Is Emc 8 Worth Upgrading From 7.5?

[mikes0765]

I have a few questions that I need answered in order to make a decision to upgrade or not.

 

Does EMC 8 support mpeg4?

 

Does EMC 8 support widescreen 16x9 ratio?

 

I've been using Nero for the above functions and I want to just used one sofwear for all my needs instead of using diffrent programs for different things. Thanks.

 

Mike

 

OPPPs one more question.

 

 

Somtimes I have partial DVD's copied (eg. a single scene or 2). I have no problem converting to mpg on nero, yet roxio doesn't seem to want to do that. Thanks again.

 

Mike

[d_deweywright]

Okay I am cooling off now, got my hack machine out of storage and a new dvd-dl burner and all hacked stuff, so I can get my work done!!!, so much for being legit. I had a good 10 year run clean as a whistle, but the millenium fixed that.

 

The next problem, Roxio cripples Sonic recordnow.

 

Sonic recordnow although slow to load had never shown me any problems till roxio creator was installed and did its funky thing with my system. I lost all access to my drives, then fixed it to a point where I could play, soon I could erase dvd rw's which is now a crap shoot?! But the major problem now is when I go to back up clients work ( I reproduce VHS to DVDs for home movies) and I use roxios program it says you cannot backup video_ts please use dvd-copy which is a program that copys the movie (made by clicktodvd a sony product) to dvd by destroing DVD+R DL, and gives me a very informative and helpful message:

 

px.dll

2.7.17.500

sense 03 asc

dcascq:00

(command 2a)

 

So I went to my trusted sonic recordnow (working for nearly a year) and tried that and it does exactly what roxio does!, only it reports the DVD-DL is Dirty, ALL OF THEM? verbatim, memorex, and now fuji as well. So if its the drive I think why does sony clicktodvd work?, and my nero express works?, and roxio worked for a few weeks also before it suddenly upped and went awol on me, and seems to have taken sonic down with it?

 

OH yes I asked support for help and now I have two open issues pending, the one mentioned above and now this one.

 

As I said I am about to resort to what everyone else does, get a hacked version and watch it actually work!!, aint that bizarre, Paid customers get screwed and hackers get working versions, fixed, and help from real computer nerds who can tell you what the company is doing to screw you up... thats unbeleaveable!. I even support pD wares like 602software I own at least 100 pacjkages and haven't given out 1 copy to anyone, I encourage people to buy and i got the short end of the stick for it.

You know, I've tried for at least 20 minutes to come up with a clear picture of what you're trying to say, and I just can't. You've confounded the issue with more software and possibly more hardware, so we (or at least I) don't know which machine you might be using, and what software in what order.

 

While it's obvious you're upset, could you slow down and give us a single threaded description of exactly the steps you're taking to create your DVD? Also, give us the make and model of the drive you're using, the rest of the system specs (operating system, processor speed, available RAM and disk space). Stick with one system, making one disc. Tell us what program you start first and what you do with it. Move on to the next program. Tell us which Roxio application is breaking and exactly what input you're giving it.

 

You say you make DVDs from people's VHS tapes. I have to assume you've done this successfully. What applications did you use then, and do they still work? On this exact same system? Remember, we're not looking over your shoulder to see what you're doing, and unless you give us an extremely clear description of what you're doing, we can't help very well. Ranting is all well and good, but it usually doesn't help you write a clear problem description.

[sknis]

That px.dll seems to be tied to winamp and since you are having audio problems, my guess it that it has become lost or corrupt. Delete whatever version you have and install the latest version. You may have to do a registry clean-up between the uninstall and the install.

 

okay i am using another computer to get my DVD business done so I'm not a victum of roxio as much.

 

1) The program that needs to be addressed now and I've seen it on other forums without answers.

