The Morons at Toast screwed up the span feature?

[kevss]

I just used span for first time. What great feature except idiots at Roxio screwed it up. Or Please tell me I'm wrong:

 

1) I see a see a hardrive icon on both DVDs. Roxio Restore. If I don't know what it is, then I'm going to get calls from every client about it as well.

2) the folder does not say, disc one of two. It says title.spanned. why?

3) The last file on disc one says .spanned, and does not open, same for disc 2. I now have to reburn a cd just for this one file?

 

Please tell me I screwed this up. thanks.

 

(actually I had to reboot computer, just to get this far) thanks

[kevss]

T

are you saying that if I uncheck that, then that annoying HD icon and restore thing then wont appear on the DVD's I span?

 

Well that would solve that. (any downsides to unchecking that?)

 

now more importantly:

It spanned a final file ruining the file. why did it do that? The was tons of space on the 2nd DVD.

 

I don't pay attention to anything. I'ts Toasts job to burn the last file properly, no???? (ie, if I'm letting it span 2 discs)

[tsantee]

T

are you saying that if I uncheck that, then that annoying HD icon and restore thing then wont appear on the DVD's I span?

 

Well that would solve that. (any downsides to unchecking that?)

 

now more importantly:

It spanned a final file ruining the file. why did it do that? The was tons of space on the 2nd DVD.

 

I don't pay attention to anything. I'ts Toasts job to burn the last file properly, no???? (ie, if I'm letting it span 2 discs)

DiscCatalogMaker and the Restore application burned to the DVD are entirely different. The Restore application is automatically created by Toast when a burn is going to require more than one disc. It is there as a convenience so that no matter who gets the disc they can easily search for what file is on what disc. Most importantly it enables joining files that have been split across multiple discs. In other words, the file you claim is ruined because it spanned across two discs will be restored by using the Restore application to copy and join the two parts on your hard drive. The Restore application does not appear when you burn just one disc.

 

DiscCatalogMaker never writes anything to a disc no matter what. Instead it creates a database file on your hard drive so you can easily search for what disc has what file. I just burned a photo disc for a client. I don't have a need to keep a database file of what's on that disc because I gave the disc to someone else. Therefore I unchecked the box that would have caused DiscCatalogMaker to create the database file. But when I'm going to keep the disc I want a file on the computer that tells me what is burned to what disc.

[kevss]

T:

thanks

I'm kind of lost on the restore application.

You are saying that you click restore and then you have all the 8 GB of images now? How does it do that? where does it grab the 8GB of files from?

 

(don't say my Hardrive because that won't help my clients out of state!)

 

 

But why would anyone want this? Disc span: isn't the whole point just to put files 1-500 on disc 1 (4GB) and files 501-100 on disc 2 (4GB) -- without me having to do any dragging or calculating? that's all I'd want from that feature. To get a confusing restore application I don't want, and then leaving me with the last file I now need to resotre and spend more time on to get -- I don't get it. Please inform me of the logic there.

 

(don't get the catalog maker -- bit over my head. For me Toast is just about getting files on disc, not making catalogs -- maybe I'll get that later)

[tsantee]

T:

thanks

I'm kind of lost on the restore application.

You are saying that you click restore and then you have all the 8 GB of images now? How does it do that? where does it grab the 8GB of files from?

 

(don't say my Hardrive because that won't help my clients out of state!)

But why would anyone want this? Disc span: isn't the whole point just to put files 1-500 on disc 1 (4GB) and files 501-100 on disc 2 (4GB) -- without me having to do any dragging or calculating? that's all I'd want from that feature. To get a confusing restore application I don't want, and then leaving me with the last file I now need to resotre and spend more time on to get -- I don't get it. Please inform me of the logic there.

The purpose of splitting files is so there isn't a bunch of wasted space on the disc. Let's say you've placed 3 GB of files ahead of an iMovie that is 2 GB. If the file wasn't split Toast would burn only the 3 GB on the first disc before asking you to insert a second disc; wasting more than 1 GB of available space. This may not be a big deal if the burn requires only 2 discs. But some people are spanning dozens of DVDs. Without the file splitting they would have a much larger stack of discs for the same amount of content. Restore lets you put the parts back together again from the discs onto your hard drive.

[kevss]

T:

I just want to have disc one have first 500 files, and disc 2 501 to 1000

 

What I have now is this annoying restore HD.

 

and worse, file 500 is not there on either disc

[tsantee]

T:

I just want to have disc one have first 500 files, and disc 2 501 to 1000

 

What I have now is this annoying restore HD.

 

and worse, file 500 is not there on either disc

The alternative is to add only enough files to the Data window that can fit on one disc. Burn that disc. Clear the window and add the next batch, naming it Disc 2 of __. In other words, do this the way it was done before the spanning feature was added. Toast will automatically catalog the content of each disc with Disk Catalog Maker so that is better than any previous version of Toast.

[kevss]

Well that what I did T. manaully adding files. What a pity no?

1) I can't get rid of the annoying HD restore thing?/crap

2) why did it span the last file ruining it?

 

"Toast will automatically catalog the content of each disc with Disk Catalog Maker so that is better than any previous version of Toast."

 

Did not understand any of that, what is that referring to/mean? thanks!

[tsantee]

Well that what I did T. manaully adding files. What a pity no?

1) I can't get rid of the annoying HD restore thing?/crap

2) why did it span the last file ruining it?

 

"Toast will automatically catalog the content of each disc with Disk Catalog Maker so that is better than any previous version of Toast."

 

Did not understand any of that, what is that referring to/mean? thanks!

There won't be a Restore application on a Data disc unless Toast is spanning data to multiple discs. The only reason I can think of that Toast spanned a file to a second disc is there wasn't room for it on the first one. I suggest keeping your content to less than 4.3 GB per disc although the maximum is 4.38 GB. At some point Toast decides it needs to make room for the Restore application which may have bumped that file to a second disc. But I'm just guessing and don't really know if that is what happened.

 

As for DiscCatalogMaker RE (I misspelled it before), it is a third-party application bundled with Toast 8. You can open it from inside the Toast folder or from the Toast Extras menu. It saves a database file on your hard drive that you can search to determine which burned disc has a specific file or folder you want to locate. It leaves nothing on the discs you burn. In the Advanced tab of the Recorder Settings menu you can turn off this feature by unchecking "Catalog Disc Contents (Mac formats only)".

[kevss]

I did not understand much of that, but I surmise that Toast is forcing very complex BS to make another group who is spanning many disc. what happened to less is more? can I get less? I don't need all that.

 

Such a nice featured screwed up.

[tsantee]

Pages 51-53 of Toast Help explains Disc Spanning and restore. The restore application makes it easy to find files and to join ones that are spanned across multiple discs.