What are people using for HD capture?

[vitop]

I am used to having one program do the whole thing from camera capture to authoring. I would not have bought DVDit if I knew it could not do capture. (or am I wrong here?)

 

What are people using to do the camera capture? I used imove on the mac, but it does not export in mpeg-2. The best results I have had are with Sorenson 3 and H.264.

 

I'd appreciate any input. Will this be added into DVDit?

[TomInIowa]

I am using Final Cut Pro to combine/edit video from 2 camcorders.

The video is captured from the hdmi port on the hd camcorder using the hardware card from BlackMagic Intensity and Final Cut.

 

After the editing is finished, I export the video using compressor to a mpeg2 file.

 

After that, everything is in DVDit Pro HD.

 

 

P.S. I don't think iMovie will reconized the BlackMagic card. I haven't tried capturing hd video using only the software that came with the BlackMagic Intensity card.

 

 

I am hoping that someday (in the not too distance future) DVD Studio (part of Final Cut Studio) will handle blu-ray movies.

[vitop]

vitop,

 

I'm curious as to what all-in-one software were you using before you got DVDit Pro??

 

john

 

Well this is my first HD stuff so the stuff I used before were the standard packages (I'm not a pro - the stuff I used was strictly home user stuff) like Pinnacle and Ulead. I used imovie quite a bit. It will do the capture and editing, menu creation, etc. everything but the burning for which I used to use Toast.

 

Final Cut Studio will do it all - even in HD if you want to burn to a DVD. No Blu Ray support.

 

For HD right now, I'm copying what Tom said he was doing. I'm capturing in Final Cut Studio 2, but doing it with the Black Magic board because I could only get 1440 X 1080 through the firewire.

 

Like I said, I'm not a pro so I like to just use one program. I don't need 2 or 3 specialized programs.

 

If I had my druthers, I'd probably prefer Final Cut Pro only because it is Mac based and I've learned to really like the Mac and it has more processing power than my most powerful PC.

[vitop]

I was afraid you were going to say that....

 

I ay have to give up on this. When exporting from Final Cut Pro, none of the chapter markers come through. Since the export from final cut is in MPEG 2, you can't really put the chapter markers where you would want in DVDit.

 

So I put alot of work editing it and starting to create menu layouts but unless I can get the chapter markers to come over it doesn't do me much good. I suppose I could break up the video stream into seperate clips and bring it in that way, but it sure is alot of work.

 

I amy give Adobe Premier a try, but I don't know how Blu-Ray player compliant that is.

[mmace]

I am used to having one program do the whole thing from camera capture to authoring. I would not have bought DVDit if I knew it could not do capture. (or am I wrong here?)

 

What are people using to do the camera capture? I used imove on the mac, but it does not export in mpeg-2. The best results I have had are with Sorenson 3 and H.264.

 

I'd appreciate any input. Will this be added into DVDit?

don't see why it should or would be included in DVDit as it's a DVD/Blu-ray authoring programme.

 

If you are talking about camcorder capture then I use HDVSplit as Premiere doesn't have scene splitting which is needed with long HDV otherwise the sound goes out of sync (a known Premiere bug)

 

other than that, I get my HD material from US satellite and cable boxes that have firewire outputs to connect to a PC (MPEG2 TS files but these pratically kill DVDit as it cannot handle them once split to m2v & AC3 or converted to a program stream)

[vitop]

Thanks, that was a big help. I'll let you know how things turn out.

 

Tom:

 

I'm going to go completely your route. I can't seem to get Final Cut Pro to capture at 1920 X 1080 via firwire. I am going to order one of the black magic boards and input via the HDMI and author in DVDit Pro HD.

 

This is a DVDit forum, but I would appreciate any setup issues/settings for Final Cut to properly set up the Black Magic Capture so I can finally get down to authoring!

[vitop]

I used the settings in "Legal MPEG-2 streams that pass throught DVDit Pro HD". There is a "Apple Compressor" setting. see "Roxio Community > Other Applications > DVDit Pro > DVDit Pro HD". I have not tried iMovie.

 

Tom:

 

In addition to the above question, I'd like to understand one more thing. Are you doing any editing in Final Cut at all? Building menus,etc.

 

Or do you just import the files into DVDit HD to build the menues, etc and then also do the output. It seems that it needs to all be done in DVDit because Final Cut does not conform to any Blu-ray staandards at this point.