 

"sense 03 asc 0c ascq:00 (command 2a) px.dll 2.7.17.500"

 

Everytime I try to burn a dvd, dvd/dl I get thi smessage from roxio 8 and now sonic recordnow 7. I am running a Sony vaio pcv-rs720g, pioreer dvd+R dl 108, 1.5 gigs ram, 3.2 HT cpu's, and this message occurs on fuji, verbatin, sony, memorex DVD's and DVD +RDL's

 

This is new since I installed roxio 7.5 and now am running 8.0, and no one has helped and no one has answers in any forums I can find onlines short of re-installing the entire system and a person who did that does not indicate that the problem was solved.

 

2) Playing specific DVD's like the 5th element fails to play audio.

 

3) The TV capture program has also been crippled and I did not know about it until this last weekend, I have a call in to Sony about this and I stand an excellent chance of getting it resolved

 

The culprit is most likely roxio since I stopped installing and buying new software after roxio creator 8 due to the sudden outbreak of issues.

 

any help would be appeciated, i have time to putzs with problems at home again.

[Merv]

Okay I am cooling off now, got my hack machine out of storage and a new dvd-dl burner and all hacked stuff, so I can get my work done!!!, so much for being legit. I had a good 10 year run clean as a whistle, but the millenium fixed that.

 

The next problem, Roxio cripples Sonic recordnow.

 

Sonic recordnow although slow to load had never shown me any problems till roxio creator was installed and did its funky thing with my system. I lost all access to my drives, then fixed it to a point where I could play, soon I could erase dvd rw's which is now a crap shoot?! But the major problem now is when I go to back up clients work ( I reproduce VHS to DVDs for home movies) and I use roxios program it says you cannot backup video_ts please use dvd-copy which is a program that copys the movie (made by clicktodvd a sony product) to dvd by destroing DVD+R DL, and gives me a very informative and helpful message:

 

px.dll

2.7.17.500

sense 03 asc

dcascq:00

(command 2a)

 

So I went to my trusted sonic recordnow (working for nearly a year) and tried that and it does exactly what roxio does!, only it reports the DVD-DL is Dirty, ALL OF THEM? verbatim, memorex, and now fuji as well. So if its the drive I think why does sony clicktodvd work?, and my nero express works?, and roxio worked for a few weeks also before it suddenly upped and went awol on me, and seems to have taken sonic down with it?

 

OH yes I asked support for help and now I have two open issues pending, the one mentioned above and now this one.

 

As I said I am about to resort to what everyone else does, get a hacked version and watch it actually work!!, aint that bizarre, Paid customers get screwed and hackers get working versions, fixed, and help from real computer nerds who can tell you what the company is doing to screw you up... thats unbeleaveable!. I even support pD wares like 602software I own at least 100 pacjkages and haven't given out 1 copy to anyone, I encourage people to buy and i got the short end of the stick for it.

 

I, like Dave. am having a hard time following what you say is happening, what you have tried to fix the problem(s), and which machine. One thing I did notice buried in your last post was a reference to Sony's Click-To-DVD. I don't know what kind of machine you have, but my Sony computer came with that software and it conflicted with EMC 6 and 7 (haven't tried it with V8). I removed it and my Roxio products worked fine. I know from posts in the old forums others had the same conflict. Just to give it a shot, try removing Click-To-DVD and see if the Roxio/Sonic products will function properly.

 

Also, please respond to the the questions Dave posed. That will help with further trying to identify the issue.

[duftopia]

Well I shouldn't have to, first a program should not have serious bugs right out of the box, and second support should be on top of it!

 

Well I've been doing that just added one 2 days ago and waiting, and a simple problem I can't play certain DVD's like the 5th element, I posted th eentire problem on support and 4 days later nothing and then posted it on a forum and 2 days later nothing.

 

So when someone wanted an opinion I most certianly had one, and backed by facts. I mean just how can you sell a program in best buy that when installed cripples, I mean cripples ALL your multimedia lasr devices?, I mean thats simply bizzar!, and when uninstalled left them crippled - 4 DAYS, thats 4 DAYS and I had to go back return the program and upgrade to version 8.0 and go through 2 or was it 3 days of faq solutions before I up and went to V-Coms uninstall and wiped all signs of life out!.

 

RESTORE files were removed as well so I could not back out!, I only saw 1 most recent virus TRY to do such a thing, and pay $80 for that!

