Rashid Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hello everyone, I just purchased a Pioneer DVD burner which came with Roxio easy creator version 8.2 XE. I am trying to create a bootable DVD which contains the Fedora 7 Installation. The ISO file is 2.7 GB. I created a DVD which only contains the ISO file and I clicked on the Bootable button before creating it. When I tried booting with that DVD, I got an Operating system error . What do I need to do to create this DVd and be able to boot with it. Thank you. Rashid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Usually Linux distro isos are bootable to begin with - you may have messed it up by trying to make it bootable again. Try making a new disc from the original download .iso file and see what happens. One thing to watch tho - some mother boards tend to hang on booting from DVD (the boot sectors takes longer to read than a CD) and they tend to time out and go to the next bootable section if it doesn't respond in time. That used to be a very common problem a few years back when even commercial bootable DVDs hung up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashid Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I reckon I create another DVD without making it bootable. I fear I may have done this in the past and it did not work, the same. Then I will have to deal with issues of boot read timining out. I will keep everyone posted about the results. Are there any other things to be aware of when trying to install Linux Fedora? This is a different topic. Thanks, Rashid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 What you can try (if you have a floppy drive) is Tom's rtbt (rootboot) - it's designed as a floppy emergenmcy, get you into the OS disk but it should also be able to let you kickstart the Fedora distro from CD http://www.toms.net/rb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I just downloaded Ubuntu's iso,burned it to a disc and it boots just fine.Although,the image was small enough to fit on a cd. If that image is bootable just use Disc Copier to make the disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 My thoughts exactly Terry - I've never even heard of a .iso distro that wasn't bootable (provided the mobo disn't time it out that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I was just reading up on Fedora's site and it looks like that image is bootable so you're absolutely correct.Disc Copier and that image and away they should be able to go. Of course your thoughts on booting from a DVD could come into play but the image should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashid Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Thank you all for your inputs. These are xecellent sugfgestions. How much luck have you had if you were to boot from a DVD? The Fedora 7 iso image that I have is 2.7 GB, so it won't fit on a CD. I know I can find it broken down to several CDs and try it that way, as well. Rashid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Thank you all for your inputs. These are xecellent sugfgestions. How much luck have you had if you were to boot from a DVD? The Fedora 7 iso image that I have is 2.7 GB, so it won't fit on a CD. I know I can find it broken down to several CDs and try it that way, as well. Rashid Creator Classic Choose Type of Bootable Disc This dialog box displays the properties for making a bootable disc: Use Existing Image File: Select to create a bootable disc from an existing image file. To use this feature you need a bootable image on your hard disk or on a network. Click Browse to search for your bootable image. Choose DVD 4.7 GB at the bottom for disc size. cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I have no problems with this mobo in booting from DVD - ones I had before timed out so I had to use rtbt to access them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 cd - you're missing the point. He's trying to make a bootable Fedora iso bootable (again) They're already bootable so making a bootable DVD from that sort of messes things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashid Posted June 19, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 I may need some help. Are you sure that I can create this DVD using the 'Copy Disk' function? Doesn't that usually point to the other CDrom drive to copy from? I am sorry, I should have the program in front of me to ask this. This popped in my mind as a possible problem. Thanks, Rashid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 right click on the .iso and open with Disc Copier - that's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdanteek Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 cd - you're missing the point. He's trying to make a bootable Fedora iso bootable (again) They're already bootable so making a bootable DVD from that sort of messes things up If that is what you read into the bolded above "message" (Post #9) you and I will continue to have a problem! To use this feature you need a bootable image on your hard disk "Good to hear from experienced/heavy users." cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 cd isn't missing any point, he's explaining how to burn a bootable ISO (Fedora) image with Creator Classic, to a bootable disc. Daithi is explaining how to do the same thing with Disc Copier. You both have the same object, Gentlemen, you're just using different methods to hit the same target. Regards, Brendon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 The OP's actual problem is he is trying to use the 'make bootable' option on a CD that has isolinux on it. That messes up the md5sums on the DVD and renders it useless (not only will it not boot but it will throw out error messages). The normal boot setup for Linux is totally different to anything else - it has to do a lot more things and any changes to the boot will screw that up. "Creator Classic Choose Type of Bootable Disc This dialog box displays the properties for making a bootable disc:" in this case is totally useless except for producing a coaster Before anyone says anything else - I dual boot with XP and Gentoo Linux Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendon Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 So, in Creator Classic, the "Bootable Disc" project builds a bootable disc, rather than burns one from a bootable ISO? So if doing it in Creator Classic, one would have to use the File > Burn from Disc Image File option instead? [And before anyone says anything else - I'm a black belt in Origami!! ] Do I have it right now, Dáithí ? Best regards, Brendon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 More or less Brendon - the actual problem at the start here wasn't the way to make a DVD bootable - but that he was trying to add a boot to an already bootable isolinux disc - not a good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Thank you all for your inputs. These are xecellent sugfgestions. How much luck have you had if you were to boot from a DVD? The Fedora 7 iso image that I have is 2.7 GB, so it won't fit on a CD. I know I can find it broken down to several CDs and try it that way, as well. Rashid As far as that question goes I can boot from DVD's no problem.I have an Intel motherboard in my machine and it works just fine.I booted Vista's install (which is a DVD) and also a streamed copy of XP that I put on a DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 It's more a problem with older boards Terry (failing to boot from DVD). Some were supposed to be able to but the BIOS timed out because it took longer to read the boot info from a DVD than a CD so it just gave up on it. Newer boards don't have that problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 I figured,I was just throwing my 2 cents worth in.....again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gi7omy Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 At least you're throwing tham and not loading them in a shotgun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Nah,I'm saving the shotgun for the "When is the patch coming" questions....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rashid Posted June 20, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Hello everyone, Last night I burned a DVD from the ISO image using Disc Copy and not choosing 'bootable' on the Roxio program. I rebooted on that DVD and guess what? It worked! The Fedora install took off like a breeze and went thru the whole setup. Now I have a second OS next to my Windows XP! I do need to learn more about Fedora's install. It takes priority over XP. Upon booting my computer, it gives me 2 seconds to hit a key and choose the XP instead of Linux. This is a separate topic, I understand. I was able to download the 64 bit version of Linux Fedora. It took me two days to complete the 3.5 GB download. I will burn a DVD from the the ISO image for the 64 bit using Roxio, and the Disc copy method I used last night, and do another install tonight to see if I can partition my Hard disk better with this install. I just built my new computer a week ago. I have the specs at the bottom. It should be able to handle the 64 bit OS. Thank you so much for all your wonderful help. Regards, Rashid *********************** EVGA Nvidia 680 SLI motherboard Intel Core 2 Duo, E6600, 4 MB cache 2 GB Patriot extreme RAM ASUS EN8600GT graphics board with 256 MB of DDR3 RAM Zalman CPU cooler 550W Antec power supply Pioneer 16x, R200, DL DVD burner Samsung 18x DVD burner 22" ViewSonic LCD *********************** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbrewst Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Nice system. I'm not that familiar with Linux but somewhere you should be able to adjust that 2 sec timer in the boot process.I know you can in Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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