[plee]

I am used to having one program do the whole thing from camera capture to authoring. I would not have bought DVDit if I knew it could not do capture. (or am I wrong here?)

 

What are people using to do the camera capture? I used imove on the mac, but it does not export in mpeg-2. The best results I have had are with Sorenson 3 and H.264.

 

I'd appreciate any input. Will this be added into DVDit?

 

Cyberlink software allows capture/author but it's BDAV so I don't know if you want that. I basically use Premiere Pro to edit/export my MPEG's (though probably not the best output, but it works) Have not tried the newer version Premiere Pro CS3 with blu-ray authoring, etc...

[TomInIowa]

I am on Mac OS X and the Sony camcorder has an hdmi video out connector.

I use BlackMagic Intensity with Final Cut Pro to capture HD video.

[vitop]

what are people using for HD capture?

 

Final Cut Pro 6.01 (the first service pack to 6.0) now will "log and transfer" avchd video from my Sony HDR-SR1 camcorder!

 

I think it will make the BlackMagic Intensity card unnecessary for me.

 

Tom:

 

Sorry, yet another question. The output I get is without audio. Do you have to encode the audio seperately?

[TomInIowa]

Tom:

 

Sorry, yet another question. The output I get is without audio. Do you have to encode the audio seperately?

 

 

I haven't tried a lot of settings, but all the ones I've tried for audio using compressor DON'T work in DVDit Pro HD. DVDit Pro will import them, but then the program dies trying to play the video/audio combination.

 

I have been using the QuickTime part of Final Cut to export wave files.

[vitop]

I haven't tried a lot of settings, but all the ones I've tried for audio using compressor DON'T work in DVDit Pro HD. DVDit Pro will import them, but then the program dies trying to play the video/audio combination.

 

I have been using the QuickTime part of Final Cut to export wave files.

 

I was afraid you were going to say that....

[BigMac]

vitop,

 

I'm curious as to what all-in-one software were you using before you got DVDit Pro??

 

john

[vitop]

I am on Mac OS X and the Sony camcorder has an hdmi video out connector.

I use BlackMagic Intensity with Final Cut Pro to capture HD video.

 

Can you tell me what settings you use to output the file from Final Cut pro into Dvdit?

 

I am having some issues with choppy video on all of the compression schemes I have tried under imovie. Sorenson 3 and H.264 are best but still choppy. But I have it on the very highest available rendering. 24,000 frames, etc.

 

I do have a dual processor mac pro with 16Gb of memory, so I don't know why it wouldn't be able to keep up, but maybe I'm just going for too high quality output. It is also taking me on the order of 20 hours to render 40GB of material. The 40GB is in imovie format. When I tried to output it uncompressed so I could feed it to DVDit that way, I ran out of room on a disk that had about 900GB open space. So it is a big file.

 

DVDit seems to do it's part, I'm just trying to get it something that it can work with.

[TomInIowa]

Can you tell me what settings you use to output the file from Final Cut pro into Dvdit?

 

I am having some issues with choppy video on all of the compression schemes I have tried under imovie. Sorenson 3 and H.264 are best but still choppy. But I have it on the very highest available rendering. 24,000 frames, etc.

 

I do have a dual processor mac pro with 16Gb of memory, so I don't know why it wouldn't be able to keep up, but maybe I'm just going for too high quality output. It is also taking me on the order of 20 hours to render 40GB of material. The 40GB is in imovie format. When I tried to output it uncompressed so I could feed it to DVDit that way, I ran out of room on a disk that had about 900GB open space. So it is a big file.

 

DVDit seems to do it's part, I'm just trying to get it something that it can work with.

 

I used the settings in "Legal MPEG-2 streams that pass throught DVDit Pro HD". There is a "Apple Compressor" setting. see "Roxio Community > Other Applications > DVDit Pro > DVDit Pro HD". I have not tried iMovie.

[TomInIowa]

what are people using for HD capture?

 

Final Cut Pro 6.01 (the first service pack to 6.0) now will "log and transfer" avchd video from my Sony HDR-SR1 camcorder!

 

I think it will make the BlackMagic Intensity card unnecessary for me.

[vitop]

I used the settings in "Legal MPEG-2 streams that pass throught DVDit Pro HD". There is a "Apple Compressor" setting. see "Roxio Community > Other Applications > DVDit Pro > DVDit Pro HD". I have not tried iMovie.

 

Thanks, that was a big help. I'll let you know how things turn out.