 

NO my opinion is not very good yet, and surely I am waiting to see what SONIC does to the roxio crowd and crossing my fingers for an improvement but so far like clockwork I have to do 1 re-install bi-monthly to use the product, Im hope to hell they get it to quarterly soon.

 

If you want to try to fix it I will post at least 4 or 5 problems right now, but then again I chould have paid you and employed you with my $80 to do that. Hey I own 2 copys of system suite, 4 of netfusiion, at least 4 windows (all legit, licensed) I am a staunch supporter of good programming and hate to go back to my highschool years where everything was pirate and free but this incident amounst others convinces me that is the only way to get a decent work enviroment.

 

Dec 2004 I buy a vaio over a grand, 60 days later my office expires!, so what the #& did I buy a computer for if not a decent word processor, spreadsheet etc.. so I get stiffed for another 150 bills.

 

I run my DVD burner a few months later when I go to copy a dvd for backup and find my legit copy programs do not work?, so I get Icopydvds2 but that doesn't do the extra features and when I take it with me to a friends house for a movie bash I'm the one who gets bashed, SO Why even include a dvd drive just to watch movies on a 17" when in 1985 I had a 27" TV?, certainly not to play allolt of music while you work cause thats also protected!?!?! - -

 

Then i get roxio, so now I can combine videos, it even says that on the box?!?! and it works with dvd-dl's, well $30+ of trashed DVDs says that does not work!, and WEEKS, I mean WEEKS of lost time doesn't help that matter at all.

 

I get an image program now owned by symantec and it has to run some pqdi program 20 megs of memory and 10% cpu 24 hours a day and report everything to symantec, when powerquests program (which i owed 4 copies of and who know how many my clients bought and installed) worked all the time without incident, ghost needs 256K to boot, and that the old version?

 

outlook has been crashing every single day when retrieving my mail, I reported it to Microsoft repeatedly for 4 month, talk to my isp provider and just gave up. I have to start my message downloads 2 time everyday to get all my messages cause it only crashed the first time and no one seems to be able to help!

 

I needed a photofixer program and bought digital imaging 10, that also crippled my system, however when the people at MS who are responsible for it got called they fixed it in two days, I could swear they sold it crippled so that you HAD to register it online and one of there techies HAD to fix an intention bug, aint that sweet.

 

I upgrade to net fusion 8 and my website is crippled a whole month, the upgrade does not allow you to go back to the old version and in fact cripples and destroys the old version backups and so I am on the blower with these people until my face turned blue and I gave up, and now I have to dish out who know how much to buy another website posting program

 

MSmoney that I bought for my bro doesn't work, and i've upgraded that every year, some bansk keep up, some don't some support the old format only and you can't use the new format and old simultaneously (I am told)

 

DOs Evo in a phot shop puchased hardware and software is crippleware, there scanner program does not interface properly cause there support can't speak english amounst other things like no error trapping, no quality control.

 

And IF you try to remove the internet spy modules from MS or other programs they won't work so I have to live with a big grother that I paid a grand to own!.

 

20 years in the computer inductry, pc's unix, mainframes, programming, developing and I've never seen such a collection of bugs, and wild bugs like writing modules that fall though the code when errors occur and do wild things almost as bad as viruses, or crippling hardware!, wow roxio made my list this year, only beating out netfusion by a small margin.

 

Okay so I am retaining allot of tension. I was on the net before www was invented and talked to people who had serious serious computation problems and computer issues were mostly not having quick enough hardware to meet needs, no the internet has millions of forums where people have to ask the same questions over and over and all due to a simple 1 line error and NO Q&A, it seems the public has become beta testers and companies do not even intend to release a working copy of there programs, just change the revision number and keep running your bugs, your users wil get use to them and soon think they have an excellent product.

 

Like Politics one candidate worst then the other, no I am seriusly regreting that I did not get Neros suite, I guess adaptec who made the original creator swayed my iopinion.

