost" CD playlists from Jam documents. What professional would EVER trust Roxio again with their work?

 

The weird part of it is that it would have been so simple to leave to feature in. Some bozo actually went OUT OF THEIR WAY to do this.

 

What are the alternatives to Toast 8 (and not still running Jam)? Competition? Thanks. -Mike- B)

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Will Toast print out a sheet of PQ info for a master that has all the track info with start and stops times that are frame accurate?

Another voice as to these essential issues. First, I use Mac and I have used every one of these programs. In the case of Toast, since it came out. I have used Masterlist CD from Digidesign, Waveburner, Bias Peak and even Sonic Premaster CD. Now I know that Sonic (which owns Roxio) is positioning Pre Master as their pro product. But JAM has been in use for years and has worked fine as a Mac based pre master CD setup program. I have used Jam to pre master 100's of CD that have been successfully replicated and released. Jam has a great print function. But now with Jam "features" folded into Toast, You can no longer open Jam documents, which mean you must recreate your lists if you need to repress and you can no longer print. If you did complex crossfades or special variable gaps, these are all lost or if recreated will be different. Toast at the very least should open Jam documents and allow the same print functions as Jam. Or Premaster CD should be offered at a reduced price for Jam owners as an upgrade and should be able to open Jam docs. Many things related to mastering media will be changing very soon, Roxio and Sonic needs to make programs that have friendly user interfaces and address the issues both pro and consumer level users need.

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