REDWAGON Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I just read in one of my computer magazines where Samsung now has a 32GB flash drive that you can use to install and boot your operating system from. It's just a matter of time till they have a huge (100's of GB's) flash drive that will do the same thing. Boot times, less heat and speed will be greatly improved. The old EIDE and SATA drives will soon be a lost hardware if this keeps up. Frank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Are you suggesting that flash drives which run on a USB 2 is faster that SATA? I wouldn't think so. Takes me forever to just copy a few JPG files. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I think Frank's point is more that as the solid state 'drives' increase in capacity they will move from USB2 to internal with direct connection to the data bus. Then you'll see speeds that will leave even SATA2 standing still Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 I make no assumptions when reading a post. Frank's post appeared to me to be about a 'thumb drive'. That's what I have always seen referred to as a 'flash drive'. ----------- After a quick search Actually, we both missed it. Samsung has already announced a 64GB solid state HARD DRIVE based on 'flash' memory to replace hard drives in mobile devices like laptops. This is a great idea since these would consume much less power and wouldn't have to worry about HD heads if dropped, etc. See this article These types of drives have been around for some time. Just really expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Most drives were when they came out Gary - remember when half a gig almost had you going grovel, grovel to the bank manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 remember when half a gig almost had you going grovel, grovel to the bank manager? I can remember when a 20MB hard drive was huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWAGON Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 "I make no assumptions when reading a post. Frank's post appeared to me to be about a 'thumb drive'" Sorry if you assumed something that I didn't intend Gary. The article I read was not about a "thumb" drive at all. It was an interior drive you could install that had a bootable operating system on it. And was NOT USB driven. And I'm not suggesting at all that flash drives on USB are faster than SATA drives. That was your "asumption". This new drive I was reading about WILL be faster than a SATA drive. "I think Frank's point is more that as the solid state 'drives' increase in capacity they will move from USB2 to internal with direct connection to the data bus. Then you'll see speeds that will leave even SATA2 standing still" Your assumption Daithi is pretty much what these new drives are all about. The drive Gary was talking about of 64GB I hadn't seen or read about yet but it's just a matter of time before they will be over 100GB. "Samsung has already announced a 64GB solid state HARD DRIVE based on 'flash' memory..." Frank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggrussell Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Sorry if you assumed something that I didn't intend Gary. The article I read was not about a "thumb" drive at all. It was an interior drive you could install that had a bootable operating system on it. But you didn't state that in your first post. You just posted 'flash drive' and I have always understood that as synonymous with 'thumb drive' which plugs into a USB port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWAGON Posted May 25, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 You are right Gary, I did use that word "Flash Drive". And I guess I have used that term so long now that I just used it in my post too. Anyway, now I think you understand what I was trying to post about the new interior drives. I can't wait to try one !! Frank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 the use if "flash memory" to make a solid state media has been in use for many years, we even build PC's for business that have a IDE flash memory drives in them, as in a lot of places like rescue or EMT type jobs having a HDD that has platters spinning in them are not ideal, or for instance the likes of Power line company or off road repair people need to have a laptop or a PC with them to do their work. With the bouncing on the road movement can cause the drives to fail very fast (even with SBS capable drives with non head slap technologies) Here is the sort of thing I’m talking about... They plug into the normal IDE cable in a pc Transcend 4G IDE Flash Module, 40-Pin Vertical, Low Profile Fully compatible with devices and OS that support IDE standard (pitch=2.54mm) Built-in ECC function assures high reliability of data transfer Auto Sleep and Power-Down mode supported Write-Protect function supported LED indicates status of usage Specifications: Form Factor: 59.0mm x 27.3mm x 7.3mm (with housing) Op. Voltage: 3.3V / 5V Op. Temperature: 0°C to 85°C Durability: 1,000,000 program/erase cycles MTBF: 1,000,000 power-on hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 the use if "flash memory" to make a solid state media has been in use for many years, we even build PC's for business that have a IDE flash memory drives in them, as in a lot of places like rescue or EMT type jobs having a HDD that has platters spinning in them are not ideal, or for instance the likes of Power line company or off road repair people need to have a laptop or a PC with them to do their work. With the bouncing on the road movement can cause the drives to fail very fast (even with SBS capable drives with non head slap technologies) Here is the sort of thing I’m talking about... They plug into the normal IDE cable in a pc Transcend 4G IDE Flash Module, 40-Pin Vertical, Low Profile Fully compatible with devices and OS that support IDE standard (pitch=2.54mm) Built-in ECC function assures high reliability of data transfer Auto Sleep and Power-Down mode supported Write-Protect function supported LED indicates status of usage Specifications: Form Factor: 59.0mm x 27.3mm x 7.3mm (with housing) Op. Voltage: 3.3V / 5V Op. Temperature: 0°C to 85°C Durability: 1,000,000 program/erase cycles MTBF: 1,000,000 power-on hours Neil do you have clearance to leak this information? Sounds like something out of James Bond! I hope the folks get it, Neil. I don't want to read about the 'assumptions' again. cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 CD, No assumptions... these are real and in use... i have used them for at least the last year or so, i install win98 or small PC's, or if you need to make a Wise or linyx system they are ideal. cheaper than a harddrive, and you can run XP from them fine, i know they have bigger ones to , i just use the 4 gig ones.. Go look them up... you will see 90% of PC or system builders or PC parts sellers get them. NO james bond stuff here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDWAGON Posted May 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 I'm just waiting and watching to see if one of my local PC stores has one of those Samsung 120GB laptop flash memory drives in it so I can go play with it just to see if everything works as well as they claim. The latest I read is that Samsung has an 80, 100 and 120GB drives that will be out soon. I think it was named "WD80" drives. Frank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiadeep Posted May 30, 2007 Report Share Posted May 30, 2007 Really can't wait for those solid state hard drives to come out. Imagine how much faster they would be! Read somewhere that even the slowest Flash hard drives are much faster than todays bottle neck disk drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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