 

AND just one question what the &@%# is GPDBwatcher.exe I saw that monster 20 years ago in the adaptec version and had always killed it and now its still in the roxio/sonic version, and it doesn't do anything short of maybe logging something into a hidden file!

 

Whew.......

 

I expect a response....yeh right

Michael

 

ps: 3 days ago my latest inciddent - - - - - -> Response still pending

 

I popped in my 5th element DVD to play and it reported that cineplayer could not play the audio

When I try to play my dvd it fails, at first it pops up a message that the region is incorrect on the dvd (and it isn't) then when it does play it reports "audio has been lost because the selected audio formatcannot be decoded with sonic cinemaster decoder, if you have an external spdif audio receiver, cinemastercould pass the audio to that device, otherwise change your audio selection preference"

 

I tried everything I could from changeing the audio to stereo, analog, digital etc...

 

I have a sony vaio pcv-rs720g which uses a yahaha sound card, if you cannot anwer this question please direct me to where I can possible find an answer.

 

Thank you.

Michael

[michaeltee]

I have installed and uninstalled EMC8 more times than I can count...

This being the case, I wonder if you could tell me which applications are mandatory installs when using the "custom" install option. All I really need from version 8 is Music Disc Creator however based upon previous experiences with version 7 and 7.5 there will be certain components of the suite that cannot be de-selected. Reason for asking... my PC is already fairly heavy with multimedia programs so less is better.

 

Thanks!

[bimicher]

Well I shouldn't have to, first a program should not have serious bugs right out of the box, and second support should be on top of it!

 

.

 

Thank you.

Michael

 

I tried to read your rantings but gave up trying to make any sense of it. It seems like every piece of software you ever got is out to get you! You complain about support not being able to speak english, well the same can be said about you not being able to write a comprehensible sentence in english. What a waste of forum space!

[mathewrev]

I can't speak for the majority, of course, but I have used a variety of the products in EMC for years, some since before they were owned by Roxio.

 

I have used every version of the CD burning program since version 4, Videowave version 4, 6 and 7, the version 6 package, and EMC7.

 

EMC 8 is the first time with any of these programs that I have been so frustrated I wished I had never bought the software. I have never had so many problems getting a program to work the way I wanted it to. Even worse, support has been non-existent for the last four months.

 

Overall, I think they tried adding too much too fast. They didn't give themselves time to really work the bugs out of the new features and lost sight of the old features many of us really liked.

 

So - it's back to version 7 for me and roxio/sonic are on my caution list. It is unlikely I will buy from them again unless I suddenly see rave reviews that they have dramatically increased the usefulness of their support system.

 

I would say, if you are happy with version 7.5, DO NOT UPGRADE!

[Larry]

Well I ...............

............

Michael

Still looks like ranting. No info on what specific Roxio 7.5 or 8.0 problem(s) have been encountered, so no suggestions from your fellow users this user forum will be forthcoming.

[Brendon]

Snap! Bruce.

 

I did the same with 6, and recovered with Ghost.

Ghost is my friend.

[grandpabruce]

Snap! Bruce.

 

I did the same with 6, and recovered with Ghost.

Ghost is my friend.

 

LOL! I have not clue how they could improve on Ghost. I actually use the 2003 version, because I still have a floppy drive and do not want to install Netframe to be able to use my 2005 version. With the floppy version, you don't even need to have Ghost installed on your computer.

 

Ghost is so simple to use, and I have never had a problem in "ghosting" back, since I first started using it in 2000. It has saved me many times, where System Restore may get you back, SOMETIMES, but for the most part, is impotent.

 

Edit: I forgot that the newest version of CinePlayer installed NetFrame, so maybe I will give the 2005 version a go.

[duftopia]

Version 7.5 crippled my system like I've never seen in my life!, it was an evassive problem that may still be troubling me till today. My DVD drives are still F%^#% Up.

 

Version 8.0 therefore is a MUST, at least version 8 does not cripple however creator is a seriously bugging program, i've had to reload it once every two months, and it changes on a whim.

 

I've also spent over $30 trying to burn DL CD's, the dam program spends hours writing and then fails with a wack job error code - right at the end and the DL DVD pops up as a cd on my system.

