Name changing with AIFF file

[muso-man]

Hi I'm new here and need help with a very frustrating problem.

 

I just bought Roxio Toast 8, as i thought the upgrade from 7 might solve this problem, but alas not.

 

I use a Mac Intel system with up to date software.

 

The problem:

 

I'm trying to make an "Enhanced" format CD with just a single AIFF track and a Quicktime Movie.

 

I've read the intructions and name the AIFF track accordingly (even entering the ISRC code from the master disc which we have), but when I mount the finished item onto the desktop, the track name has changed to "She Hates me", by "Puddle of Mud", a track that I don't have anywhere on my computer. The content of the AIFF track is of course what I wanted, but the title is totally wrong - every time.

 

Any help out there?

 

Thanks

 

David

[tsantee]

Mac's don't read the track information burned to an audio CD. The first time an audio CD is inserted your Mac automatically searches a CD Info.cdib database file in your User>Library>Preferences folder. If it doesn't find any matches for the the total number of tracks and track lengths it searches the online CDDB and downloads the info if a match exists there. My guess is the CDDB has a listing with the name you describe that happens to have only one track that is the same length as yours.

 

What can you do? In iTunes you can change the name to be what it should be. This should update the CD Info.cdib file on your Mac. However, other people inserting that disc in their computers likely will get the erroneous CDDB download if they are connected to the Internet when they insert the CD. You can use Toast (or iTunes) to upload your album/track/artist information from your CD to CDDB. What that does is cause CDDB to present a message asking which album information one wants to download because there are multiple matches.

 

The info you burned to your CD is called CD Text. That requires a special CD-Text-capable CD player to read. You should be able to see the CD Text info on your burned CD by choosing Disc Info from the Toast Recorder menu.

[muso-man]

Mac's don't read the track information burned to an audio CD. The first time an audio CD is inserted your Mac automatically searches a CD Info.cdib database file in your User>Library>Preferences folder. If it doesn't find any matches for the the total number of tracks and track lengths it searches the online CDDB and downloads the info if a match exists there. My guess is the CDDB has a listing with the name you describe that happens to have only one track that is the same length as yours.

 

What can you do? In iTunes you can change the name to be what it should be. This should update the CD Info.cdib file on your Mac. However, other people inserting that disc in their computers likely will get the erroneous CDDB download if they are connected to the Internet when they insert the CD. You can use Toast (or iTunes) to upload your album/track/artist information from your CD to CDDB. What that does is cause CDDB to present a message asking which album information one wants to download because there are multiple matches.

 

The info you burned to your CD is called CD Text. That requires a special CD-Text-capable CD player to read. You should be able to see the CD Text info on your burned CD by choosing Disc Info from the Toast Recorder menu.

 

Thanks thats very useful information - if a little scary as I've got to send the disc away for manufacture, and if a Radio Station insert the disc into their computer it could take on the title of something else...

 

I have now noticed that if I import the wrongly titled disc BACK into TOAST then the original details I added are in fact present. This is far from ideal from a confidence point of view, i guess i might have to look further afield for a more professional RED BOOK CD Master creator...unless anyone has any other solution...

[tsantee]

Thanks thats very useful information - if a little scary as I've got to send the disc away for manufacture, and if a Radio Station insert the disc into their computer it could take on the title of something else...

 

I have now noticed that if I import the wrongly titled disc BACK into TOAST then the original details I added are in fact present. This is far from ideal from a confidence point of view, i guess i might have to look further afield for a more professional RED BOOK CD Master creator...unless anyone has any other solution...

This has nothing to do with Toast or how the CD is mastered. It is simply the result of the way computers access album/artist/track information for audio CDs. You can't do anything about it other than possibly add a second or two of silence to the end of the track so it no longer matches the one that some fool submitted to CDDB. Or add a second track silent track of a couple seconds. Otherwise, If you do upload your track info to CDDB then others will be given a choice of which CD info is downloaded from CDDB. Radio Station folks are familiar with this.

[muso-man]

I get it - thanks for taking the time to answer. I'll try to add or edit some silence and see if it sorts it.

[muso-man]

I get it - thanks for taking the time to answer. I'll try to add or edit some silence and see if it sorts it.

 

 

BINGO.

 

I put my previously (apparently wrongly-named) disc in the computer, opened up ITUNES, selected the track name, artist etc. and changed them to the correct details. I then uploaded this data to the CDDB and viola! The next time I put the disc in the computer the right data displayed.