 

IF, and i say IF, you want to stay with roxio you are in fr a rough ride, HOWEVER when sonic aquire them I bought there product in hopes that Sonic would at the very least straighten out the line, but roxio has instead screwed up my sonic record now as well, so going on 6 month I still have a dozen unaddressed errors (one pending right now).

 

Roxio also likes t spy on you when your logged on to the internet, even when you are making lables it trys to connect to its server?

 

I would have suggested nero (only becuase it doesn't cripple your machine), however I have yet to find a REAL profesional package that lives up t all its claims, and nero is also weak in many areas.

 

I will try slysoft soon, when they get more interactive. Good luck!

 

DUF

[pickanewname]

Personally I would not recommend EMC8 to anyone. I can't burn more than one CD or DVD without rebooting my PC. It just keeps prompting me to insert blank media any time I try to burn more than one disk at a time. On top of that I can't print disk inserts or jacket covers for the Cd's I do burn, they always print out in the wrong size. It would appear that I have spent a lot of money for two beer coasters.

[d_deweywright]

Still looks like ranting. No info on what specific Roxio 7.5 or 8.0 problem(s) have been encountered, so no suggestions from your fellow users this user forum will be forthcoming.

The only specific Roxio/Sonic issue I could pick out was that his 5th Element DVD won't play because of an apparent codec error. It would be helpful to know if other DVDs play okay, because if so, we can say there's something funky going on with that particular disc. If the problem happens with all DVDs, then there's an apparent problem with the installation.

 

There was mention of other problem reports, but I suspect those went directly to Support, and since we don't have any visibility to that on these forums, there's a disconnect, and he may be expecting us users to respond to those, which we can't, since we don't see them.

[sknis]

There is an old addage that comes to mind. "You can't teach old dogs new tricks". I don't really believe that. There is another phrase 'There are some that can't learn and those that won't" - This poster is the later. I wonder if the poster read any of the literature that comes with programs -- especially those that are pre-installed on the computer. Perhaps we should ask what version of DOS he is using.

 

I tried to read your rantings but gave up trying to make any sense of it. It seems like every piece of software you ever got is out to get you! You complain about support not being able to speak english, well the same can be said about you not being able to write a comprehensible sentence in english. What a waste of forum space!

[grandpabruce]

Version 7.5 crippled my system like I've never seen in my life!, it was an evassive problem that may still be troubling me till today. My DVD drives are still F%^#% Up.

 

Version 8.0 therefore is a MUST, at least version 8 does not cripple however creator is a seriously bugging program, i've had to reload it once every two months, and it changes on a whim.

 

I've also spent over $30 trying to burn DL CD's, the dam program spends hours writing and then fails with a wack job error code - right at the end and the DL DVD pops up as a cd on my system.

 

IF, and i say IF, you want to stay with roxio you are in fr a rough ride, HOWEVER when sonic aquire them I bought there product in hopes that Sonic would at the very least straighten out the line, but roxio has instead screwed up my sonic record now as well, so going on 6 month I still have a dozen unaddressed errors (one pending right now).

 

Roxio also likes t spy on you when your logged on to the internet, even when you are making lables it trys to connect to its server?

 

I would have suggested nero (only becuase it doesn't cripple your machine), however I have yet to find a REAL profesional package that lives up t all its claims, and nero is also weak in many areas.

 

I will try slysoft soon, when they get more interactive. Good luck!

 

DUF

 

I haven't seen a post on your dozen unsolved problems. If you explain your problems, now that you are done ranting, maybe someone on these boards could help you.

[site400]

Until they provide the patch they been promising since the second day it came out I would hold off. Granted, some folks have no problems whatsoever (which I find hard to believe), a majority of us have had minor to major issues.

 

Unless you really like excess stress and frustration, i'd wait till I see they issued a patch.

[JC]

A patch was released during 12/05.

[my7551]

Just an opinion (opinions are ok, aren't they?)

 

While I don't understand the total post-content, I do understand the "feeling."

 

After the rough start-up of Windows "Plug and Play," regular consumers ASSUMED (and still do) that an offered-program or harware item will perform. That they ALL do not is anger-city.

 

I do not know of ANY offered-product that tells you, up front, that you have to clear your computer of any/all related products.

Once you read the System Requirements and say, "yep, I meet or beat that," you expect results.

 

After a few disasters, people got to understand that two different same-type programs can't ask a piece of harware to do something AT THE SAME TIME. I'm still confounded that there are problems when ONLY one is being run and there is a "hardware conflict." Or, a conflict with the not-running software.

 

Seems to me that if you have EMC-X, Nero-X, and Pinnacle-X installed, then you Should be able to run ANY one with the others just sitting there unused. I'm sure Gurus have the reasons for this down-pat, but it isn't obvious to the general public.

 

The poster has tried a LOT of programs, yet has not got his desired end-product.

WHY he hasn't is subject to a LOT of things.

 

So, there is no point to "belittle" someone who has found a "place" to air his dificulties.

Understand the frustration ...

 

Maybe the only way, in this case, is a start over.

Delete EVERTHING, clean the registry, and pick a single program?

[sknis]

I searched the Dell site and there seems to be a fix. Go there and search for the error message. I got close but I could not get to the page. Perhaps you can try later. If you have a dell , perhaps you can call technical services.

That px.dll seems to be tied to winamp and since you are having audio problems, my guess it that it has become lost or corrupt. Delete whatever version you have and install the latest version. You may have to do a registry clean-up between the uninstall and the install.

[ggrussell]

a majority of us have had minor to major issues.

 

I wouldn't say a majority of users are having problems. From what little info I've read, there are a lot less users having trouble with the first release of EMC8 than previous versions. I have installed and uninstalled EMC8 more times than I can count trying to duplicate problems. I haven't had a single problem on either of the machines listed below. As Ripley would say... 'Believe it or not'.

[ggrussell]

Does EMC 8 support mpeg4?

 

Yes and No, if you want MP4 support, the answer is no. But you can create files using Microsoft's MPEG4 codec and DivX.

 

Does EMC 8 support widescreen 16x9 ratio?

 

Yes, widescreen is fully supported in Videowave and MyDVD 8. You can even combine 16:9 with 4:3 video and it works flawless. Videowave will just letterbox the appropriate file. Like creating a 16:9 Project and then add a 4:3, VW8 will add bars to the sides to make it 16:9.

 

Somtimes I have partial DVD's copied (eg. a single scene or 2).

 

Depends on how the disc was created. If it is a 'true' video DVD disc, then Media Import should have no trouble. Media Import can also read DVD VR discs.

[grandpabruce]

Until they provide the patch they been promising since the second day it came out I would hold off. Granted, some folks have no problems whatsoever (which I find hard to believe), a majority of us have had minor to major issues.

 

Unless you really like excess stress and frustration, i'd wait till I see they issued a patch.

 

What majority would that be? Do you actually have numbers? I would be interested in those numbers. Really, I am not kidding.

[robmel1]

The updated version 8.05 may already be on shelves in your area and you may not have to download the patch. To answer your question, I believe the file is about that size.

 

How is version 8.05 identified on the box?

 

Robert

[grandpabruce]

How is version 8.05 identified on the box?

 

Robert

 

I would bet it says Version 8, since the patch is only an update, not an upgrade. The newer boxes on the shelf may already be updated to 8.05. If there was anything about it being updated to 8.05, it would probably be in small letters, somewhere on the box.

[qtg@canoemail.com]

I wish I had Ghost on my machine now. After 3 days of searching the forum and trying all the patch and fixes, I've finally given up on EMC 8. Nothing worked at all. And now that it's removed, my computer is a mess and it running like poop. I have never ever had this much trouble with a piece of software. Bugs? no, more like a swarm of locusts. I didn't realize you had to be Bill Gates to load this software. Wow, I can hardly believe this. Thank goodess you got 5 free CD-R with the box, since I now have 5 coasters. I will keep trying though...maybe I'll format the drive and see if it will work better with a clean slate.